No words...

Yesterday our guild master got this in the email... we all (the guild) just
have no words and don't know what to say about this.
No official reply from blizzard yet.


From: Blizzard Entertainment noreplyeu.TakeThisOut@blizzard.com
Sent: Wed 11 October 2006 20.27.15
To: <email>
Subject: Beta keys tournament


Dear costumer,
We acknowledged that you are the Guild Master of The New Dawn on the English
realm Ragnaros. We would like to congratulate with your guild for being the
first ever to be seen killing Razorgore the Untamed using the official
Blizzard designer tactic. We are proud to announce that we have entered you
in the competition that may award you 25 Beta keys for your Guild Members
that will grant you access to the Closed Beta server. In addition we will
mention your Guild Name in the next Blizzcon for your successful
achievement. We hope you will continue with these successes.

Best regards,
Blizzard Costumer Service.
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> No complains :p just wierd that noone tried this and a bit spooky that "WE
> ARE BEEING WATCHED!!!"

Oh, LOL, sorry
I already knew it, so it didn't surprise me too much

Yes, they do it Randomly, and not for EVERY SINGLE raid occurring,
but they do it

Maybe with the "best guilds", just to see if they are "cheating" of
what

So, next time, keep in mind that an "invisible GM" could be there with
you Pants on and be nice

Az
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My guild got the 25 invites "email" but without the BS reason behind
it. The top half dozen guilds or so of each faction on each server have
claimed to get the invites about a week or 10 days ago. Dunno what to
make of yours, especially since it says you've been entered in a
competition for the keys? Here's ours:

We would like to officially invite you and select members of your guild
to take part in the closed beta test for our upcoming expansion, World
of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade. If you would like to participate,
please respond to this email and include the name and email address of
25 other guild members whom you'd like to receive an invite.

Blizz can contact the GM probably by just checking the info associated
with account, same way they send you emails to let you know you've been
bad Our guys dont have keys yet, just Blizzcon folk and Blizz
friends/family types. I'll let you know if anything comes of it.


Shammy wrote:
> Yesterday our guild master got this in the email... we all (the guild) just
> have no words and don't know what to say about this.
> No official reply from blizzard yet.
>
>
> From: Blizzard Entertainment noreplyeu DeleteThis @blizzard.com
> Sent: Wed 11 October 2006 20.27.15
> To: <email>
> Subject: Beta keys tournament
>
>
> Dear costumer,
> We acknowledged that you are the Guild Master of The New Dawn on the English
> realm Ragnaros. We would like to congratulate with your guild for being the
> first ever to be seen killing Razorgore the Untamed using the official
> Blizzard designer tactic. We are proud to announce that we have entered you
> in the competition that may award you 25 Beta keys for your Guild Members
> that will grant you access to the Closed Beta server. In addition we will
> mention your Guild Name in the next Blizzcon for your successful
> achievement. We hope you will continue with these successes.
>
> Best regards,
> Blizzard Costumer Service.
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> we all (the guild) just have no words and don't know what to say about this.

Excuse me for my ignorance, but... WHY you have no words and don't know
what to say? What are you complaining about?
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Word from blue on the Blizzard is simply that they can spell, so this isn't
from them. That of course is a forum moderator rather than anything higher
up. But given how unbelievably unlikely and obviously false this is, I
think you'll have a hard time getting them to take you seriously enough to
bother with an official denial. I mean, to even consider doing this, they
would have to have a GM watching every Razorgore kill by every guild.
That's insane, straight off. Secondly, I note from the same forum that
other people have been using your tactic for more than a year now, so it's
bogus from the start anyway.

Could you post the headers of the email so we can have a look. I really
don't believe it, and my guess is it's someone from your guild winding you
up. Either that, or it's you winding us up, in which case I ain't biting.

Peter


Shammy wrote:
> Yesterday our guild master got this in the email... we all (the
> guild) just have no words and don't know what to say about this.
> No official reply from blizzard yet.
>
>
> From: Blizzard Entertainment noreplyeu.TakeThisOut@blizzard.com
> Sent: Wed 11 October 2006 20.27.15
> To: <email>
> Subject: Beta keys tournament
>
>
> Dear costumer,
> We acknowledged that you are the Guild Master of The New Dawn on the
> English realm Ragnaros. We would like to congratulate with your guild
> for being the first ever to be seen killing Razorgore the Untamed
> using the official Blizzard designer tactic. We are proud to announce
> that we have entered you in the competition that may award you 25
> Beta keys for your Guild Members that will grant you access to the
> Closed Beta server. In addition we will mention your Guild Name in
> the next Blizzcon for your successful achievement. We hope you will
> continue with these successes.
> Best regards,
> Blizzard Costumer Service.
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Urbin wrote:
> Peter Ellis wrote:
> >
> > Thinking about it - how would Blizzard know the
> > email address for your guild leader? It's not like
> > you register your email address with Blizzard, ever.
>
> Hm, don't you? It's been a while since I registered
> but I would have expected them to ask for an e-mail
> address... Also, I recall getting mail from them
> about something at least once.

I frequently get mail from them, usually regarding tickets I entered,
but ended up logging several hours later, before they'd gotten around
to answering them. >_<

--
Nik
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Shammy wrote:
>> I mean, to even consider doing this, they would have to have a GM
>> watching every Razorgore kill by every guild. That's insane,
>> straight off.
>
> Our thoughts too, but it's not that we went talking about it so only
> someone from the guild or blizzard who else...

That's why I said it's someone from your guild having a laugh. Thinking
about it - how would Blizzard know the email address for your guild leader?
It's not like you register your email address with Blizzard, ever. Or are
you suggesting they not only have GMs watching every kill, but then also go
out and do web searches to track down the leader of any guild they're
interested in?

