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Chris F

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:27 pm
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:42:48 -0000, "The dog from that film you saw"
<dsb.RemoveThis@removethisbitbtinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"AirRaid" <airraidfighter.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
>> that area. Their tie ratio is 8:1
>> (8 games sold for every console sold).
>>
>>> Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of games
>>> sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest games.
>
>
>
>the UK top 10 is currently dominated by wii games week in week out - maybe
>it's new owners each week but i doubt the software companies care about
>that.

um, no it isn't.

in fact the only wii games in the current chart are Mario Kart and Wii
Fit...

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:35 pm
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In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 The alMIGHTY N <natlee75.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have to say that this is the first time I've heard of a Playstation
> 3 dying. I imagine I've watched many dozens of Blu-Ray movies, if not
> more, as well as several dozen DVDs and video files transferred to the
> hard drive without so much as a hiccup. Oh, and I have played a few
> games here and there. Wink

Well, maybe a bit much to say "died". The thing no longer recognizes
anything you stick in the drive, making it a bit useless for games and
movie playing Sad

Any idea what a new blu-ray drive costs for the PS3? I don't know if Sony
will still think this is under warranty or not.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:59 pm
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I own you on usenet
I own you on opa-ages / rei-rom forum
I own you everywhere I find you.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:13 am
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On Nov 13, 7:35 pm, Doug Jacobs <djac....TakeThisOut@rawbw.com> wrote:
> In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 The alMIGHTY N <natle....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have to say that this is the first time I've heard of a Playstation
> > 3 dying. I imagine I've watched many dozens of Blu-Ray movies, if not
> > more, as well as several dozen DVDs and video files transferred to the
> > hard drive without so much as a hiccup. Oh, and I have played a few
> > games here and there. Wink
>
> Well, maybe a bit much to say "died".  The thing no longer recognizes
> anything you stick in the drive, making it a bit useless for games and
> movie playing Sad
>
> Any idea what a new blu-ray drive costs for the PS3?  I don't know if Sony
> will still think this is under warranty or not.
>
Try calling them first, it may be a soft thing you can fix (like, you
know, hold the eject button for 3 seconds while you press the little
thingy under the PS3 symbol and flapping your ears 3 times).
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:15 am
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On Nov 13, 4:30 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 3:18 pm, AirRaid <airraidfigh... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
> > that area.  Their tie ratio is 8:1
> > (8 games sold for every console sold).
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2334414,00.asp
>
> The Wii is in second place and the PS3 is just behind it. However,
> WiiSports is included in the games used to come up with the attach
> rate so in reality the Wii is probably a bit behind the PS3.
>
> This just goes to show how important the install base is. The Wii
> makes up for the worst attach rate with sheer number of software
> purchases.
>
> > > Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of games
> > > sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest games.
>
The other point is that, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo
actually makes money with each Wii sold.
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The alMIGHTY N

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:03 am
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On Nov 13, 7:35 pm, Doug Jacobs <djac....TakeThisOut@rawbw.com> wrote:
> In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 The alMIGHTY N <natle....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have to say that this is the first time I've heard of a Playstation
> > 3 dying. I imagine I've watched many dozens of Blu-Ray movies, if not
> > more, as well as several dozen DVDs and video files transferred to the
> > hard drive without so much as a hiccup. Oh, and I have played a few
> > games here and there. Wink
>
> Well, maybe a bit much to say "died".  The thing no longer recognizes
> anything you stick in the drive, making it a bit useless for games and
> movie playing Sad
>
> Any idea what a new blu-ray drive costs for the PS3?  I don't know if Sony
> will still think this is under warranty or not.

You won't know until you ask... Very Happy
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The alMIGHTY N

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:11 am
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On Nov 13, 5:29 pm, Chris F <ch... RemoveThis @asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:42:48 -0000, "The dog from that film you saw"
>
>
>
>
>
> <d... RemoveThis @removethisbitbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >"AirRaid" <airraidfigh... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:df000f6b-df06-4b75-b2b9-b202a839e8a2@h23g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
>
> >> True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
> >> that area.  Their tie ratio is 8:1
> >> (8 games sold for every console sold).
>
> >>> Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of games
> >>> sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest games.
>
> >the UK top 10 is currently dominated by wii games week in week out - maybe
> >it's new owners each week but i doubt the software companies care about
> >that.
>
> um, no it isn't.
>
> in fact the only wii games in the current chart are Mario Kart and Wii
> Fit...

What chart are you using? I could have sworn I saw Wii Sports and Wii
Play on there as well. Wii Sports is there pretty much every week
since it comes with every console, and you can't really beat that
without, you know, actually taking a free game off the sales charts.
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The alMIGHTY N

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:12 am
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On Nov 14, 9:15 am, Wolfing <wolfi... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 4:30 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 13, 3:18 pm, AirRaid <airraidfigh... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
> > > that area.  Their tie ratio is 8:1
> > > (8 games sold for every console sold).
>
> >http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2334414,00.asp
>
> > The Wii is in second place and the PS3 is just behind it. However,
> > WiiSports is included in the games used to come up with the attach
> > rate so in reality the Wii is probably a bit behind the PS3.
>
> > This just goes to show how important the install base is. The Wii
> > makes up for the worst attach rate with sheer number of software
> > purchases.
>
> > > > Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of games
> > > > sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest games.
>
> The other point is that, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo
> actually makes money with each Wii sold.

