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Dan

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:14 pm
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I'm trying to play some of the custom game scenarios that come with
Starcraft but the default is for all computer controlled players to ally
against me. Kind of hard to win Hunters that way. Is there a way to play
one of these scenarios in Free for All? Am I missing something?

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Luc The Perverse

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:57 pm
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"Dan" <Dan DeleteThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to play some of the custom game scenarios that come with
> Starcraft but the default is for all computer controlled players to ally
> against me. Kind of hard to win Hunters that way. Is there a way to play
> one of these scenarios in Free for All? Am I missing something?
>

Are you talking about the UMS maps?

You can make your own UMS maps - but if a UMS is supposed to be allied
against you then it wouldn't make much sense with the storyline.

If you are just talking about a standard map - them making a FFA game is
very simple

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:31 pm
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"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m DeleteThis @cc.usu.edu> wrote in message
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> "Dan" <Dan DeleteThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm trying to play some of the custom game scenarios that come with
>> Starcraft but the default is for all computer controlled players to ally
>> against me. Kind of hard to win Hunters that way. Is there a way to
>> play one of these scenarios in Free for All? Am I missing something?
>>
>
> Are you talking about the UMS maps?
>
> You can make your own UMS maps - but if a UMS is supposed to be allied
> against you then it wouldn't make much sense with the storyline.
>
> If you are just talking about a standard map - them making a FFA game is
> very simple

I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if you
select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a list of
maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type options are Melee
or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all" option. In any game you
start as Melee all computer opponents ally against you. Kind of makes the
Hunters map (8 players) just about impossible to survive.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:02 am
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"Dan" <Dan RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m RemoveThis @cc.usu.edu> wrote in message
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>> "Dan" <Dan RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>>> I'm trying to play some of the custom game scenarios that come with
>>> Starcraft but the default is for all computer controlled players to ally
>>> against me. Kind of hard to win Hunters that way. Is there a way to
>>> play one of these scenarios in Free for All? Am I missing something?
>>>
>>
>> Are you talking about the UMS maps?
>>
>> You can make your own UMS maps - but if a UMS is supposed to be allied
>> against you then it wouldn't make much sense with the storyline.
>>
>> If you are just talking about a standard map - them making a FFA game is
>> very simple
>
> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if you
> select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a list of
> maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type options are
> Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all" option. In any
> game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally against you. Kind of
> makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about impossible to survive.

You should start in multiplayer mode and add computer opponenents. Then you
should be able to pick the Free for All option.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:44 pm
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"Dan" <Dan.DeleteThis@NoSpam.com> writes:

> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if
> you select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a
> list of maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type
> options are Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all"
> option. In any game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally
> against you. Kind of makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about
> impossible to survive.

What version of the game are you playing? I am sure I have done what
you describe before, but I don't have Starcraft with me at the moment.

You might try starting a multiplayer game with several computer
opponents and no other human players; ``free for all'' should be on that
list.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:44 pm
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"Chris Mears" <chris RemoveThis @cmears.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dan" <Dan RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> writes:
>
>> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if
>> you select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a
>> list of maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type
>> options are Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all"
>> option. In any game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally
>> against you. Kind of makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about
>> impossible to survive.
>
> What version of the game are you playing? I am sure I have done what
> you describe before, but I don't have Starcraft with me at the moment.
>
> You might try starting a multiplayer game with several computer
> opponents and no other human players; ``free for all'' should be on that
> list.

Ah! That works! Of course, the cheat codes aren't available then so I have
to play fair. Wink
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:35 pm
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"Chris Mears" <chris DeleteThis @cmears.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dan" <Dan DeleteThis @NoSpam.com> writes:
>
>> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if
>> you select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a
>> list of maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type
>> options are Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all"
>> option. In any game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally
>> against you. Kind of makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about
>> impossible to survive.
>
> What version of the game are you playing? I am sure I have done what
> you describe before, but I don't have Starcraft with me at the moment.
>
> You might try starting a multiplayer game with several computer
> opponents and no other human players; ``free for all'' should be on that
> list.

