[40k] [model] Impressive gaming table

Hey,

On Nov 10, 6:08 pm, "Jon Hedge" <jon.he....RemoveThis@hedge.jon> wrote:
> Found this

Neato. [sharpens knives]

Tiresome: Looped Imperial March. "Imperial City. Get it?"
Obligatory: CPU fans, Macragge bits, barbed wire, rubble.
Nicely done: Quonset hut, floor tile, elevated sections, lamps.
Outstanding: Roadways & signage, rabbit wire handrails.
Standing O: Laser barrier and sequenced landing lights.

Verdict: A gamer who doesn't fear real running water?
Two thumbs raised high enough to expose the armpits!


Playa
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On Nov 11, 6:19 pm, Playa <hurlgen....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Nov 10, 6:08 pm, "Jon Hedge" <jon.he....DeleteThis@hedge.jon> wrote:
>
> > Found this
>
> Neato. [sharpens knives]
>
> Tiresome: Looped Imperial March. "Imperial City. Get it?"
> Obligatory: CPU fans, Macragge bits, barbed wire, rubble.
> Nicely done: Quonset hut, floor tile, elevated sections, lamps.
> Outstanding: Roadways & signage, rabbit wire handrails.
> Standing O: Laser barrier and sequenced landing lights.
>
> Verdict: A gamer who doesn't fear real running water?
> Two thumbs raised high enough to expose the armpits!

Easy there, gamer.
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luntacarsus.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> On Nov 11, 10:08 am, "Jon Hedge" <jon.he....RemoveThis@hedge.jon> wrote:
>> Found this while looking for porn:
>
> One wonders what keywords led you to this.

The words "Death Star" and "Ass load" come to mind...
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Between saving the world and having a spot of tea said

> On Nov 11, 10:08 am, "Jon Hedge" <jon.he... RemoveThis @hedge.jon> wrote:
>> Found this while looking for porn:
>
> One wonders what keywords led you to this.

Yes. It's a long time since we've had a new perversion in RGMW.

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"Jon Hedge" <jon.hedge RemoveThis @hedge.jon> wrote in message
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> Found this while looking for porn:
> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=21354751
>
> It goes for 10 minutes so do allow for loading time. While the camera work
> never improves, the table does hold certain surprises. Recommended viewing
> for any Cities of Death buff.
> --

It's interesting, in the same way that the elaborate terrain set-ups model
railroaders come-up with. I look at it and say it's nice, but what is it
for? You certainly cannot ever play a wargame on them. And how do you
store it when you're not playing 'cities of death'? I once knew a model
rail-road enthuasist who had his train set-up on four electric pullies in
his garage. So whenever he wasn't admiring his handiwork (and needed to
park his car inside the garage instead of on the street) he would winch the
board up to the ceiling to make the necessary room.

It also reminds me of the to-scale recreations of the field of waterloo I've
seen a couple of Napoleonic gamers have come-up with. They're nice terrain
boards too, just so long as you never want to do anything but the battle of
Waterloo.

<shrug>

I think it's a little too much obsessive-compulsive for my tastes. I can't
help wondering whenever I see stuff like this what will happen to all this
work when the divorce is finalized or the eviction for non-payment of rent
is enforced?

--
MJB

Mr. Tin's Miniature Painting Workshop:
http://web.newsguy.com/Mrtinsworkshop/
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Playa wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Nov 10, 6:08 pm, "Jon Hedge" <jon.he....RemoveThis@hedge.jon> wrote:
>> Found this
>
> Neato. [sharpens knives]
>
> Tiresome: Looped Imperial March. "Imperial City. Get it?"
> Obligatory: CPU fans, Macragge bits, barbed wire, rubble.
> Nicely done: Quonset hut, floor tile, elevated sections, lamps.
> Outstanding: Roadways & signage, rabbit wire handrails.
> Standing O: Laser barrier and sequenced landing lights.
>
> Verdict: A gamer who doesn't fear real running water?
> Two thumbs raised high enough to expose the armpits!

Really, really annoying "shaky-cam" technique. "Turn off after 30
seconds and skip rest of the film."
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Hey,

On Nov 12, 9:56 am, "MJB" <mrt....RemoveThis@OLDsguy.com> wrote:

> I look at it and say it's nice, but what is it for?

