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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:52 pm
Post subject: seeking Champions 5 pbem game
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I am looking for a basic, fairly normal 5th edition Champions superhero
pbem game, preferably run on YahooGroups (YahooGroups just makes pbem
games so much easier to play). This seemed like a good place to look.
Now, you'd think this would be all there is to it -- "Hi there, I'm
looking for game -- anyone looking for players?"
Sadly, the control freaks, the fanboys, and the pervs appear to have
taken over pbem gaming, so I have to spell out what I'm looking for, and
what I'm not. I apologize for the length of this message, but I guess
it's better to get it out of the way up front so there are fewer
misunderstandings later.
What interests me:
* As a player in a supers game, I value cooperation and creativity.
* I like the opportunity to defend the innocent and rescue the endangered.
* I enjoy the occasional moral quandry or pyrrhic victory, but in the
long run I want to know that I am fighting the good fight.
* I like some mystery and horror thrown in from time to time to spice
things up, as long as the mysteries do eventually get (mostly) solved,
and the horrors eventually get (mostly) driven back.
What does not interest me:
* I am not interested in a game with as many house rules as there are
official rules -- two or three is okay, but more than that is just not
worth the hassle. Hero 5 has been playtested and bug-fixed six ways from
Sunday, and I think it's just fine. Stop fiddling with the trivia, and
let's play.
* I am not interested in games that require all of the players to play
established DC or Marvel (or Buffy, or Harry Potter) characters -- I do
not mind if they show up as NPCs, but I am not interested in a game
where we just ape someone else's characters.
* I am not interested in games that exist only to satisfy the GM's
desire for free internet porn -- I do not mind an adult situation now
and then, but if I want smut I know where to get it.
* I am not interested in games where the GM is a control freak who
imposes bizarre requirements on how the players format their posts,
whether that is mandatory past tense, mandatory first person, mandatory
"one asterisk means this but two slashes means that", or whatever -- I
am happy to tolerate just about anything from the other players, as long
as we are all having fun, but I am simply not interested in jumping
through inane hoops. For Pete's sake, it's a role-playing game, not a
novel or a technical manual -- stop micromanaging how players write
their posts, and let's get on with the game.
About me:
I have been role-playing for umpteen years, and I have been playing
Champions for most of that (in addition to White Wolf, D&D, and assorted
other games). I have played in numerous pbem games, and I have run more
than a few (mostly successfully). I truly appreciate how much work it
takes to be a good GM, particularly a good pbem GM. I think I am a good
player, and I make a genuine effort to get along with the other players
and make the GM's job easier. (You'd think this would go without saying,
wouldn't you? I wish that were the case.)
If you have an opening in your 5th edition Champions superhero pbem
game, or if you want someone to play an NPC for a while until a PC slot
opens up, drop me an email.
bblackmoor.TakeThisOut@blackgate.net
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:43 am
Post subject: Re: seeking Champions 5 pbem game [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor.TakeThisOut@blackgate.net> wrote in message
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> I am looking for a basic, fairly normal 5th edition Champions superhero
> pbem game, preferably run on YahooGroups (YahooGroups just makes pbem
> games so much easier to play). This seemed like a good place to look. . .
.. snip well articulated game description.
If you find such a game, I'd be interested in joining myself. I can't find
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:09 am
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David wrote:
> "Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor.DeleteThis@blackgate.net> wrote...
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> If you find such a game, I'd be interested in joining myself.
> I can't find any Champions players in my area.
Will do.
bblackmoor
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:42 pm
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 00:43:38 -0400, "David" <nospam RemoveThis @home.net> wrote:
>> I am looking for a basic, fairly normal 5th edition Champions superhero
>> pbem game, preferably run on YahooGroups (YahooGroups just makes pbem
>> games so much easier to play). This seemed like a good place to look. . .
>. snip well articulated game description.
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>If you find such a game, I'd be interested in joining myself. I can't find
>any Champions players in my area.
Me too! That sounds like it'd be a great game. Good luck finding it.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:16 pm
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Chuk Goodin wrote:
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> That sounds like it'd be a great game. Good luck finding it.
I am close to giving up, actually. I have been looking for months now
for just a normal Champions pbem game run by a sane, reasonable GM. Do
they just not exist anymore? It doesn't seem like this should be so much
to ask. I feel like Taylor at the end of Planent Of The Apes.
bblackmoor
2004-06-11 >> Stay informed about: seeking Champions 5 pbem game |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:18 pm
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:16, Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor RemoveThis @blackgate.net> wrote:
>Chuk Goodin wrote:
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>> That sounds like it'd be a great game. Good luck finding it.
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>I am close to giving up, actually. I have been looking for months now
>for just a normal Champions pbem game run by a sane, reasonable GM. Do
>they just not exist anymore? It doesn't seem like this should be so much
>to ask. I feel like Taylor at the end of Planent Of The Apes.
