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Reginald Blue

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:19 am
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tussock wrote:
> Reginald Blue wrote:
>> Now... you have to like be skilled in guard dog or something. Smile
>
> Or, just assume the game works fairly sensibly, because it often
> does when you actually RTFM.

Ouch... but fair. Smile

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:25 am
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Patrick Baldwin wrote:

> At the DM's suggestion, I'm going to take leadership so we can get More
> Meat. Anything to suggest for a meaty cohort, ideally one stupid
> enough that we can basically treat it as an attack dog?

You'll only get a 4th level buddy, so you'll need something like a
Dwarf Fighter, 20 Con, 12 Dex, full plate and tower shield, dwarf waraxe
specialist.
I don't think you can easily differentiate Dwarf Fighters from attack
dogs at the best of times, so that should work.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:25 am
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tussock <scrub.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>Patrick Baldwin wrote:

>> At the DM's suggestion, I'm going to take leadership so we can get More
>> Meat. Anything to suggest for a meaty cohort, ideally one stupid
>> enough that we can basically treat it as an attack dog?

> You'll only get a 4th level buddy, so you'll need something like a
>Dwarf Fighter, 20 Con, 12 Dex, full plate and tower shield, dwarf waraxe
>specialist.

Heh, I've played that guy as a PC. At least I'd know just how
he works. Not that there's any particular mystery there.

Not point buy, randomly rolled attributes, but I do have a 17
to stick into Con.

> I don't think you can easily differentiate Dwarf Fighters from attack
>dogs at the best of times, so that should work.

No love for the orc barbarian? I was thinking one might work,
both in feel and mechanics. It's very much the "attack dog",
and it seems likely to hit hard and be fairly tough. Fast
is nice too, as I might have him serve as tactical transport
for my lil' halfling PC sometimes.

~P.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:25 am
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Patrick Baldwin <pax RemoveThis @osmium.mv.net> wrote in news:fr8s55$8tg$2
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> No love for the orc barbarian? I was thinking one might work,
> both in feel and mechanics. It's very much the "attack dog",
> and it seems likely to hit hard and be fairly tough. Fast
> is nice too, as I might have him serve as tactical transport
> for my lil' halfling PC sometimes.

That puts Mad Max images into my btain.

-phy
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:25 am
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On Mar 11, 10:46 pm, "David" <caissai... RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote:
> "Justisaur" <justis... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:cfbf0a2e-9126-4e67-bfff-9f38629e8430@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Mar 11, 2:32 pm, Alcore <alc... RemoveThis @uurth.com> wrote:
> >> I believe that Handle Animal can be used untrained.
>
> > Unfortunately it's trained only, which doesn't fit right IMHO.
>
> It can be used untrained with domestic animals.

Ah, I thought there was something like that, I just didn't find it
looking in the SRD. That pretty much fixes it.

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:27 am
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Patrick Baldwin wrote:
> tussock wrote:
>> Patrick Baldwin wrote:

>>> At the DM's suggestion, I'm going to take leadership so we can get
>>> More Meat. Anything to suggest for a meaty cohort, ideally one stupid
>>> enough that we can basically treat it as an attack dog?
>
>> You'll only get a 4th level buddy, so you'll need something like a
>> Dwarf Fighter, 20 Con, 12 Dex, full plate and tower shield, dwarf
>> waraxe specialist.
>
> Heh, I've played that guy as a PC. At least I'd know just how he
> works. Not that there's any particular mystery there.

> Not point buy, randomly rolled attributes, but I do have a 17 to
> stick into Con.

+1 at 4th level. Super.

>> I don't think you can easily differentiate Dwarf Fighters from
>> attack dogs at the best of times, so that should work.
>
> No love for the orc barbarian? I was thinking one might work,
> both in feel and mechanics. It's very much the "attack dog", and it
> seems likely to hit hard and be fairly tough. Fast is nice too, as I
> might have him serve as tactical transport for my lil' halfling PC
> sometimes.

Get a warpony too, and bring some spares. I don't think you'll match
the Dwarf tank for staying power, and at 4th level that'll be the biggest
issue for anyone you're throwing up front. Still, I guess the Druid,
Ranger, and other pets will all be 30+, so you might want to give him
some Longstrider.
OTOH, you don't have to outrun the monsters, ....

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:26 pm
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Malachias Invictus <invictusebay RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> "Justisaur" <justisaur RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> My argument was it's a freeking blink dog, it advances by HD, but they
>> didn't buy that one. Sprit vs. letter...
>
> Well, there is no real reason why a blink dog could not have class
> levels. Official WotC adventures have had quadrupeds with class
> levels before, in fact.

I've done it IMC.

'Tanya' was a baby storm dragon with Rogue levels (they suited her
personality *way* too well). No balance problems.

> I just don't see how the beastie could possibly be tough enough to
> compete with PCs of your level, given that he has to remain two levels
> behind. I mean, if your party is 12th level, that means the blink dog
> could be a 6th level Totemist. If he is doing more damage than a 12th
> level Warblade, there is something wrong with that Warblade, or some
> rule breaking going on with the blink dog.

Um, yeah. Something's wrong there. Warblades should be able to lay
smack down in disgusting amounts.


Keith
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