Now I know why adventure games are not very popular

"Zeza" <desiree(nospam)@email.t-com.hr> wrote in message
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> In GK3 when you typed GK4 in Sydney it said something about ghosts.

I never thought of doing that in GK3. When I next re-play it, I will
type GK 4 in Sydney.

>When
> someone asked Jane Jensen if there were plans to make GK4 she said:
"Yes,
> you can see in the ending of GK3 that there were plans for a sequel.
If I
> had thought "this is the last" I would have tried to wrap things up
more
> neatly. And yes, my plans for GK4 at that time involved ghosts and was
to be
> set in England."

And I bet it would have been great. Wouldn't it be great if Jane was
allowed to make GK4 some day. I wonder why Sierra wouldn't allow her to
make GK4. It would have been successful.

> I feel like crying .....

Yeah, its too bad.

Mary

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> >
> > Mary wrote:
> >> <macross3.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:1141144847.997708.310640@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > Mary wrote:
> >> > > > Yes, it was much better in that way. I liked the story in
GK3.Some
> >> > > > people didn't like Tim Curry as Gabriel Knight in GK3, but I
> >> thought
> >> > he
> >> > > > was fine. I liked all the acting. The game was a bit slow
moving
> >> at
> >> > > > times. That was about the only thing I didn't like. I liked
the
> >> > acting
> >> > > > in GK2 the best in that series. I liked the videos and the
tour of
> >> > > > Ludwig's castle. Some games such as that are very educational
as
> >> the
> >> > > > castle really exists and so does Wagners museum and the
streets in
> >> > > > Munich and other areas around Munic in the game.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Yeah, it's definitely something I'd see if I went to Germany
> >> someday.
> >> > > Rennes-Le-Chateau was Jensen letting her fans in on a little
secret
> >> in
> >> > > France (at the time), and apparently it's an accurate depiction
of
> >> the
> >> > > real life area as well. Of course, with The Da Vinci Code
hogging
> >> the
> >> > > glory, everyone in America wants to go see Rennes Le Chateau
now.
> >>
> >> Too bad there wasn't a GK4. I would have loved to see one. Jane
Jensen
> >> created some great games, especially the GK series. A very talented
> >> woman.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Apparently Sierra still holds the rights to the series but they
don't
> > want to make anymore. I know Jensen wanted to make a number 4,
because
> > she definitely didn't intend to end the series like THAT...
> >
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Now I know why adventure games are not very popular 

I belive Sierra doesn't belive adventure games are profitable. Maybe they
will change their mind as adventure games are slowly coming back. Success of
Syberia, Fahrenheit, The longest journey... might make them change their
mind.
Let's keep our fingers crossed. And let's hope, if they do decide to make
adventure games, they will involve the right people to make them, like Jane
Jensen and Roberta Williams.
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> "Zeza" <desiree(nospam)@email.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> news:du6v1b$6ma$1@ss405.t-com.hr...
>> In GK3 when you typed GK4 in Sydney it said something about ghosts.
>
> I never thought of doing that in GK3. When I next re-play it, I will
> type GK 4 in Sydney.
>
>>When
>> someone asked Jane Jensen if there were plans to make GK4 she said:
> "Yes,
>> you can see in the ending of GK3 that there were plans for a sequel.
> If I
>> had thought "this is the last" I would have tried to wrap things up
> more
>> neatly. And yes, my plans for GK4 at that time involved ghosts and was
> to be
>> set in England."
>
> And I bet it would have been great. Wouldn't it be great if Jane was
> allowed to make GK4 some day. I wonder why Sierra wouldn't allow her to
> make GK4. It would have been successful.
>
>> I feel like crying .....
>
> Yeah, its too bad.
>
> Mary
>
>> <macross3 DeleteThis @excite.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj
>> grupi:1141218186.017325.54750@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Mary wrote:
>> >> <macross3 DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:1141144847.997708.310640@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mary wrote:
>> >> > > > Yes, it was much better in that way. I liked the story in
> GK3.Some
>> >> > > > people didn't like Tim Curry as Gabriel Knight in GK3, but I
>> >> thought
>> >> > he
>> >> > > > was fine. I liked all the acting. The game was a bit slow
> moving
>> >> at
>> >> > > > times. That was about the only thing I didn't like. I liked
> the
>> >> > acting
>> >> > > > in GK2 the best in that series. I liked the videos and the
> tour of
>> >> > > > Ludwig's castle. Some games such as that are very educational
> as
>> >> the
>> >> > > > castle really exists and so does Wagners museum and the
> streets in
>> >> > > > Munich and other areas around Munic in the game.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yeah, it's definitely something I'd see if I went to Germany
>> >> someday.
>> >> > > Rennes-Le-Chateau was Jensen letting her fans in on a little
> secret
>> >> in
>> >> > > France (at the time), and apparently it's an accurate depiction
> of
>> >> the
>> >> > > real life area as well. Of course, with The Da Vinci Code
> hogging
>> >> the
>> >> > > glory, everyone in America wants to go see Rennes Le Chateau
> now.
>> >>
>> >> Too bad there wasn't a GK4. I would have loved to see one. Jane
> Jensen
>> >> created some great games, especially the GK series. A very talented
>> >> woman.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Apparently Sierra still holds the rights to the series but they
> don't
>> > want to make anymore. I know Jensen wanted to make a number 4,
> because
>> > she definitely didn't intend to end the series like THAT...
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Now I know why adventure games are not very popular 