Gave this a try. It allowed me to select Free For All but they still allied
against me and wiped me out in short order. Is there any way to set up a
game where the computer AI can't form alliances so that the forces won't
gang up on me?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:35 pm
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"Dan" <Dan.TakeThisOut@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Chris Mears" <chris.TakeThisOut@cmears.id.au> wrote in message
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>> "Dan" <Dan.TakeThisOut@NoSpam.com> writes:
>>
>>> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if
>>> you select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a
>>> list of maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type
>>> options are Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all"
>>> option. In any game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally
>>> against you. Kind of makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about
>>> impossible to survive.
>>
>> What version of the game are you playing? I am sure I have done what
>> you describe before, but I don't have Starcraft with me at the moment.
>>
>> You might try starting a multiplayer game with several computer
>> opponents and no other human players; ``free for all'' should be on that
>> list.
>
> Gave this a try. It allowed me to select Free For All but they still
> allied against me and wiped me out in short order. Is there any way to
> set up a game where the computer AI can't form alliances so that the
> forces won't gang up on me?
>

They are not forming alliances against you - you just need to practice more.

You keep making the game easier and easier for yourself and you will never
improve.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:36 pm
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"Frans" <phasysno303spam.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if you
>> select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a list of
>> maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type options are
>> Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all" option. In any
>> game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally against you. Kind of
>> makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about impossible to survive.
>
> You should start in multiplayer mode and add computer opponenents. Then
> you
> should be able to pick the Free for All option.

I did this and they still all allied against me. Is there any way to set up
a game against several computer opponents where they can't form alliances?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:36 pm
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"Dan" <Dan.TakeThisOut@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> I'm talking about the maps that came with the game. For example, if you
>>> select Single Player, and then Play Custom. You are then given a list
>>> of maps to choose from. On any map you choose the Game Type options are
>>> Melee or "Use map settings". There's no "Free for all" option. In any
>>> game you start as Melee all computer opponents ally against you. Kind
>>> of makes the Hunters map (8 players) just about impossible to survive.
>>
>> You should start in multiplayer mode and add computer opponenents. Then
>> you
>> should be able to pick the Free for All option.
>
> I did this and they still all allied against me. Is there any way to set
> up a game against several computer opponents where they can't form
> alliances?
>

You think they are allying against you because you don't see when they
attack each other.

The truth is, you just need to practice your skills and improve.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:36 pm
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"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m DeleteThis @cc.usu.edu> wrote in message
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>
> They are not forming alliances against you - you just need to practice
> more.

They launch joint attacks side by side. Their units attack mine in concert.
The don't attack each other. Sounds an awful lot like alliances to me...
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:37 pm
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"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m.RemoveThis@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message
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>
> You think they are allying against you because you don't see when they
> attack each other.

So you are saying that enemy units will walk across a field right next to
each other and not attack each other?
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:06 am
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"Dan" <Dan.TakeThisOut@NoSpam.com> writes:

> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m.TakeThisOut@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message
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>>
>> You think they are allying against you because you don't see when they
>> attack each other.
>
> So you are saying that enemy units will walk across a field right next
> to each other and not attack each other?

Sometimes they will.

Save a replay of the game and watch it to see if they really do attack
each other.

By the way, I have Brood War version 1.13f and I can pick free for all
from the single player custom game setup. Maybe you need to update?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:06 am
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"Chris Mears" <chris RemoveThis @cmears.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dan" <Dan RemoveThis @NoSpam.com> writes:
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>> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m RemoveThis @cc.usu.edu> wrote in
>> message
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>>>
>>> You think they are allying against you because you don't see when they
>>> attack each other.
>>
>> So you are saying that enemy units will walk across a field right next
>> to each other and not attack each other?
>
> Sometimes they will.
>
> Save a replay of the game and watch it to see if they really do attack
> each other.
>
> By the way, I have Brood War version 1.13f and I can pick free for all
> from the single player custom game setup. Maybe you need to update?

I'm just using StarCraft 1.0
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:06 am
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"Chris Mears" <chris.TakeThisOut@cmears.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dan" <Dan.TakeThisOut@NoSpam.com> writes:
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>> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m.TakeThisOut@cc.usu.edu> wrote in
>> message
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>>>
>>> You think they are allying against you because you don't see when they
>>> attack each other.
>>
>> So you are saying that enemy units will walk across a field right next
>> to each other and not attack each other?
>
> Sometimes they will.
>
> Save a replay of the game and watch it to see if they really do attack
> each other.
>
> By the way, I have Brood War version 1.13f and I can pick free for all
> from the single player custom game setup. Maybe you need to update?

OMG

Yes - if you are not running the latest patch FFA didn't used to work
correctly

(And I will feel like a complete ass)

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