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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:11 am
Post subject: A tame ghost
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Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones. But the ghost
behaves in every way as if it were a pet, although I certainly
did nothing to tame it; my first real realization that it was
there, in fact, was the message "you displaced the ghost" (or
something very similar). There was a magic trap nearby, which I
hit just before finding the ghost, but I don't see off hand how
this could tame it.
Does anyone know what could have caused this, or is it just
something that happens, with a fair degree of rareness? (Given
the number of ghosts I've seen, it would have to be very, very
rare.)
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:25 am
Post subject: Re: A tame ghost [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jan 28, 3:11 pm, James <james.ka... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
> first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
> bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones. But the ghost
> behaves in every way as if it were a pet, although I certainly
> did nothing to tame it; my first real realization that it was
> there, in fact, was the message "you displaced the ghost" (or
> something very similar). There was a magic trap nearby, which I
> hit just before finding the ghost, but I don't see off hand how
> this could tame it.
>
> Does anyone know what could have caused this, or is it just
> something that happens, with a fair degree of rareness? (Given
> the number of ghosts I've seen, it would have to be very, very
> rare.)
When a magic trap gives the "You feel charismatic!" message, you gain
1 point of CHA and you tame every tameable monster adjacent to you.
It is not uncommon for a magic trap to blind the player and generate
dangerous monsters which kill the player within a turn or two. So the
trap is also likely to be the cause of the bones file. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:25 pm
Post subject: Re: A tame ghost [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2008-01-28, James wrote:
> Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
> first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
> bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones. But the ghost
> behaves in every way as if it were a pet, although I certainly
> did nothing to tame it; my first real realization that it was
> there, in fact, was the message "you displaced the ghost" (or
> something very similar). There was a magic trap nearby, which I
> hit just before finding the ghost, but I don't see off hand how
> this could tame it.
The "you feel charismatic" effect of a magic trap tames nearby monsters
(in addition to bumping your charisma up by one). You should be able to tell
wether a certain monster is tame with the farlook command.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:46 pm
Post subject: Re: A tame ghost [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> "James" <james.kanze DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ba27969b-ba32-4907-bcf4-e58a92c7fc3e@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
> first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
> bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones.
> Does anyone know what could have caused this, or is it just
> something that happens, with a fair degree of rareness? (Given
> the number of ghosts I've seen, it would have to be very, very
> rare.)
Maybe it was a polymorph trap, and your pet turned into a ghost. >> Stay informed about: A tame ghost |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: A tame ghost [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2008-01-28, Ohle Claussen <ohle.claussen.TakeThisOut@ds.mpg.de> wrote:
> On 2008-01-28, James wrote:
>> Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
>> first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
>> bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones. But the ghost
>> behaves in every way as if it were a pet, although I certainly
>> did nothing to tame it; my first real realization that it was
>> there, in fact, was the message "you displaced the ghost" (or
>> something very similar). There was a magic trap nearby, which I
>> hit just before finding the ghost, but I don't see off hand how
>> this could tame it.
>
> The "you feel charismatic" effect of a magic trap tames nearby monsters
> (in addition to bumping your charisma up by one). You should be able to tell
> wether a certain monster is tame with the farlook command.
>
IIRC, it also ignores the target's MR for purposes of checking vs. the saving
throw, so you can even tame high level critters like Archons and Ki-Rin.
Wait, I'll wizmode check...
Ok, the results were somewhat inconclusive. An adjacent seargent and nurse
went peaceful, 'cause they're human, and humans don't go tame. An adjacent
arch-lich *also* went peaceful. Maybe my recollections were wrong, I just
remember using magic traps when I had a pet Archon go peaceful on me.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:52 pm
Post subject: Re: A tame ghost [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:51:31 +0100, Justin Hiltscher
<justin RemoveThis @grover.goeshow.com> wrote:
> On 2008-01-28, Ohle Claussen <ohle.claussen RemoveThis @ds.mpg.de> wrote:
>> On 2008-01-28, James wrote:
>>> Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
>>> first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
>>> bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones. But the ghost
>>> behaves in every way as if it were a pet, although I certainly
>>> did nothing to tame it; my first real realization that it was
>>> there, in fact, was the message "you displaced the ghost" (or
>>> something very similar). There was a magic trap nearby, which I
>>> hit just before finding the ghost, but I don't see off hand how
>>> this could tame it.
>>
>> The "you feel charismatic" effect of a magic trap tames nearby monsters
>> (in addition to bumping your charisma up by one). You should be able to
>> tell
>> wether a certain monster is tame with the farlook command.
>>
> IIRC, it also ignores the target's MR for purposes of checking vs. the
> saving
> throw, so you can even tame high level critters like Archons and Ki-Rin.
> Wait, I'll wizmode check...
>
> Ok, the results were somewhat inconclusive. An adjacent seargent and
> nurse
> went peaceful, 'cause they're human, and humans don't go tame. An
> adjacent
> arch-lich *also* went peaceful. Maybe my recollections were wrong, I
> just
> remember using magic traps when I had a pet Archon go peaceful on me.
If I've read the spoilers correctly, Arch-liches can't be tamed because
they're covetous.
And magic traps ignore resistance.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:10 am
Post subject: Re: A tame ghost [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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AngleWyrm wrote:
[James had a tame ghost in Mines]
> Maybe it was a polymorph trap, and your pet turned into a ghost.
Aren't ghosts NOPOLY? (i.e. nothing can turn into one)
I go with the "magic trap made James feel charismatic" theory myself; it
happened to me once in the Valley of the Dead.
Raisse, killed by the ghost of Senthi
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Status of Raisse (piously neutral): Level 8 HP 63(67) AC -3, fast. >> Stay informed about: A tame ghost |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:30 am
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On Jan 28, 2:25 pm, notarealu....TakeThisOut@wireless.co.il wrote:
> On Jan 28, 3:11 pm, James <james.ka....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just curious, but this has never happened to me before. On the
> > first level of the mines, I encountered a ghost, with a little
> > bit of loot---in sum, what looks like a bones. But the ghost
> > behaves in every way as if it were a pet, although I certainly
> > did nothing to tame it; my first real realization that it was
> > there, in fact, was the message "you displaced the ghost" (or
> > something very similar). There was a magic trap nearby, which I
> > hit just before finding the ghost, but I don't see off hand how
> > this could tame it.
> > Does anyone know what could have caused this, or is it just
> > something that happens, with a fair degree of rareness?
> > (Given the number of ghosts I've seen, it would have to be
> > very, very rare.)
> When a magic trap gives the "You feel charismatic!" message,
> you gain 1 point of CHA and you tame every tameable monster
> adjacent to you.
> It is not uncommon for a magic trap to blind the player and
> generate dangerous monsters which kill the player within a
> turn or two. So the trap is also likely to be the cause of
> the bones file.
I think that's it. I didn't notice the you feel charismatic
message, but I easily could have missed it.
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