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Since: Aug 29, 2007 Posts: 37
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:53 pm
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Since: Nov 19, 2004 Posts: 1382
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:53 pm
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In <fr98qt$qia$1@ss408.t-com.hr> "Monkeyboy" <seventh_mileMAKNI.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> writes:
> I need a macro that will cycle through targets (like ''tab'') but without
> targeting pets, minions and totems. Anyone know of any?
I don't know of any, no. But even if one did exist or you were to
write one yourself, it wouldn't be usable in combat. Blizzard redid
the macro system some time ago to disallow automated selection of
targets while in combat.
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Since: Nov 19, 2004 Posts: 1487
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:09 am
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On 13 Mar, 00:18, "22incher" <Rea....DeleteThis@spam.com> wrote:
> He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
> Macro and Ui forums.
It is making a decision for you and that is some level of automation.
You say target and it selects a target intelligently. I also think
that it can't be done but would like to be proved wrong as it could be
useful.
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Since: Apr 24, 2007 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:34 am
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On 13 Mar, 08:09, "steve.kaye" <nos... DeleteThis @giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 00:18, "22incher" <Rea... DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote:
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> > He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> > skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
> > Macro and Ui forums.
>
> It is making a decision for you and that is some level of automation.
> You say target and it selects a target intelligently. I also think
> that it can't be done but would like to be proved wrong as it could be
> useful.
>
> steve.kaye
Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
These macros effectivley allow one button to make a decision for you
on what to kill first.
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Since: Apr 19, 2007 Posts: 131
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:21 am
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On 13 Mar, 12:34, ImmortalCG <Immorta... RemoveThis @f2s.com> wrote:
> Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
> Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
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> These macros effectivley allow one button to make a decision for you
> on what to kill first.
No, they don't make decision for you what to kill first. The only
thing such macro does is allows you to help with targeting in a pre-
set sequence (e.g. chains first) - kill order is already determined
when writing such macro. They simplify things, but don't automate.
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Since: Jan 08, 2008 Posts: 134
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:24 am
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On Mar 13, 12:21 pm, Matt <mateusz.woj....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 12:34, ImmortalCG <Immorta....TakeThisOut@f2s.com> wrote:
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> > Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
> > Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
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> > These macros effectivley allow one button to make a decision for you
> > on what to kill first.
>
> No, they don't make decision for you what to kill first. The only
> thing suchmacrodoes is allows you to help withtargetingin a pre-
> set sequence (e.g. chains first) - kill order is already determined
> when writing suchmacro. They simplify things, but don't automate.
Well, if you knew what targets might be present in a particular fight,
you could make exactly the macro the OP was looking for.
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Since: Nov 19, 2004 Posts: 1487
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:35 am
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On 13 Mar, 14:24, gerryq <ger....TakeThisOut@indigo.ie> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 12:21 pm, Matt <mateusz.woj....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 13 Mar, 12:34, ImmortalCG <Immorta....TakeThisOut@f2s.com> wrote:
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> > > Hmm, so how would you classify the macros that "inteligently" target
> > > Illhoof, Kil'rek or Demon Chains in Karazhan.
>
> > > These macros effectivley allow one button to make a decision for you
> > > on what to kill first.
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> > No, they don't make decision for you what to kill first. The only
> > thing suchmacrodoes is allows you to help withtargetingin a pre-
> > set sequence (e.g. chains first) - kill order is already determined
> > when writing suchmacro. They simplify things, but don't automate.
>
> Well, if you knew what targets might be present in a particular fight,
> you could make exactly the macro the OP was looking for.
The world is too varied for that. How long do you spend fighting, for
example, the warlock types near Booty Bay for you to adjust this macro
before you fight them. It would be a lot of wasted time across the
levels.
Also, this macro would be more useful in PvP as you often want to
ignore the pet as it will despawn when the owner dies. Unfortunately,
it would be unworkable in PvP as player and pet names are too varied
and a player may have the same name as a pet.
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Since: Apr 19, 2007 Posts: 131
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:50 am
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On 13 Mar, 15:35, "steve.kaye" <nos....RemoveThis@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
> Also, this macro would be more useful in PvP as you often want to
> ignore the pet as it will despawn when the owner dies. Unfortunately,
> it would be unworkable in PvP as player and pet names are too varied
> and a player may have the same name as a pet.
Hunters in BGs/Arenas often name their pet after themselves or team
mate just for this purpose - to mess with targeting macros.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:18 am
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He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
Macro and Ui forums.
"John Gordon" <gordon DeleteThis @panix.com> wrote in message
news:fr9a8b$m0q$1@reader2.panix.com...
