mounts

Caeryn Dryad of Whisperwind wrote:

> Skill level
> 75 is available at level 40
> 150 is available at level 60
> 225 is available at level 70
> 300 is available at level 70
>

Ah, so there aren't separate apprentice/journeyman/expert/artisan levels
for the normal mount and the epic mount? They are combined together?

If I'm understanding this right, then apprentice training lets you ride
a regular mount at 40, and you can't train to journeyman until level 60?
But to train journeyman do you need an epic mount?

I guess I'm getting a little confused about what kind of overlap there
is between the regular and epic mounts and the difference ranks of
training for each.
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John Salerno <johnjsal DeleteThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> writes:
>1. Do you *have* to spend the extra money to train? My guess is yes,
>otherwise you can't ride it.

Correct.

>2. Is it possible to train above Apprentice status?

Yes, at 60, and then again at 70. You need the skill for epic mounts and
flying mounts respectively.

>3. If so, what benefits does this give? And is it worth it to do so, or
>is it a waste since you will eventually get an epic mount? (Or do a lot
>of people not get epic mounts because of the cost?)

The extra speed is very useful when farming. A few classes (druids,
shamans, hunters) have travel forms which help a bit, but you're still
faster on a mount. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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Erik Peter wrote:
> > At 75 it grants you the ability to ride the mounts that travel at 60%
> > of your run speed.
> > At 150 it grants you the ability to ride mounts that travel at 100% of
> > your run speed
> > At 225 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
> > 60% run speed and fly at 60% of your run speed
> > At 300 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
> > 100% run speed and fly at 280% of your run speed
>
> Just nitpicking a bit, but it's actually 160% (a 60% increase) percent
> of your running speed at 75. If it were 60% you would actually be slower
> on your mount.

Whoops I should have said X% more than your run speed.
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:12:42 -0500, John Salerno
<johnjsal.DeleteThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Caeryn Dryad of Whisperwind wrote:
>
>> Skill level
>> 75 is available at level 40
>> 150 is available at level 60
>> 225 is available at level 70
>> 300 is available at level 70
>>
>
>Ah, so there aren't separate apprentice/journeyman/expert/artisan levels
>for the normal mount and the epic mount? They are combined together?
>
>If I'm understanding this right, then apprentice training lets you ride
>a regular mount at 40, and you can't train to journeyman until level 60?
>But to train journeyman do you need an epic mount?
>
>I guess I'm getting a little confused about what kind of overlap there
>is between the regular and epic mounts and the difference ranks of
>training for each.

Apprentice = skill 75 = regular mount = lvl 40 = 90g
Journeyman = skill 150 = epic mount = lvl 60 = 900g*
Expert = skill 225 = flying mount = lvl 70 = 900g
Artisan = skill 300 = epic flying mount = lvl 70 = 5000g

Basically the different levels are what allows you to ride each mount
- you can't ride a regular mount without having bought apprentice
riding, you can't ride an epic mount without buying journeyman riding,
etc etc.

*the price for journeyman riding might rdeuce when TBC comes, it's
currently 600g on the beta server.

Btw all the prices I've listed don't include discounts, so remove 10%
if you're honoured with the faction you're buying from.
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Catriona R wrote:

> Apprentice = skill 75 = regular mount = lvl 40 = 90g
> Journeyman = skill 150 = epic mount = lvl 60 = 900g*
> Expert = skill 225 = flying mount = lvl 70 = 900g
> Artisan = skill 300 = epic flying mount = lvl 70 = 5000g

Ah, perfectly clear now! So as far as I'm concerned right now, it will
stop with apprentice training! I can't even imagine 90g at this point,
let alone 900, but I guess I'll see how it goes when I get to 40.

Thanks!
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:38:18 -0500, John Salerno
<johnjsal.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Catriona R wrote:
>
>> Apprentice = skill 75 = regular mount = lvl 40 = 90g
>> Journeyman = skill 150 = epic mount = lvl 60 = 900g*
>> Expert = skill 225 = flying mount = lvl 70 = 900g
>> Artisan = skill 300 = epic flying mount = lvl 70 = 5000g
>
>Ah, perfectly clear now! So as far as I'm concerned right now, it will
>stop with apprentice training! I can't even imagine 90g at this point,
>let alone 900, but I guess I'll see how it goes when I get to 40.

Hehe the amounts aren't so scary when you get higher level 900g is
quite a grind, I've got two characters who need epic mounts currently
(one's been 60 a while, another is approaching 60), and it's not easy
to get that much, but not impossible either, I'm up to 700g on the lvl
60 and 200 on the lvl 53 (with items which I'm hoping are worth at
least another 200g in the bank to sell), plus if the price does indeed
get lowered it'll be easier.

