variable XP per quest?

I think it was burt RemoveThis @mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) that wrote
something like...

>Thottbot shows a range of XP that can be obtained for doing a quest. I
>thought this was because of the change in XP based on color, but others
>here swear I was drinking the wrong cool-aid and there ain't no such
>scale of XP experience.
>
>So what is Thottbot referring to in giving the range of XP for each
>quest? What would control the XP if not the color at the time of
>turning it in?

Once a quest goes gray, it can still give you xp I believe, but at a
vastly reduced amount. I think it used to scale as well so you'd get
more xp for completing a quest when it was red than you would when it
was green. That functionality was removed some patch ago as I recall.

So the range on thottbot is probably because of old data and/or people
doing gray quests.

I think.


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On Tue, 29 May 2007 03:24:32 GMT, Ashen Shugar wrote:
> I think it was burt.RemoveThis@mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) that wrote
> something like...
>
> >Thottbot shows a range of XP that can be obtained for doing a quest. I
> >thought this was because of the change in XP based on color, but others
> >here swear I was drinking the wrong cool-aid and there ain't no such
> >scale of XP experience.
> >
> >So what is Thottbot referring to in giving the range of XP for each
> >quest? What would control the XP if not the color at the time of
> >turning it in?
>
> Once a quest goes gray, it can still give you xp I believe, but at a
> vastly reduced amount. I think it used to scale as well so you'd get
> more xp for completing a quest when it was red than you would when it
> was green. That functionality was removed some patch ago as I recall.

Some claimed it was even the opposite: That red quests gave *less* XP. The
rationale being that it was a way to stop people from having high level
chars help them do quests that are too hard to gain lots of XP fast. I
neither know whether the claim nor the rationale was true.

To be honest, I never even bothered to analyse how much XP I get. It's just
something I get when handing in a quest together with some money and maybe
some gear.

Cheers
Urbin
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On May 28, 8:24 pm, deathsab....DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au (Ashen Shugar) wrote:
> I think it used to scale as well so you'd get
> more xp for completing a quest when it was red than you would when it
> was green. That functionality was removed some patch ago as I recall.

That makes sense. I do recall there used to be some
variance. Ie, I had some green quests and I checked
to see what XP/reward I'd get online to see if I
should drop them; then I'd notice I had less XP from
them on turnin than I expected. I haven't been
playing even a full year though, so it must have been
relatively recent (TBC maybe).

--
Darin Johnosn
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John Salerno wrote:
> It's got to be the color. Lower-end green quests give less XP. Red
> always gives the normal amount, though (and not more).

On the other hand, you lose only a few XP for doing a quest who has
recently (within 1-2 levels) turned green, compared to if you had done
it when it was still yellow.

There's a temptation, even for me sometimes, to just drop green quests,
but often that'd be a mistake.

--
Peter Knutsen
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John Salerno <johnjsal.DeleteThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Burt Johnson wrote:
>> Thottbot shows a range of XP that can be obtained for doing a quest. I
>> thought this was because of the change in XP based on color, but others
>> here swear I was drinking the wrong cool-aid and there ain't no such
>> scale of XP experience.

There isn't - the same quest gives the same amount of xp regardless
of whether it's red/orange/yellow or green. Once grey, it gives
about 10% of the xp.

If at a given level, you hand in a red quest and a green quest, the
red quest will yield more xp than the green one - but that's just
because it's a higher level quest. If you waited for the red quest
to go green and then handed it in, it'd still give you the same
amount of xp. (You can easily test this with alts in the starter
zone - alt 1, get some quests, do them and hand them in while
orange/yellow. Alt 2, get the same quests, do them, level up until
they are green, then hand em in. Same xp reward.)

>> So what is Thottbot referring to in giving the range of XP for each
>> quest? What would control the XP if not the color at the time of
>> turning it in?

I don't know why Thottbot gives an xp range because it's wrong to do
so - other sites don't. See wowhead.com for example, which just
gives the correct xp reward. Maybe thottbot is merging data from
untrustworthy sources or from test servers.

Dan
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That would explain my memory of such a variance too. I have always made
a point of turning in the lowest level quest first if I was close to a
level change. That way I would be sure to get the most points before it
went green.

I'm fairly sure I saw such a variance when I started, about 17 months
ago. Testing in the last week has confirmed that it doesn't seem to be
true now though...

Darin Johnson <darin RemoveThis @usa.net> wrote:

> On May 28, 8:24 pm, deathsab... RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au (Ashen Shugar) wrote:
> > I think it used to scale as well so you'd get
> > more xp for completing a quest when it was red than you would when it
> > was green. That functionality was removed some patch ago as I recall.
>
> That makes sense. I do recall there used to be some
> variance. Ie, I had some green quests and I checked
> to see what XP/reward I'd get online to see if I
> should drop them; then I'd notice I had less XP from
> them on turnin than I expected. I haven't been
> playing even a full year though, so it must have been
> relatively recent (TBC maybe).
>
> --
> Darin Johnosn


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In article <v5fo53hca47tletel79ub67k8csc3bvlfv DeleteThis @4ax.com>, Dan
<no.spam.here.invalid> says...
> John Salerno <johnjsal DeleteThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Burt Johnson wrote:
> >> Thottbot shows a range of XP that can be obtained for doing a quest. I
> >> thought this was because of the change in XP based on color, but others
> >> here swear I was drinking the wrong cool-aid and there ain't no such
> >> scale of XP experience.
>
> There isn't -

Well there was.
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