I ask the same question of gamers that model intact buildings.

> You certainly cannot ever play a wargame on them.

Well, I wouldn't go that far, but it does seem a smidge 'busy'.

> how do you store it when you're not playing

A cheap way to store your board out of the way between battles -

Hang two pieces of tubing across your garage ceiling using chain.
Support the tubes just above your garage door 'guide rail' height.
The horizontal tubes will efficiently support virtually any size
board.

> It also reminds me of the to-scale recreations of the field of waterloo

Yep. I'd say it resembles a diorama more than a gaming board.


Playa
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"Playa" <hurlgen40k.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey,
>
> On Nov 12, 9:56 am, "MJB" <mrt....TakeThisOut@OLDsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> I look at it and say it's nice, but what is it for?
>
> I ask the same question of gamers that model intact buildings.

I suppose it depends on the game scale. If one model figure represents
fifty actual men and one model building is an artifact to represent a
built-up area composed of many smaller buildings, then an intact building
serves an astethic as well as practical purpose. All my many 15mm buildings
are completely intact and have served well for many years.

>
>> You certainly cannot ever play a wargame on them.
>
> Well, I wouldn't go that far, but it does seem a smidge 'busy'.

You can't play a game on that table. If you're wearing long sleeves you'd
be snagging on everything. And if you weren't wearing long sleeves, you'd
be bleeding before the game was over.

>
>> how do you store it when you're not playing
>
> A cheap way to store your board out of the way between battles -
>
> Hang two pieces of tubing across your garage ceiling using chain.
> Support the tubes just above your garage door 'guide rail' height.
> The horizontal tubes will efficiently support virtually any size
> board.

That assumes you have a garage. I've had fully-functional and dedicated
game room for twenty years. But I've never had a garage.

>
>> It also reminds me of the to-scale recreations of the field of waterloo
>
> Yep. I'd say it resembles a diorama more than a gaming board.

Which is kind of the point about 'gaming' terrain. I think it's supposed to
be flexiable, arrangable and durable. If it's lightweight and storeable,
then it's perfect.

--
MJB

Mr. Tin's Miniature Painting Workshop:
http://web.newsguy.com/Mrtinsworkshop/
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In article <fh9pj10315a.TakeThisOut@news4.newsguy.com>, mrtinj.TakeThisOut@OLDsguy.com says...
>
> "Jon Hedge" <jon.hedge.TakeThisOut@hedge.jon> wrote in message
> news:473639dc$0$10684$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> > Found this while looking for porn:
> > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=21354751
> >
> > It goes for 10 minutes so do allow for loading time. While the camera work
> > never improves, the table does hold certain surprises. Recommended viewing
> > for any Cities of Death buff.
> > --
>
> It's interesting, in the same way that the elaborate terrain set-ups model
> railroaders come-up with. I look at it and say it's nice, but what is it
> for? You certainly cannot ever play a wargame on them.

I could see getting maybe 2 or 3 games out of it before it got
fairly predictable.

> And how do you store it when you're not playing 'cities of death'?

That's the part that would kill me - while it's a kick ass model,
there's no way in hell I could justify building something like that
since it can't be easily stored or transported.

>
> It also reminds me of the to-scale recreations of the field of waterloo I've
> seen a couple of Napoleonic gamers have come-up with. They're nice terrain
> boards too, just so long as you never want to do anything but the battle of
> Waterloo.
>
> <shrug>

I'm totally with you on this one. I've got a few large 'static'
terrain pieces like my trench works hillside, but even that's been
designed so that bunkers, razor wire, and other goodies are optional
rather than fixed elements on it. And then the whole thing can be
removed and stored so that it doesn't become over-used and boring.

>
> I think it's a little too much obsessive-compulsive for my tastes.

I don't 'dislike' this person's work per say. In fact it is to my
thinking a rather impressive piece of modeling and basic electronics
work. But it isn't something I'd build for myself either. I'm not a
fan of a lot of the GW stuff either. They have 'uber realistic' rubble
piles that have to be a complete pain in the ass to actually set up and
move minis around on - thus limiting game play value. Which seems
rather dumb other than 'It makes cool pictures for our White Dwarf ads'.

