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Terry

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:20 pm
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Am I the only one having trouble finding stuff in my inventory?
Oblivion should have made more groups in the menus. I would love to
have a separate menu for just the things I have equipped. When I am
looking for a ring I should be able to only list rings.

One way to incorporate this in the game would be an option to have
menus that expand and contract. This would allow you to quickly find
things in your inventory but still allow you to see the whole list. I
would love to have groups for each body part of armor. This would
allow me to quickly change my armor for magic or protection

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rwgibson13

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:51 am
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Terry wrote:
> Am I the only one having trouble finding stuff in my inventory?
> Oblivion should have made more groups in the menus. I would love to
> have a separate menu for just the things I have equipped. When I am
> looking for a ring I should be able to only list rings.
>
> One way to incorporate this in the game would be an option to have
> menus that expand and contract. This would allow you to quickly find
> things in your inventory but still allow you to see the whole list. I
> would love to have groups for each body part of armor. This would
> allow me to quickly change my armor for magic or protection

Yeah, I'm not too crazy about the way they decided to group inventory
items inside the catagories either. Grouping armor and weapons by
alphabetical order? WTF? When every second or third silly weapon or
shield or magic arrow has a unique name, it can get really confusing
IMO.

RWG (I'm sure someone, somewhere has come up with a mod for this,
similar to the "key ring" mod)

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DeAnn

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:54 am
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>
> What I really hate though is when you get a weapon with soultrap and you
> have stocked up on soulgems, then begin hacking and slashing. Before you
> know it, your inventory is filled with soulgems and I find it hard to
> see which ones are used and which arent.. stupid really..

The soul gems also fill in a stupid order (tiny souls don't go into
tiny capacity gems first, but will go into a huge capacity gem
instead).

I figure either the human interface team did not stay around to take
any feedback from their playtesters to get some of the more irritating
aspects of the interface cleaned up or there wasn't any HI team and
they just used an interface from some 3D shooter (where inventory is
very small and limited so you don't need any ability to sort through it
or use it intelligently).

What ever happened to "mouse over"--so you could just mouse over a
little icon and get a nice clear, readable, detailed text on the icon?
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DeAnn

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:36 am
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>
> The sad thing is that it's much worse than Morrowind's interface, which
> demonstrates that it wasn't ignorance that led to this.
> --
> Greg Johnson

You can go a bit loopy trying to imagine a logical reason for ever
having made such a stupid decision (tiny inventory list showing with
big blocky icon in a game that is supposedly designed as visually
intensive)....or for staying with it once play testers tried it out.


And, sort by weight. Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. All the
time. Sort by weight. Or value. Has anybody ever sorted their
inventory by weight or value...other than to try it out?

The 3D engine may be more computationally intensive in Oblivion, but
the game as a whole is not really prettier. I found MW graphics
stunning. Every time I upgraded my video, I found them more stunning.
I'd walk around looking at the night sky. I'd carefully dress
characters and houses. I'd just enjoy looking at things.

Oblivion has its pretty parts. But, they aren't gasping awesome stop
and look pretty. And the inventory icons are abyssimal. I spent a lot
of time when I started trying to just figure out what those dopey
looking squiggly lines might be trying to represent. I think maybe the
funny squiggley loops you get when the cursor is over an object is
supposed to be a bag. Maybe. A bag is the best I've been able to
think of. The icons take up a huge part of the screen (compared to
MW), but are mystery little squiggles.
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Mikael_Schųler

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:29 am
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rwgibson13.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Terry wrote:
>
>>Am I the only one having trouble finding stuff in my inventory?
>>Oblivion should have made more groups in the menus. I would love to
>>have a separate menu for just the things I have equipped. When I am
>>looking for a ring I should be able to only list rings.
>>
>>One way to incorporate this in the game would be an option to have
>>menus that expand and contract. This would allow you to quickly find
>>things in your inventory but still allow you to see the whole list. I
>>would love to have groups for each body part of armor. This would
>>allow me to quickly change my armor for magic or protection
>
>
> Yeah, I'm not too crazy about the way they decided to group inventory
> items inside the catagories either. Grouping armor and weapons by
> alphabetical order? WTF? When every second or third silly weapon or
> shield or magic arrow has a unique name, it can get really confusing
> IMO.
>
> RWG (I'm sure someone, somewhere has come up with a mod for this,
> similar to the "key ring" mod)
>
well you can sort things by weight and armor class and value if you
want. just click at the top of each column.

