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James Coupe

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:16 pm
Post subject: (ruling) Powerbase: Tshwane, Eccentric Billionaire etc. with Concealed Weapon
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A question came up on IRC regarding whether or not you could use cards
such as Powerbase: Tshwane and Eccentric Billionaire to affect the cost
of cards not played in the normal fashion, such as with Concealed
Weapon. In particular, this was in the light of the 7/7/7 ruling:

All cost-affecting cards operate no matter how the card is
played ("as normal" or otherwise). All multiplication and
division is handled first, followed by addition and subtraction.

Obviously, this affects "always on" cards, like Black Cat, but it wasn't
clear whether Powerbase: Tshwane or Eccentric Billionaire would be
affected, because they're both "tap to..." effects. Similarly Baldesar
can optionally reduce the cost of one card (with no tap).

<LSJ> I guess so, sure. Tshwane is OK for CW.
<Jozxyqk> ooh
<Jozxyqk> so with black cat + tshwane, you can conceal an ak47
<Dorrinal> That also extends to Billionaires, I guess?
<LSJ> Yeah

If you play with Josh Feuerstein, please expect him to be abusing Black
Cat and cost reducers to bring out expensive weapons.

You have been warned.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:16 pm
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James Coupe <james.RemoveThis@zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
> If you play with Josh Feuerstein, please expect him to be abusing Black
> Cat and cost reducers to bring out expensive weapons.

Except that when I explained this on the vtesboston mailing list,
I used terrible examples that were actually full of cheating.

And if you're playing with me, you can't really ever know what to
expect. Razz

Josh
...except maybe a VP if you are my predator

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:26 pm
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In message <oauGLTFpXNmHFwjb RemoveThis @gratiano.zephyr.org.uk>, James Coupe
<james RemoveThis @zephyr.org.uk> writes:
> <Jozxyqk> so with black cat + tshwane, you can conceal an ak47

Because Josh is a KNOWN CHEATER, this doesn't work.

<Jozxyqk> baldesar + tshwane + jennifer flame61 + concealed ak47
<Jozxyqk> giovanni laibon imbued gun deck

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