> In <fr98qt$qia$1@ss408.t-com.hr> "Monkeyboy" <seventh_mileMAKNI DeleteThis @yahoo.com>
> writes:
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>> I need a macro that will cycle through targets (like ''tab'') but without
>> targeting pets, minions and totems. Anyone know of any?
>
> I don't know of any, no. But even if one did exist or you were to
> write one yourself, it wouldn't be usable in combat. Blizzard redid
> the macro system some time ago to disallow automated selection of
> targets while in combat.
>
> --
> John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
> gordon DeleteThis @panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
> -- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:06 pm
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"22incher" <Really.RemoveThis@spam.com> writes:
>He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
>skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
>Macro and Ui forums.
No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *
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Since: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 4637
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:19 pm
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:50:39 -0700 (PDT), Matt <mateusz.wojcik DeleteThis @gmail.com>
wrote:
>On 13 Mar, 15:35, "steve.kaye" <nos... DeleteThis @giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
>> Also, this macro would be more useful in PvP as you often want to
>> ignore the pet as it will despawn when the owner dies. Unfortunately,
>> it would be unworkable in PvP as player and pet names are too varied
>> and a player may have the same name as a pet.
>
>Hunters in BGs/Arenas often name their pet after themselves or team
>mate just for this purpose - to mess with targeting macros.
One of my guildies has a hunter called Ravager (created long before TBC and
ravager beasts), I keep saying he should get a ravager pet and really
confuse people
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Since: Jan 12, 2005 Posts: 376
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:12 pm
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PV <pv+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:
> "22incher" <Really.DeleteThis@spam.com> writes:
>>He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
>>skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
>>Macro and Ui forums.
>
> No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *
On the other hand, it might be possible to have an addon that, after a
target is selected, and if that target met a particular criteria, issued a
subsequent next_target command, until it got a target it was happy with.
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Since: Nov 19, 2004 Posts: 1487
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:39 am
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On 11 May, 14:12, Rob Wynne <d....RemoveThis@america.net> wrote:
> PV <pv+use...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > "22incher" <Rea....RemoveThis@spam.com> writes:
> >>He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> >>skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
> >>Macro and Ui forums.
>
> > No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *
>
> On the other hand, it might be possible to have an addon that, after a
> target is selected, and if that target met a particular criteria, issued a
> subsequent next_target command, until it got a target it was happy with.
The targeting functions are not available to an addon whilst in combat
so you couldn't issue the target next command.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:30 am
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On Mar 13, 12:06 pm, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> "22incher" <Rea... RemoveThis @spam.com> writes:
> >He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> >skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
> >Macro and Ui forums.
>
> No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *
> --
> * PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
> like corkscrews.
But that isn't what was asked. I have a tab-target macro that targets
the nearest target to me (just like tab targeting will do for cycling
through targets) but then automatically turns on autoattack. I then
have this on my far right action bar and bound that button to tab.
There is no intelligence to it,since it acts just the same as default
tab-targeting, except it turns on my auto-attack so I don't have to
worry about having it on a separate button, and if I am rage / energy
starved (feral OTing ftw) I can still get some white attacks off >> Stay informed about: targeting macro |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:47 am
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On 12 May, 14:30, colemanj4 <colema....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 12:06 pm, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
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> > "22incher" <Rea....DeleteThis@spam.com> writes:
> > >He is not asking for automated system targetting, I believe he is asking to
> > >skip unnecessary targets, yes it is possible you better ask in WoW official
> > >Macro and Ui forums.
>
> > No, altering tab targeting selections is NOT possible. *
> > --
> > * PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
> > like corkscrews.
>
> But that isn't what was asked. I have a tab-target macro that targets
> the nearest target to me (just like tab targeting will do for cycling
> through targets) but then automatically turns on autoattack. I then
> have this on my far right action bar and bound that button to tab.
>
> There is no intelligence to it,since it acts just the same as default
> tab-targeting, except it turns on my auto-attack so I don't have to
> worry about having it on a separate button, and if I am rage / energy
> starved (feral OTing ftw) I can still get some white attacks off
There is no intelligence to your macro. It just targets the nearest
and attacks. What the OP asked for was a way to miss out targets that
he is not interested in. This requires some decision making on the
part of the macro or addon. It needs to decide if the current target
is the desired one and retarget if it is not.
Personally, I'd really like a way to tab target and miss the hunter
snake trap snakes. I always tab target and it really throws me off
when they drop the trap and then feign death making it difficult for
me to retarget. I know that I just need to learn to click target more
quickly but it's changing the way I've done it for as long as I've
played MMOs and it's a hard habit to break out of.
Thinking about it maybe I should /focus on the hunter and /target
focus when he feigns. I wonder if feign death clears the /focus in
the same way that real death would.
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