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Martin Keiter

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:19 am
Post subject: phost give command and starbase build
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if I give away a planet using phost's "give" command and, in the same
turn, give the order to build a starbase there, will both these commands
be executed? (yes, a ship of the other race is orbiting)
Will the planet belong to the other race in the next turn AND have a
starbase?

phost docs say:
"When a planet is given away, its friendly code is randomized. If there
is a base orbiting the planet, then all hulls in base storage are
recycled and any pending build order is cancelled."
(http://phost.de/dox/commands.htm)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:19 am
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On Aug 8, 8:19 am, Martin Keiter <Martin.Keiter_NOS... DeleteThis @gmx.de> wrote:
> if I give away a planet using phost's "give" command and, in the same
> turn, give the order to build a starbase there, will both these commands
> be executed? (yes, a ship of the other race is orbiting)
> Will the planet belong to the other race in the next turn AND have a
> starbase?

This is a good question. Ownership transfers happen right at the start
of host processing, pretty much before anything else ... BUT building
a base is a client-side order, so may be processed even earlier.

I've never tried it, but my guess would be that the base gets built
first, and then the planet is given away (with the new base).

Let us know ...

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:37 pm
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Hi,

you first build the base then give away the planet with base intact.
Excerpt from the phost documentation
http://www.phost.de/phost4doc/pcontrol.html

Phase 1 - Turn Processing
(...)
move cargo into transporters. Most command messages are executed.
Starbases are built.
(...)
Phase 2 - Host Action
Ownership Transfers
(...)

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:37 pm
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Ingo von Borstel <newsgroups.RemoveThis@planetmaker.de> schrieb:

> you first build the base then give away the planet with base intact.
> Excerpt from the phost documentation
> http://www.phost.de/phost4doc/pcontrol.html
>
> Phase 1 - Turn Processing
> (...)
> move cargo into transporters. Most command messages are executed.
> Starbases are built.
> (...)
> Phase 2 - Host Action
> Ownership Transfers
> (...)

Thanks, Ingo!

I had found:
"Starbases are less recognisable as being clientside than structures. If
you build a factory, it's there immediately and the used resources are
gone immediately. With a starbase, it's slightly different. The
resources are gone immediately, but the base isn't there yet. It is
however one of the first things done by the host program."
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~donovan/help/clientside.htm)

but I wasn't sure if the build would maybe be cancelled by the give
command.
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