What I really hate though is when you get a weapon with soultrap and you
have stocked up on soulgems, then begin hacking and slashing. Before you
know it, your inventory is filled with soulgems and I find it hard to
see which ones are used and which arent.. stupid really..
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Katy Mulvey

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:01 pm
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DeAnn wrote:
> And, sort by weight. Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. All the
> time. Sort by weight. Or value. Has anybody ever sorted their
> inventory by weight or value...other than to try it out?

Early on, I decided to go with one of the mods that lets you increase how
much you can carry -- in games like this, I'm a packrat, and running back
and forth to dungeons selling loot was not much fun.

So I have a lot of stuff. Sort by weight is useful to bring all the arrows
together. Sort by value is useful to bring charged soul gems together in
the list. It would be *more* useful if items grouped by type without having
to trick the UI, though.

K
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Greg Johnson

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:20 pm
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On 4 Jun 2006 02:54:59 -0700, "DeAnn" <DeAnn000.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> What I really hate though is when you get a weapon with soultrap and you
>> have stocked up on soulgems, then begin hacking and slashing. Before you
>> know it, your inventory is filled with soulgems and I find it hard to
>> see which ones are used and which arent.. stupid really..
>
>The soul gems also fill in a stupid order (tiny souls don't go into
>tiny capacity gems first, but will go into a huge capacity gem
>instead).
>
>I figure either the human interface team did not stay around to take
>any feedback from their playtesters to get some of the more irritating
>aspects of the interface cleaned up or there wasn't any HI team and
>they just used an interface from some 3D shooter (where inventory is
>very small and limited so you don't need any ability to sort through it
>or use it intelligently).
>
>What ever happened to "mouse over"--so you could just mouse over a
>little icon and get a nice clear, readable, detailed text on the icon?

The sad thing is that it's much worse than Morrowind's interface, which
demonstrates that it wasn't ignorance that led to this.
--
Greg Johnson
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Madame Mim

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:00 pm
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Yes. When I am halfway through a dungeon and overweighed so that I need to
figure out what to throw away.

--
MM

"I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not
dumb... and I also know that I'm not blonde."
Dolly Parton


"DeAnn" <DeAnn000 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>>
>> The sad thing is that it's much worse than Morrowind's interface, which
>> demonstrates that it wasn't ignorance that led to this.
>> --
>> Greg Johnson
>
> You can go a bit loopy trying to imagine a logical reason for ever
> having made such a stupid decision (tiny inventory list showing with
> big blocky icon in a game that is supposedly designed as visually
> intensive)....or for staying with it once play testers tried it out.
>
>
> And, sort by weight. Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. All the
> time. Sort by weight. Or value. Has anybody ever sorted their
> inventory by weight or value...other than to try it out?
>
> The 3D engine may be more computationally intensive in Oblivion, but
> the game as a whole is not really prettier. I found MW graphics
> stunning. Every time I upgraded my video, I found them more stunning.
> I'd walk around looking at the night sky. I'd carefully dress
> characters and houses. I'd just enjoy looking at things.
>
> Oblivion has its pretty parts. But, they aren't gasping awesome stop
> and look pretty. And the inventory icons are abyssimal. I spent a lot
> of time when I started trying to just figure out what those dopey
> looking squiggly lines might be trying to represent. I think maybe the
> funny squiggley loops you get when the cursor is over an object is
> supposed to be a bag. Maybe. A bag is the best I've been able to
> think of. The icons take up a huge part of the screen (compared to
> MW), but are mystery little squiggles.
>
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gray.wizard

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:52 am
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adm

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:07 am
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"DeAnn" <DeAnn000.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>>
>> The sad thing is that it's much worse than Morrowind's interface, which
>> demonstrates that it wasn't ignorance that led to this.
>> --
>> Greg Johnson
>
> You can go a bit loopy trying to imagine a logical reason for ever
> having made such a stupid decision (tiny inventory list showing with
> big blocky icon in a game that is supposedly designed as visually
> intensive)....or for staying with it once play testers tried it out.
>
>
> And, sort by weight. Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. All the
> time. Sort by weight. Or value. Has anybody ever sorted their
> inventory by weight or value...other than to try it out?


All the time - when deciding what to drop and what to keep.
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