Is web based out of the question? Apparently Hero Central has a fair few
that might be open.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:18 pm
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Chuk Goodin wrote:
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> Is web based out of the question? Apparently Hero
> Central has a fair few that might be open.
I travel a lot, and although I can check email just about anywhere
(thanks to Palm, Bluetooth, and T-Mobile), surfing the web is less
convenient.
I'll check it out though. Do you have URL for it?
bblackmoor
2004-06-11 >> Stay informed about: seeking Champions 5 pbem game |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:32 am
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:16:30 -0400, Brandon Blackmoor
<bblackmoor.RemoveThis@blackgate.net> wrote:
>Chuk Goodin wrote:
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>> That sounds like it'd be a great game. Good luck finding it.
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>I am close to giving up, actually. I have been looking for months now
>for just a normal Champions pbem game run by a sane, reasonable GM. Do
>they just not exist anymore? It doesn't seem like this should be so much
>to ask. I feel like Taylor at the end of Planent Of The Apes.
Personally, Champs just doesn't sound like a system I'd use for
running a PBEM from my past experiences running them years ago. >> Stay informed about: seeking Champions 5 pbem game |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:47 am
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:16:30 -0400, Brandon Blackmoor
<bblackmoor.RemoveThis@blackgate.net> wrote:
>Chuk Goodin wrote:
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>> That sounds like it'd be a great game. Good luck finding it.
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>I am close to giving up, actually. I have been looking for months now
>for just a normal Champions pbem game run by a sane, reasonable GM. Do
>they just not exist anymore? It doesn't seem like this should be so much
>to ask. I feel like Taylor at the end of Planent Of The Apes.
>bblackmoor
>2004-06-11
I guess it also depends on how strongly you feel about some of your
requirements. For example, you hate having to deal with House Rules.
If it's a choice between (A) a game with a number of House Rules or
(B) having no game, how strongly do you really feel about that?
The same goes for your other requirements. I don't recall offhand
your complete list of requirements, I just remember reading it and
thinking that you wouldn't be interested in the place I'm playing
because it didn't meet your requirements in more than one regard. But
if you have found that you can't get what you want, you may have to
decide if you're willing to go with a less-than-perfect situation. >> Stay informed about: seeking Champions 5 pbem game |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:05 am
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Harold Groot wrote:
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> I guess it also depends on how strongly you feel about some of your
> requirements.
I only have three, really, and they all boil down to "just a normal
Champions game". No smut, no nit-picking control freaks, and I want to
create my own character. Maybe that's too much to ask. Wayne thinks
Champions isn't best suited to pbem. Maybe all of the reasonable GMs
agree with him. :/
bblackmoor
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:00 pm
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 04:05:04 -0400, Brandon Blackmoor
<bblackmoor RemoveThis @spamcop.net> wrote:
>create my own character. Maybe that's too much to ask. Wayne thinks
>Champions isn't best suited to pbem. Maybe all of the reasonable GMs
>agree with him. :/
The problem is that one Champ's virtues--it's detailed, player-control
combat system--is an active deficit in PBEM; it essentially gets in
the way. At that point the only reason you're using Champs is because
you want it's other big one--it's detailed character creation. And
I'm not sure that's normally a good enough reason. >> Stay informed about: seeking Champions 5 pbem game |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:11 am
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Wayne Shaw wrote:
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> At that point the only reason you're using Champs
> is because you want it's other big one -- it's detailed
> character creation. And I'm not sure that's normally a
> good enough reason.
You're probably right. I will re-think what it is I actually want from a
pbem game.
bblackmoor
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:35 pm
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"Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor.TakeThisOut@blackgate.net> wrote in message
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[snip requirements]
If I could figure out *how* you run a pbem game, I'd run one myself. And it
would be pretty close to your requirements (except I'm still using Champions
4th edition and don't really want to learn a whole new set of rules at the
moment).
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Heroes: www.heroes.force9.co.uk/scripts/
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:35 pm
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David Meadows wrote:
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> If I could figure out *how* you run a pbem
> game, I'd run one myself.
It's a lot of work; much more than a face-to-face game, in my opinion. I
have run more than a few (mostly successfully), and I don't think I'll
run one again any time soon.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:43 pm
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:46:40 -0400, Brandon Blackmoor
<bblackmoor.RemoveThis@spamcop.net> wrote:
>David Meadows wrote:
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>> If I could figure out *how* you run a pbem
> > game, I'd run one myself.
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>It's a lot of work; much more than a face-to-face game, in my opinion. I
>have run more than a few (mostly successfully), and I don't think I'll
>run one again any time soon.
Same here. I've run at least three over the years, and frankly, never
thought they were worth the trouble. Of course part of the problem is
people flaking, but even with everyone responding promptly it's a huge
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