> I can't
> help wondering whenever I see stuff like this what will happen to all this
> work when the divorce is finalized or the eviction for non-payment of rent
> is enforced?
>
Sadly, I've seen that too. It'll be sold for pennys on the dollar
or scraped all together. But that's true of almost everything made by
mankind - it has a lifespan of its own, and then it vanishes into the
mists of history.


Myr

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and I'm too knackered for riotous living..."

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"Myrmidon" <imnot DeleteThis @home.com> wrote in message
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> In article <fh9pj10315a DeleteThis @news4.newsguy.com>, mrtinj DeleteThis @OLDsguy.com says...
>> You certainly cannot ever play a wargame on them.
>
> I could see getting maybe 2 or 3 games out of it before it got
> fairly predictable.

As well as beat-to-death. It's not practiable in anyway.

>
>> And how do you store it when you're not playing 'cities of death'?
>
> That's the part that would kill me - while it's a kick ass model,
> there's no way in hell I could justify building something like that
> since it can't be easily stored or transported.

It's also subject to the vagaries of time and temperature. Put it in a cold
garage or basement and the glue bonds weaken. Store it on it's side and all
the loose stuff ... shifts downward. Put it horizontal and stuff get's
stored on or around it. It's something that a lot of time, effort and money
went into - but very little fore-thought about what to do it with after it's
done. Sort of like the first time somebody decides that since they like to
fish, what they really need to do is buy a boat.

>
> I'm totally with you on this one. I've got a few large 'static'
> terrain pieces like my trench works hillside, but even that's been
> designed so that bunkers, razor wire, and other goodies are optional
> rather than fixed elements on it. And then the whole thing can be
> removed and stored so that it doesn't become over-used and boring.

Exactly. It also doesn't serve to over-whelm the creative process. Right
now I'm working on finishing my scratch-built necromunda terrain project.
It's made almost exclusively from cereal and cracker box carboard,
reinforced with balsa and small bits of foamcore. It weighs almost nothing
and short of someone beating it straight down with a fist, is pretty much
indestructiable. It's also generic enough that I've played other sorts of
games besides Necromunda using the protype / in-progress pieces - Mordheim,
wild west, star wars, 40k - and it's been enjoyable for all participants.
But figuring-out how to make neato buildings quite literally out of 'trash'
has been a interseting thought experiment all it's own.

>
>>
>> I think it's a little too much obsessive-compulsive for my tastes.
>
> I don't 'dislike' this person's work per say.

Where did I say that OCD was ever a BAD thing. I sometimes think that OCD
on the part of my clients is the only thing that has kept me in business for
almost fourteen years. One of my guys, who's been with me since the
beginning, has been telling me that 'this order is it, I'm done building
blood angels' for the last ten years.... and last week he sent me two FW
Landspeeder tempests and a Landraider Terminus. For his blud angles.

> In fact it is to my
> thinking a rather impressive piece of modeling and basic electronics
> work. But it isn't something I'd build for myself either. I'm not a
> fan of a lot of the GW stuff either. They have 'uber realistic' rubble
> piles that have to be a complete pain in the ass to actually set up and
> move minis around on - thus limiting game play value. Which seems
> rather dumb other than 'It makes cool pictures for our White Dwarf ads'.

I just got a bunch of GW resin rubble piles for a city of death project I'm
just about to start. Complete with a crashed motorcyle embedded in one of
them. And I have to say, I like them. Especially if you've already got
smaller, less elaborate brick or rock piles available to scatter about.
I've also got a couple of the all-plastic building kits which I am going to
have to tackle for the first time. I'm not exactly looking forward to the
process. Unless they are way-Kewl when I'm done. Then I'll want some for
myself...

>>>
> Sadly, I've seen that too. It'll be sold for pennys on the dollar
> or scraped all together. But that's true of almost everything made by
> mankind - it has a lifespan of its own, and then it vanishes into the
> mists of history.

Well, that's certainly taking the long view, Myr. Personally, I'd just like
the stuff I create to out-live me.

--
MJB

Mr. Tin's Miniature Painting Workshop:
http://web.newsguy.com/Mrtinsworkshop/

>
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