"Zeza" <desiree(nospam)@email.t-com.hr> wrote in message
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> I belive Sierra doesn't belive adventure games are profitable. Maybe
they
> will change their mind as adventure games are slowly coming back.
Success of
> Syberia, Fahrenheit, The longest journey... might make them change
their
> mind.
> Let's keep our fingers crossed. And let's hope, if they do decide to
make
> adventure games, they will involve the right people to make them, like
Jane
> Jensen and Roberta Williams.

I completely agree with you on all your points. We can always hope

Mary

> "Mary" <no.RemoveThis@japamjunk.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj
> grupi:du7cil$o05$1@emma.aioe.org...
> > "Zeza" <desiree(nospam)@email.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> > news:du6v1b$6ma$1@ss405.t-com.hr...
> >> In GK3 when you typed GK4 in Sydney it said something about ghosts.
> >
> > I never thought of doing that in GK3. When I next re-play it, I will
> > type GK 4 in Sydney.
> >
> >>When
> >> someone asked Jane Jensen if there were plans to make GK4 she said:
> > "Yes,
> >> you can see in the ending of GK3 that there were plans for a
sequel.
> > If I
> >> had thought "this is the last" I would have tried to wrap things up
> > more
> >> neatly. And yes, my plans for GK4 at that time involved ghosts and
was
> > to be
> >> set in England."
> >
> > And I bet it would have been great. Wouldn't it be great if Jane was
> > allowed to make GK4 some day. I wonder why Sierra wouldn't allow her
to
> > make GK4. It would have been successful.
> >
> >> I feel like crying .....
> >
> > Yeah, its too bad.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >> <macross3.RemoveThis@excite.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj
> >> grupi:1141218186.017325.54750@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Mary wrote:
> >> >> <macross3.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:1141144847.997708.310640@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Mary wrote:
> >> >> > > > Yes, it was much better in that way. I liked the story in
> > GK3.Some
> >> >> > > > people didn't like Tim Curry as Gabriel Knight in GK3, but
I
> >> >> thought
> >> >> > he
> >> >> > > > was fine. I liked all the acting. The game was a bit slow
> > moving
> >> >> at
> >> >> > > > times. That was about the only thing I didn't like. I
liked
> > the
> >> >> > acting
> >> >> > > > in GK2 the best in that series. I liked the videos and the
> > tour of
> >> >> > > > Ludwig's castle. Some games such as that are very
educational
> > as
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > > castle really exists and so does Wagners museum and the
> > streets in
> >> >> > > > Munich and other areas around Munic in the game.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Yeah, it's definitely something I'd see if I went to Germany
> >> >> someday.
> >> >> > > Rennes-Le-Chateau was Jensen letting her fans in on a little
> > secret
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > France (at the time), and apparently it's an accurate
depiction
> > of
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > real life area as well. Of course, with The Da Vinci Code
> > hogging
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > glory, everyone in America wants to go see Rennes Le Chateau
> > now.
> >> >>
> >> >> Too bad there wasn't a GK4. I would have loved to see one. Jane
> > Jensen
> >> >> created some great games, especially the GK series. A very
talented
> >> >> woman.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Apparently Sierra still holds the rights to the series but they
> > don't
> >> > want to make anymore. I know Jensen wanted to make a number 4,
> > because
> >> > she definitely didn't intend to end the series like THAT...
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Now I know why adventure games are not very popular 

Robert Gault wrote:

> Maybe the problem is that you would prefer use your reflexes and shoot
> targets rather than your brain. I'd bet you don't enjoy reading books
> either.