And earning money in TBC will be easy, believe me - I transferred to
the beta server with no more than 600g in hand, but now have 1200,
despite having spent quite a lot - with concentration on saving it'll
be easy to make the money to get up to expert riding skill, and the
5000g for artisan will be a similar challenge to the current 900g for
journeyman; that is challenging but not impossible
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> At 75 it grants you the ability to ride the mounts that travel at 60%
> of your run speed.
> At 150 it grants you the ability to ride mounts that travel at 100% of
> your run speed
> At 225 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
> 60% run speed and fly at 60% of your run speed
> At 300 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
> 100% run speed and fly at 280% of your run speed

Just nitpicking a bit, but it's actually 160% (a 60% increase) percent
of your running speed at 75. If it were 60% you would actually be slower
on your mount.
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"Erik Peter" <epeter.TakeThisOut@online.de> wrote in message
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>
>> At 75 it grants you the ability to ride the mounts that travel at 60%
>> of your run speed.
>> At 150 it grants you the ability to ride mounts that travel at 100% of
>> your run speed
>> At 225 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
>> 60% run speed and fly at 60% of your run speed
>> At 300 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
>> 100% run speed and fly at 280% of your run speed
>
> Just nitpicking a bit, but it's actually 160% (a 60% increase) percent of
> your running speed at 75. If it were 60% you would actually be slower on
> your mount.

so am i reading this right.... the first flying mount is actually slower
then your epic mount?
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Catriona R wrote:
> Apprentice = skill 75 = regular mount = lvl 40 = 90g
> Journeyman = skill 150 = epic mount = lvl 60 = 900g*
> Expert = skill 225 = flying mount = lvl 70 = 900g
> Artisan = skill 300 = epic flying mount = lvl 70 = 5000g
>
> Basically the different levels are what allows you to ride each mount
> - you can't ride a regular mount without having bought apprentice
> riding, you can't ride an epic mount without buying journeyman riding,
> etc etc.
>
> *the price for journeyman riding might rdeuce when TBC comes, it's
> currently 600g on the beta server.
>
> Btw all the prices I've listed don't include discounts, so remove 10%
> if you're honoured with the faction you're buying from.

And more if you get to PvP Rank 3 before you buy if it's still the same
after the honour change.

steve.kaye
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Catriona R wrote:
[...]
> And earning money in TBC will be easy, believe me - I transferred to
> the beta server with no more than 600g in hand, but now have 1200,
> despite having spent quite a lot - with concentration on saving it'll
> be easy to make the money to get up to expert riding skill, and the
> 5000g for artisan will be a similar challenge to the current 900g for
> journeyman; that is challenging but not impossible

Didn't somebody post in here about gold being more plentiful during beta
tests, because Blizzard wants the volunteer testers to progress fast
through the game? If so, gold gain in non-beta TBC will not be as easy
as you claim.

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sagatafl.org
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Cling wrote:
> "Erik Peter" <epeter DeleteThis @online.de> wrote in message
>>>At 75 it grants you the ability to ride the mounts that travel at 60%
>>>of your run speed.
>>>At 150 it grants you the ability to ride mounts that travel at 100% of
>>>your run speed
>>>At 225 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
>>>60% run speed and fly at 60% of your run speed
>>>At 300 it grants you the ability to ride flying mounts that travel at
>>>100% run speed and fly at 280% of your run speed
>>
>>Just nitpicking a bit, but it's actually 160% (a 60% increase) percent of
>>your running speed at 75. If it were 60% you would actually be slower on
>>your mount.
>
> so am i reading this right.... the first flying mount is actually slower
> then your epic mount?

That's a good question. Anyone know?

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sagatafl.org
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"John Salerno" <johnjsal.DeleteThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Caeryn Dryad of Whisperwind wrote:
>
>> Skill level
>> 75 is available at level 40
>> 150 is available at level 60
>> 225 is available at level 70
>> 300 is available at level 70
>>
>
> Ah, so there aren't separate apprentice/journeyman/expert/artisan levels
> for the normal mount and the epic mount? They are combined together?
>
> If I'm understanding this right, then apprentice training lets you ride a
> regular mount at 40, and you can't train to journeyman until level 60? But
> to train journeyman do you need an epic mount?
>
The way it was - you need the training before you can buy the mount.
> I guess I'm getting a little confused about what kind of overlap there is
> between the regular and epic mounts and the difference ranks of training
> for each.
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> It's never been said that that is the case - someone suggested it but
> no-one official has confirmed it, and I cannot see why it would be the
> case. It's only logical for gold to increase as you level - the
> coppers a lvl 1 gets don't compare to the silvers a lvl 15 gets, which
> don't compare to the gold a higher level gets. so why would the
> gradual increase in income suddenly stop at level 60? When the prices
> of everything have increased above 60?

As Catriona points out, there is no reason to suggest that the epic
flying mount will be any harder to obtain than the epic riding mount
during the early days of release.

This doesn't mean it will be easy as money was scarce during those days
-- but eventually everyone who cared to get one, got one.

I think the misconception here is that you "need" an epic flying mount
and people are upset over how expensive it is. There's always the
discount alternative which I think is just as functional for the people
who can't afford the epic one *now*
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