Frankly, it's a bit stupid to even think this *might* be real.

>
>> Secondly, I note from the same forum that
>> other people have been using your tactic for more than a year now,
>> so it's bogus from the start anyway.
>
> We cleared the eggs on platforms, then we have done fireball volley
> and kited the mobs with razogore by jumping off the platforms where
> usually kiters(warriors+hunters) kite while healers healed him
> (razogore).

Hum, so people have even *less* to do? With the standard tactic, the
kiters, healers and orb controller have stuff to do, while the DPS stands
around and looks pretty. With yours, *only* the controller and healers do
stuff? How very... intriguing. Can't believe that's the designed tactic.

Peter
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>
> Excuse me for my ignorance, but... WHY you have no words and don't know
> what to say? What are you complaining about?
>

No complains :p just wierd that noone tried this and a bit spooky that "WE
ARE BEEING WATCHED!!!"
I mean you kill razogore and next day you find email from blizzard... no
words :p
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>I mean, to even consider doing this, they would have to have a GM watching
>every Razorgore kill by every guild. That's insane, straight off.

Our thoughts too, but it's not that we went talking about it so only someone
from the guild or blizzard who else...

>Secondly, I note from the same forum that
> other people have been using your tactic for more than a year now, so it's
> bogus from the start anyway.

We cleared the eggs on platforms, then we have done fireball volley and
kited the mobs with razogore by jumping off the platforms where usually
kiters(warriors+hunters) kite while healers healed him (razogore).

>
> Could you post the headers of the email so we can have a look. I really
> don't believe it, and my guess is it's someone from your guild winding you
> up. Either that, or it's you winding us up, in which case I ain't biting.
>

Can't post headers cause I didn't get the email but our GM but I saw the
screenshot of it too.
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Shammy wrote:
> "Peter Ellis" <pjie2.RemoveThis@cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:4p9gsgFhpv6dU1@individual.net...
>> Shammy wrote:
>>>> I mean, to even consider doing this, they would have to have a GM
>>>> watching every Razorgore kill by every guild. That's insane,
>>>> straight off.
>>> Our thoughts too, but it's not that we went talking about it so only
>>> someone from the guild or blizzard who else...
>> That's why I said it's someone from your guild having a laugh. Thinking
>> about it - how would Blizzard know the email address for your guild
>> leader? It's not like you register your email address with Blizzard, ever.
>> Or are you suggesting they not only have GMs watching every kill, but then
>> also go out and do web searches to track down the leader of any guild
>> they're interested in?
>
> We guessed many things too but how do you send an email with @blizzard.com
> extension that's the mistery at least for us.

That's trivial. Give me your email adress and you'll receive a mail from
George W. Bush, written by me

CU

René
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Shammy wrote:
>
> We guessed many things too but how do you send an email with
> @blizzard.com extension that's the mistery at least for us.

Trivially. I could send an email claiming to be "from" anyone in the
world - it's an arbitrary string. That's why you need to check the headers
to find out where it *really* came from.

Peter
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"Peter Ellis" <pjie2.DeleteThis@cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:4p9gsgFhpv6dU1@individual.net...
> Shammy wrote:
>>> I mean, to even consider doing this, they would have to have a GM
>>> watching every Razorgore kill by every guild. That's insane,
>>> straight off.
>>
>> Our thoughts too, but it's not that we went talking about it so only
>> someone from the guild or blizzard who else...
>
> That's why I said it's someone from your guild having a laugh. Thinking
> about it - how would Blizzard know the email address for your guild
> leader? It's not like you register your email address with Blizzard, ever.
> Or are you suggesting they not only have GMs watching every kill, but then
> also go out and do web searches to track down the leader of any guild
> they're interested in?

We guessed many things too but how do you send an email with @blizzard.com
extension that's the mistery at least for us.

>
> Frankly, it's a bit stupid to even think this *might* be real.
>

Dunno what to think :p

>
> Hum, so people have even *less* to do? With the standard tactic, the
> kiters, healers and orb controller have stuff to do, while the DPS stands
> around and looks pretty. With yours, *only* the controller and healers do
> stuff? How very... intriguing. Can't believe that's the designed tactic.
>

Well ppl are all but bored all must do their best to stop mobs from beating
up on razogore (frost nova, fear, piercing howl, frost traps ...)
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Urbin <urbin RemoveThis @dunmorogh.eu> writes:
>On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:58:55 +0100, Peter Ellis wrote:
>> Shammy wrote:
>> >> I mean, to even consider doing this, they would have to have a GM
>> >> watching every Razorgore kill by every guild. That's insane,
>> >> straight off.
>> >
>> > Our thoughts too, but it's not that we went talking about it so only
>> > someone from the guild or blizzard who else...
>>
>> That's why I said it's someone from your guild having a laugh. Thinking
>> about it - how would Blizzard know the email address for your guild leader?
>> It's not like you register your email address with Blizzard, ever.

>Hm, don't you? It's been a while since I registered but I would have
>expected them to ask for an e-mail address... Also, I recall getting mail
>from them about something at least once. Of course I could have fallen for
>some joker as well....

>This notwithstanding, I can't see them monitoring all Razorgore fights to
>see what tactic is being used...

Their servers appear to keep track of all client transactions
(at least for a while - GMs can look at what happened during
a trade, for example). I think it's quite possible they can
just play back all instance encounters if they need to. It
would certainly help them fix bugs with boss encounters, as
they could then reproduce them easily.

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Merlyn LeRoy
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