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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:42 pm
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atarileaf wrote:
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> "I own plenty of consoles, just not one that has a PC inside."
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> If you've ever owned an Atarai 5200, you basically have a stripped down
> Atari 8-bit computer. The xbox being, at heart, a computer, is nothing new
> to the console world.
And of course there's the official PS2 Linux Kit, making the PS2 more
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:22 pm
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atarileaf wrote:
> If you've ever owned an Atarai 5200, you basically have a stripped down
> Atari 8-bit computer. The xbox being, at heart, a computer, is nothing
> new to the console world.
Well, (1) I don't own an Atari console.
And (2) duh, of course a console is a stripped down computer!
No single computer (platform) in history has achieved the dominance that
today's PC maintains. No single computer has ever had the vast library of
games that the PC has. I personally have a problem with buying a machine
(console) that is a cut-down version of a computer that I already own, just
so I can play games that would be identical, if not better, on my PC. All
because a certain company wanted to dominate the console market and enticed
(and I use the work loosely) PC game publishers to release their software
exclusively on the console.
Anyway, time for this thread to die.
I'm fully aware that nothing I say will change the opinion of any xbox
owner. Just like anything an xbox owner can say will never change my
opinion. That's why free markets and consumer choice work.
Besides, I was in the mood to do a bit of stirring when I saw the bait...
Regards,
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:22 pm
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And round and round the troll-go-round we go.
As I stated in one of my initial remarks, I wanted an xbox, fully aware that
it was basically a computer mind you, because I wanted a machine I could
simply plug into my tv and play a few games in the comfort of my living room
with family and friends. Console gaming has the capacity to be a much more
social platform than PC gaming. Perhaps you should consider the reasons
someone might want a console for games as opposed to a computer before
condemning us as stupid, mindless consumers. As someone who does extensive
digital video editing, I have a very high powered computer. I simply PREFER
to do my gaming away from it.
"Mark McDougall" <msmcdoug DeleteThis @no.spam.iinet> wrote in message
news:42665774$0$24742$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> atarileaf wrote:
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> > If you've ever owned an Atarai 5200, you basically have a stripped down
> > Atari 8-bit computer. The xbox being, at heart, a computer, is nothing
> > new to the console world.
>
> Well, (1) I don't own an Atari console.
>
> And (2) duh, of course a console is a stripped down computer!
>
> No single computer (platform) in history has achieved the dominance that
> today's PC maintains. No single computer has ever had the vast library of
> games that the PC has. I personally have a problem with buying a machine
> (console) that is a cut-down version of a computer that I already own,
just
> so I can play games that would be identical, if not better, on my PC. All
> because a certain company wanted to dominate the console market and
enticed
> (and I use the work loosely) PC game publishers to release their software
> exclusively on the console.
>
> Anyway, time for this thread to die.
>
> I'm fully aware that nothing I say will change the opinion of any xbox
> owner. Just like anything an xbox owner can say will never change my
> opinion. That's why free markets and consumer choice work.
>
> Besides, I was in the mood to do a bit of stirring when I saw the bait...
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> | Mark McDougall | "Electrical Engineers do it
> | <http://members.iinet.net.au/~msmcdoug> | with less resistance!" >> Stay informed about: It's official: Xbox360 is the next Dreamcast.... |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:56 am
Post subject: Re: It's official: Xbox360 is the next Dreamcast.... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 20/4/05 2:22 pm, in article
42665774$0$24742$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "Mark
McDougall" <msmcdoug.DeleteThis@no.spam.iinet> wrote:
> atarileaf wrote:
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>> If you've ever owned an Atarai 5200, you basically have a stripped down
>> Atari 8-bit computer. The xbox being, at heart, a computer, is nothing
>> new to the console world.
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> Well, (1) I don't own an Atari console.
>
> And (2) duh, of course a console is a stripped down computer!
