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stephenj

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: nice NY Times Gygax article Archived from groups: rec>games>frp>dnd (more info?)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=...m+roger -- "when i visited Aden before collectivization, all the markets were full of fish product. After collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared." - Aleksandr Vassiliev, Soviet KGB official >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

and thus stephenj inscribed ... > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=...m+roger And a not so nice one from slate.com http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ -- "... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done." --till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>> >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

~consul wrote: > and thus stephenj inscribed ... >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=...m+roger > > > And a not so nice one from slate.com > > http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ > Good God, that was funny. Did you see the part where he praises GURPS over D&D? Kinda says it all right there. >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

Allen Wessels

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <fr9hpf$nvu$1@gist.usc.edu>, ~consul <consul RemoveThis @dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote: > And a not so nice one from slate.com > > http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ Nerd rebel without a clue. - Allen >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

Darin McBride

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

~consul wrote: > and thus stephenj inscribed ... >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=...m+roger > > And a not so nice one from slate.com > > http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ sigh It's not that Gary Gygax was the premiere RPG designer. What he did was overcome a hurdle in creating a brand new style of game. That's what the celebration of life is all about. It's sort of like a celebration of Ada Lovelace - she didn't invent the best programming language (that's Larry Wall :->), but she did overcame hurdles in creating a brand new style of interacting with a computer. Of course the original inventor can be bettered by others. But those others usually wouldn't have come up with the new area by themselves (well, I'm sure someone would have invented computer programming eventually, but Ada gets to be first). They had the chance to build on what (and who) came before. This is evidenced every week on this newsgroup by people taking what came before (1e, 2e, 3e, 3.5e, tidbits of 4e) and massaging them (bettering them, at least in their own opinion, if not others') to come up with new options, spells, feats, rules, worlds, or whatever, and proposing the discarding of whatever doesn't work for them. I highly doubt that Keith would be anywhere this near his own gaming system ("KSRD," IIRC) if it weren't for the work of those who developed 3e/3.5e, and that wouldn't be anywhere near what it is today (if it even were to be anything) without the work that EGG put into D&D (basic and 1e). Even if basic and 1e sucked, which you definitely can opine, EGG's contribution was a genre of game, not just the game itself. >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Mar 12, 7:42 pm, Some Guy <noemailformetha....RemoveThis@anyplace.invalid> wrote: > ~consul wrote: > > and thus stephenj inscribed ... > >>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq... > > > And a not so nice one from slate.com > > >http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ > > Good God, that was funny. Did you see the part where he praises GURPS > over D&D? Kinda says it all right there. Yep that's where I stopped reading. - Justisaur >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Allen Wessels said > In article <fr9hpf$nvu$1@gist.usc.edu>, > ~consul <consul DeleteThis @dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote: > > >> And a not so nice one from slate.com >> >> http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ > > Nerd rebel without a clue. Nah Vampire player out to get revenge on everyone who every mocked him. -- rob singers pull finger to reply 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

Malachias Invictus

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks.TakeThisOut@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message news:uw0Cj.20562$CD7.5359@newsfe11.phx... > ~consul wrote: >> and thus stephenj inscribed ... >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=...m+roger >> >> >> And a not so nice one from slate.com >> >> http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ >> > > Good God, that was funny. Did you see the part where he praises GURPS > over D&D? Kinda says it all right there. Hell, he praises Runequest over D&D. He also obviously knows next to nothing about the more current editions. -- ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^ It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishment the scroll, I am the Master of my fate: I am the Captain of my soul. from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <ZaydncEq55abREfanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>, Malachias Invictus <invictusebay.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote: > >"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks.DeleteThis@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message >news:uw0Cj.20562$CD7.5359@newsfe11.phx... >>> >>> http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ >> >> Good God, that was funny. Did you see the part where he praises GURPS >> over D&D? Kinda says it all right there. > >Hell, he praises Runequest over D&D. He also obviously knows next to >nothing about the more current editions. Yeah, but he wasn't wrong about everything either. D&D is not really much of a roleplaying game if you look at it from the point of view of what's in the rules. D&D is a tactical miniatures wargame with the roleplaying being done ad-hoc by the players who care to be concerned with such things. Heck, it was only in 3e that non-combat XP was even encoded as part of the main rules. There are very few rules for social interaction beyond "intimidate/bluff" (and even less discussion of the long term consequences of using stuff like that on NPCs). D&D, if you go by the gameplay that the rules and supplements support, is still almost exclusively about killing people and taking their stuff. The fact that a lot of playing groups add things like moral complexity, extensive interactions with the NPCs, and rich socio-political environments is a tribute to the quality of those players, not to the game, which includes little to support their efforts. -- "I know I promised, Lord, never again. But I also know that YOU know what a weak-willed person I am." >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: nice NY Times Gygax article [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Malachias Invictus" <invictusebay.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> writes: > "Some Guy" <noemailformethanks.DeleteThis@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message > news:uw0Cj.20562$CD7.5359@newsfe11.phx... >> ~consul wrote: >>> and thus stephenj inscribed ... >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09rogers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=...m+roger >>> >>> >>> And a not so nice one from slate.com >>> >>> http://www.slate.com/id/2186203/ >>> >> >> Good God, that was funny. Did you see the part where he praises GURPS >> over D&D? Kinda says it all right there. > > Hell, he praises Runequest over D&D. He also obviously knows next to > nothing about the more current editions. Sounds familiar... Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source. >> Stay informed about: nice NY Times Gygax article

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