Were-necklace (Magic Item)

"Bill Wayne" <HWayne.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> tomefoster wrote:
>> Werenecklace
>>
>>
>>
>> The necklace grants the following at all times:
>>
>> +4 Strength
>>
>> +4 Constitution
>>
>> +4 Natural Armor
>>
>>
>>
>> At night, the wearer turns into a werewolf whose primary goal is to
>> infect
>> others with lycanthropy. Those bitten by the werewolf must make a
>> Fortitude
>> save (20) or be infected with the disease. The wearer has +4 Charisma
>> with
>> those that he infects with lycanthropy even when not in were-form. While
>> in
>> were-form, the wearer has Weapon Finesse (Bite) and DR 15/Silver.
>> Neither
>> the wearer nor his followers are aware of their were status or activities
>> while in were-form.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once donned, the necklace cannot be removed until slain or a remove curse
>> is
>> cast by a 15th level caster. The necklace takes on a different form each
>> time it leaves an owner. Some forms include: a spiked iron collar, a
>> jeweled necklace, a silk scarf, and a simple rope.
>
> If you identify it, do you know what it does? If you can, you can just
> lock yourself in a cage every night and get a free +4 Amulet of Natural
> Armor/Strength/Health. What's its cost?
>
> Bill
>
Good point. It can't be identified or detected. Its intention is to cause
random chaos (redundant?) around unwitting wearers. IMC I had it in the
form of the spiked collar. The wearer had received it when he was held
captive by some kobold slavers. In his mind, he continued to wear it as a
badge of honor that he had survived and escaped. He assumed the bonuses
were the result of his years of hard labor. Perhaps, instead of saying
cannot be removed, I should also say that the wearer convinces himself it
should not be removed.
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tomefoster <tomefoster DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Werenecklace
>
> The necklace grants the following at all times:
>
> +4 Strength
>
> +4 Constitution
>
> +4 Natural Armor
>
> At night, the wearer turns into a werewolf whose primary goal is to
> infect others with lycanthropy. Those bitten by the werewolf must
> make a Fortitude save (20) or be infected with the disease. The
> wearer has +4 Charisma with those that he infects with lycanthropy
> even when not in were-form. While in were-form, the wearer has Weapon
> Finesse (Bite) and DR 15/Silver. Neither the wearer nor his followers
> are aware of their were status or activities while in were-form.

You get a +4 bonus to strength, and *Weapon Finesse* (which in 3.5
applies to *all* finesseable weapons, not just a single one btw). Odds
are very good you'd never apply finesse, given the bump to strength.

> Once donned, the necklace cannot be removed until slain or a remove
> curse is cast by a 15th level caster. The necklace takes on a
> different form each time it leaves an owner. Some forms include: a
> spiked iron collar, a jeweled necklace, a silk scarf, and a simple
> rope.

Interesting flavor text, I suppose, but doesn't really seem to be a
significant limitation on the object. It'd make a good curse on it, I
suppose, but it wouldn't reduce cost at all.

+4 Str 16,000
+4 Con 16,000
+4 Natural Armor 32,000
------
64,000

The 'amulet' slot has an affinity for protection, so the +4 natural
armor fits. The bumps to Str and Con don't match the affinity, so get a
50% increase[1], and another 50% increase because they are additional
effects in a single item[2], for 100% increase:

+4 Str (+surcharge) 32,000
+4 Con (+surcharge) 32,000
+4 Natural Armor 32,000
------
96,000


[1] RAW
[2] this may only be supposed to apply to *one* of the buffs because
'+4 natural armor' and '+4 ability' can be considered 'unrelated
effects'... but I don't believe so and am charging it.


DR15/silver is pretty nice DR in 3.5 (not as nice in 3.0 since magic
trumps material... but that is not so in 3.5) and the Weapon Finesse
feat would be, as I said, more or less useless anyway... I'm willing to
say that the curse pays for the DR.

So, looks like a 96,000gp cursed item.


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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:25:32 -0400, "tomefoster"
<tomefoster RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Werenecklace
>
>
>
> The necklace grants the following at all times:
>
> +4 Strength
>
> +4 Constitution
>
> +4 Natural Armor
>
>
>
>At night, the wearer turns into a werewolf whose primary goal is to infect
>others with lycanthropy. Those bitten by the werewolf must make a Fortitude
>save (20) or be infected with the disease. The wearer has +4 Charisma with
>those that he infects with lycanthropy even when not in were-form. While in
>were-form, the wearer has Weapon Finesse (Bite) and DR 15/Silver. Neither
>the wearer nor his followers are aware of their were status or activities
>while in were-form.
>
>
>
>Once donned, the necklace cannot be removed until slain or a remove curse is
>cast by a 15th level caster. The necklace takes on a different form each
>time it leaves an owner. Some forms include: a spiked iron collar, a
>jeweled necklace, a silk scarf, and a simple rope.

Ah. I was thinking it was a necklace that, during nights of the full
moon, turned into something else, say, a wolf-hair stole or a
wolf-tooth pendant, or some such.
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tomefoster wrote:
> Werenecklace
>
>
>
> The necklace grants the following at all times:
>
> +4 Strength
>
> +4 Constitution
>
> +4 Natural Armor
>
>
>
> At night, the wearer turns into a werewolf whose primary goal is to infect
> others with lycanthropy. Those bitten by the werewolf must make a Fortitude
> save (20) or be infected with the disease. The wearer has +4 Charisma with
> those that he infects with lycanthropy even when not in were-form. While in
> were-form, the wearer has Weapon Finesse (Bite) and DR 15/Silver. Neither
> the wearer nor his followers are aware of their were status or activities
> while in were-form.
>
>
>
> Once donned, the necklace cannot be removed until slain or a remove curse is
> cast by a 15th level caster. The necklace takes on a different form each
> time it leaves an owner. Some forms include: a spiked iron collar, a
> jeweled necklace, a silk scarf, and a simple rope.

This is a wicked cursed item! The amnesia of were-activities is a
nessisary touch
because *Knowing* that info ruins the intent of the curse.

Does lifting the curse on the leader negate the were-status of his
followers?

Dragonkat
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Dragonkat wrote:
> tomefoster wrote:
>
> > Once donned, the necklace cannot be removed until slain or a remove curse is
> > cast by a 15th level caster. The necklace takes on a different form each
> > time it leaves an owner. Some forms include: a spiked iron collar, a
> > jeweled necklace, a silk scarf, and a simple rope.
>
> This is a wicked cursed item! The amnesia of were-activities is a
> nessisary touch
> because *Knowing* that info ruins the intent of the curse.
>
> Does lifting the curse on the leader negate the were-status of his
> followers?


That would be boring, much more entertaining to have a bunch of
were-followers feeling betrayed and determined to 'fix' things.


John
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