Which I stated earlier in the thread. Wink
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:26 pm
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:15:33 -0800 (PST), Wolfing <wolfing1 DeleteThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 13, 4:30 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 13, 3:18 pm, AirRaid <airraidfigh... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
>> > that area.  Their tie ratio is 8:1
>> > (8 games sold for every console sold).
>>
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2334414,00.asp
>>
>> The Wii is in second place and the PS3 is just behind it. However,
>> WiiSports is included in the games used to come up with the attach
>> rate so in reality the Wii is probably a bit behind the PS3.
>>
>> This just goes to show how important the install base is. The Wii
>> makes up for the worst attach rate with sheer number of software
>> purchases.
>>
>> > > Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of games
>> > > sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest games.
>>
>The other point is that, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo
>actually makes money with each Wii sold.

so do microsoft now, on a per unit basis.

obviously this probably doesnt take into account the massive wedge
they set aside to deal with the RROD warranty extension
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:25 pm
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<snip>
>>
>> The Wii is in second place and the PS3 is just behind it. However,
>> WiiSports is included in the games used to come up with the attach
>> rate so in reality the Wii is probably a bit behind the PS3.

Sorry for being late to point this out, but Wii Sports IS NOT packed in in
Japan, but still sold over 3 million copies
(http://wii.ign.com/articles/878/878096p1.html)

The linked story says three million Wii Sports games sold, to an install
base of just over 6 million. Not too shabby.

<snip>
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:25 am
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"AirRaid" <airraid22.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's been two entire years since the release of PlayStation3.
>
> In the United States *and* worldwide overall, PS3 is still in 3rd
> place, thus last place, behind
> Xbox 360 and Wii.

Sony certainly messed up big time with the initial pricing of the PS3 - it's
still way too expensive compared with the other systems.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:25 pm
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:23:27 -0000, "Gareth"
<hotmail.com.TakeThisOut@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote:

>
>
>"AirRaid" <airraid22.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> It's been two entire years since the release of PlayStation3.
>>
>> In the United States *and* worldwide overall, PS3 is still in 3rd
>> place, thus last place, behind
>> Xbox 360 and Wii.
>
>Sony certainly messed up big time with the initial pricing of the PS3 - it's
>still way too expensive compared with the other systems.
>
>
while i agree, i can also see their problem as even with the high
price, they still lose a fair amount of money per unit, and that
doesnt look like changing any time soon.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:00 pm
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I had to return my Wii because I noticed that I started to look at
dudes fannies.


WHA?
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:44 pm
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Chris F wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:15:33 -0800 (PST), Wolfing <wolfing1 DeleteThis @gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 13, 4:30 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 13, 3:18 pm, AirRaid <airraidfigh... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
>>> > that area. Their tie ratio is 8:1
>>> > (8 games sold for every console sold).
>>>
>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2334414,00.asp
>>>
>>> The Wii is in second place and the PS3 is just behind it. However,
>>> WiiSports is included in the games used to come up with the attach
>>> rate so in reality the Wii is probably a bit behind the PS3.
>>>
>>> This just goes to show how important the install base is. The Wii
>>> makes up for the worst attach rate with sheer number of software
>>> purchases.
>>>
>>> > > Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of
>>> > > games sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest
>>> > > games.
>>>
>>The other point is that, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo
>>actually makes money with each Wii sold.
>
> so do microsoft now, on a per unit basis.

I wonder why I can go out and buy an eMachine with a fairly fast dual-core
cpu, a gig of ram, a 320 gig hdd and a dual-layer DVD for $300 bucks but M$
and Sony can't make a profit on what were $450 dollar consoles. Must be
some pretty expensive components in those boxes.

> obviously this probably doesnt take into account the massive wedge
> they set aside to deal with the RROD warranty extension.

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:14 am
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On Nov 14, 2:02 pm, Chris F <ch....RemoveThis@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:15:33 -0800 (PST), Wolfing <wolfi....RemoveThis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 13, 4:30 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 13, 3:18 pm, AirRaid <airraidfigh....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > True, and as far as games sold, Xbox 360 is clearly in first place in
> >> > that area.  Their tie ratio is 8:1
> >> > (8 games sold for every console sold).
>
> >>http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2334414,00.asp
>
> >> The Wii is in second place and the PS3 is just behind it. However,
> >> WiiSports is included in the games used to come up with the attach
> >> rate so in reality the Wii is probably a bit behind the PS3.
>
> >> This just goes to show how important the install base is. The Wii
> >> makes up for the worst attach rate with sheer number of software
> >> purchases.
>
> >> > > Console sales aren't the most important figure - the number of games
> >> > > sold is. For example, those who buy a Wii buy the fewest games.
>
> >The other point is that, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo
> >actually makes money with each Wii sold.
>
> so do microsoft now, on a per unit basis.

Of course, now that it's 3 years after the fact. Nintendo has been
making money hand over fist since day one. Nintendo will never lose
money on the sale of a particular unit.

> obviously this probably doesnt take into account the massive wedge
> they set aside to deal with the RROD warranty extension
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