>
> No single computer (platform) in history has achieved the dominance that
> today's PC maintains. No single computer has ever had the vast library of
> games that the PC has. I personally have a problem with buying a machine
> (console) that is a cut-down version of a computer that I already own, just
> so I can play games that would be identical, if not better, on my PC. All
> because a certain company wanted to dominate the console market and enticed
> (and I use the work loosely) PC game publishers to release their software
> exclusively on the console.
>
> Anyway, time for this thread to die.
>
> I'm fully aware that nothing I say will change the opinion of any xbox
> owner. Just like anything an xbox owner can say will never change my
> opinion. That's why free markets and consumer choice work.
You seem to be overlooking the fact that Xbox 360 will be the first console
to be more powerful than any PC on the market at the time.
Zo >> Stay informed about: It's official: Xbox360 is the next Dreamcast.... |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:53 pm
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Zomoniac wrote:
> On 20/4/05 2:22 pm, in article
> 42665774$0$24742$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "Mark
> McDougall" <msmcdoug DeleteThis @no.spam.iinet> wrote:
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>
>>atarileaf wrote:
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>>>If you've ever owned an Atarai 5200, you basically have a stripped down
>>>Atari 8-bit computer. The xbox being, at heart, a computer, is nothing
>>>new to the console world.
>>
>>Well, (1) I don't own an Atari console.
>>
>>And (2) duh, of course a console is a stripped down computer!
>>
>>No single computer (platform) in history has achieved the dominance that
>>today's PC maintains. No single computer has ever had the vast library of
>>games that the PC has. I personally have a problem with buying a machine
>>(console) that is a cut-down version of a computer that I already own, just
>>so I can play games that would be identical, if not better, on my PC. All
>>because a certain company wanted to dominate the console market and enticed
>>(and I use the work loosely) PC game publishers to release their software
>>exclusively on the console.
>>
>>Anyway, time for this thread to die.
>>
>>I'm fully aware that nothing I say will change the opinion of any xbox
>>owner. Just like anything an xbox owner can say will never change my
>>opinion. That's why free markets and consumer choice work.
>
>
> You seem to be overlooking the fact that Xbox 360 will be the first console
> to be more powerful than any PC on the market at the time.
>
Actually, most consoles are more powerful than the PCs on the market
for about the first 6-10 months of their life. Meaning that PC hardware
catches up to a new console's specs in about 6-10 months. At least,
that was the case with the Saturn/PS1, N64, Dreamcast, Xbox and
Gamecube, and the PS2 in polycount specs anyway.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/dcvspc1/
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:01 pm
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Mark McDougall wrote:
> No single computer has ever had the vast library of games that
> the PC has.
Hmm, that's subjective... DOS games for the PC are not the same
thing as Windows games, and even XP games are not the same thing
as 95/98/ME games. In other words, DOS games should be considered
one "platform" and separate from Windows games, which is another
"platform". Not just bundled into one false "PC" platform. >> Stay informed about: It's official: Xbox360 is the next Dreamcast.... |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:01 pm
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Just ignore him. He's a troll. He loves playing games on his computer but
hates Microsoft but if he's playing Doom 3 or Half Life 2, chances are he's
running XP because if he's using Linux or a Mac, that library he boasts
about would be a lot smaller.
And you're right, you can't lump all PC games ever made into one category
any more than you could lump every console game ever made from the Atari
2600 up to Xbox in one category.
"HAIR CHEMICALS" <010.RemoveThis@010.com> wrote in message
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> Mark McDougall wrote:
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> > No single computer has ever had the vast library of games that
> > the PC has.
>
> Hmm, that's subjective... DOS games for the PC are not the same
> thing as Windows games, and even XP games are not the same thing
> as 95/98/ME games. In other words, DOS games should be considered
> one "platform" and separate from Windows games, which is another
> "platform". Not just bundled into one false "PC" platform.
>
> >> Stay informed about: It's official: Xbox360 is the next Dreamcast.... |
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