Haha...this is the response I was expecting - I shoulda' been a troll. I
play every genre of game known to man. Wargames, strategy games, flight
sims, tactical sims, racing sims, RPG's, sports games, even simple
action games. The problem with adventure games in general is that the
puzzles are usually just gibberish that any monkey can come up with and
moving your mouse to every possible place on the screen to find a hot
spot is just annoying. Very annoying!

As for books, I like, and have read, Camus, Sartre, Hesse, Hardy, J.G.
Ballard, Dostoyevski, Gide, Turgenev... etc...etc. How about you?
 >> Stay informed about: Now I know why adventure games are not very popular 

"Peasant" <poor DeleteThis @peasant.here> wrote in message
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> Robert Gault wrote:
>
>> Maybe the problem is that you would prefer use your reflexes and shoot
>> targets rather than your brain. I'd bet you don't enjoy reading books
>> either.
>
> Haha...this is the response I was expecting - I shoulda' been a troll.

Good news, then...you are a troll.

I
> play every genre of game known to man. Wargames, strategy games, flight
> sims, tactical sims, racing sims, RPG's, sports games, even simple action
> games. The problem with adventure games in general is that the puzzles are
> usually just gibberish that any monkey can come up with and moving your
> mouse to every possible place on the screen to find a hot spot is just
> annoying. Very annoying!

You haven't gotten more than 5 minutes into the game, have you? Clicking
randomly on hotspots won't solve anything.

turk
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United States would be welcomed in Iraq as liberators, NBC Nightly News
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 >> Stay informed about: Now I know why adventure games are not very popular 

turk wrote:

> You haven't gotten more than 5 minutes into the game, have you? Clicking
> randomly on hotspots won't solve anything.
>
> turk

I played it long enough to get a good idea of what the game is like. I'm
as far as the factory and have supplied the robot with legs.
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Well, this started as a topic about Cyberia and it turned into chat about other games but back into the topic (because I do not like being picky) I will say what I remember about that game.

Me and my ex got into playing the game when he bought the IBM Aptiva (bundle) that had the series of problems with MWAVE. I saw the game, it looked entertaining. It took a while to figure out how to avoid the explosion; it was pain to figure out. Both my ex and I took a couple of days to figure out how to avoid it. Sadly after we solved that puzzle the computer experienced a series of problems that prevented us to go any further.

The game looked good, it was very challenging and I can assure you if it wasn't for the problems with the Aptiva A40 we would have completed it. That bit that I played on it wasn't bad at all. If it had been a demo I would have bought the game.

The truth is I LOVE games like this. I hate to watch movies, I rather have a roll in it. Do not like to be part of something that I can't control. Since movies take unpredictable endings I rather control some of the things that happen and that's why comparing games like this to an experience [like] a movie is not quite hitting the nail on the head.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/cyberia/reviews/reviewerId,3250/

However, and I know this thread is quite old. My question is; are you reviewing a game that you finished? Or is this a game you just can't figure out? Overly easy games to solve are not entertaining, but overly hard games to solve call for lack of interest in my part. A hint book is the best way to deal with those, but some games not even. Such is the case with Riven (the Myst sequel) which I never passed. That game I just couldn't figure out even with hints and walk-through. That's worse than a game in which you have to look for hot spots on the screen to click on.

I am a fan of the Zork series and they were indeed very entertaining. Hard to figure out but with a small hint help, you could go places. In conclusion, puzzle solving is not for everyone. Some people prefer the blood shedding, shooting fast moving games like my current husband who likes games like Half-Life 2. He assured me one day "the puzzles in half life are so hard that you wont be able to pass it" then guess what, a month later I had passed Half-Life 2. No walkthrough. Ask a Zork literate person to play Half-Life 2 and while our reflexes are not too strong, the puzzles are basically a breeze. (BTW I give HL2 a 4/5 just because bloody games are not my thing). You don't like Cyberia I assure you, put it in eBay and someone will indeed want it.
 >> Stay informed about: Now I know why adventure games are not very popular