Just got locomotion

Michael Blunck wrote:

> adam kadlubek wrote:
>
>>> Would it be possible to get a list of locomotives?
>
>> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=10300
>>
>> more or less complete list.
>
> Thanks, Adam.
>
> A queer assortment of swiss engines, holy moly!

Well one of the "climates" is the swiss alps, so you kind of need those
engines....
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Josef Drexler wrote:

[list of engines]

>> A queer assortment of swiss engines, holy moly!

> Well one of the "climates" is the swiss alps, so you kind of need
> those engines....

Eh? What are you talking about?

My comment aimed at the list as a whole not to the fact that there are swiss
engines at all. Of course
it´ll be useful to have swiss locos at hand when modeling an alpine scenario,
beyond doubt. )

Michael
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> > (Buttoneer) wrote in message
> >>snip
> >
> > Not that it makes a lot of difference but on the first scenario when I
> > use the wait until full route command for a truck picking up iron ore,
> > (yes it's iron ore and no overlap of catchment area) it says "wait
> > until full of coal" and the truck will just sit in the station waiting
> > for the coal which isn't there. Removing the command lets the truck
> > pick up the ore and get on it's way.
>
> Don't be so quick to press the wait button. If you hold it down a bit when
> you click it, you'll see that you can choose wait you want it to wait for...

There are lots of little hidden things in the game that don't jump out
of you from the manual but which are extremely important for fine
tuing properly.

Using waypoints makes the signals usable, for example. the manual
doesn't make this clear or really tell you that you can click anywhere
on the track to create one.

Anyone figure out yet how to delete a bus stop?

Anyone yet figure our a speedy way to renew a bus? When I get a bus
that is so unreliable I need to replace it, I just want a nice single
click solution. What is get is;
Buy new bus (two clicks)
Copy old route across to new bus (three clicks)
Drop new bus and set it running (three clicks)
Stop old bus, pick it up and bin it (three clicks)

Eleven click for every single replacement.

This could be immensely speeded up and made less onerous with a single
click replacement (click on your old vehicle in the vehicle list,
click the spanner tab, click the replace button, click on the chosen
replacement vehicle in the new vehcile list). It all takes too long
at the moment and I'm fast getting RSI.

The cities and towns expand nice and quickly though.

I've also come across the situation where a local authority has
refused me a new airport because I was fiddling about too much with
the land. Fair doos actually, I'm sure any local authority would get
pissed off. But as I mentiuoned above you get no bribery/advertising
etc options in this game and I think it loses a lot for that.

Overall I'm still spending hour upon hour fiddling with things and
trying to make them neater, tidier, more efficient etc, which is great
fun in its own way.
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"Buttoneer" <colins138 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message

> There are lots of little hidden things in the game that don't jump out
>snip

Oh yes, I'm learning a lot as I go along and this game is deeper than it
first appears.

You can combine all types of stations if they are put close enough to each
other, this increases the catchment area of the entire combined station by
the non-overlap area of the new station. This can make a huge single station
that serves all types of transportation and things available to one station
will be available to all stations in the combined area if they can accept
that.

You can run trams tacks on roads and use trams instead of buses, greater
capacity, less breakdowns and later faster and still have the roads for
trucks.
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On 17 Sep 2004 03:49:05 -0700, Buttoneer wrote:

> Anyone figure out yet how to delete a bus stop?
>
> Anyone yet figure our a speedy way to renew a bus? When I get a bus
> that is so unreliable I need to replace it, I just want a nice single
> click solution. What is get is;
> Buy new bus (two clicks)
> Copy old route across to new bus (three clicks)
> Drop new bus and set it running (three clicks)
> Stop old bus, pick it up and bin it (three clicks)
>
> Eleven click for every single replacement.
>

To delete a Bus stop:

Select the road building tool and select bus stop. Move the mouse slowly
over where the bus stop is, for one pixel it will change (when the arrow is
over the bus stop) and the text changes to 'Right click to remove'. Very
tricky to start with, but you soon get to learn where you need to click.
however, if there are tall buildings in the area, it is next to impossible!

For renewing buses, trucks and trams:

select the vehicle and locate it on the map. Stop the vehicle. Drag the
vehicle to the trash can (as you would a train carriage). Click the
replacement vehicle from the list of buses. Place the new bus on the road.
Doing it this way it keeps the route information. Only slightly quicker,
but less prone to error.
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I to had problems with deleting stations. But got the hang of it. it is
tricky finding the right spot for deleting.

I have noticed that when you renew or upgrade a vehicle that it looses what
ever it was carrying. So I stop the vehicle just before entering a station
give it full unload. Then renew the vehicle after the unloading. You can
stop the vehicle anywhere that is a nice touch. Also use the stop vehicle
to remove a crashed vehicle.

Don

"Me" <me DeleteThis @me.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 17 Sep 2004 03:49:05 -0700, Buttoneer wrote:
>
> > Anyone figure out yet how to delete a bus stop?
> >
> > Anyone yet figure our a speedy way to renew a bus? When I get a bus
> > that is so unreliable I need to replace it, I just want a nice single
> > click solution. What is get is;
> > Buy new bus (two clicks)
> > Copy old route across to new bus (three clicks)
> > Drop new bus and set it running (three clicks)
> > Stop old bus, pick it up and bin it (three clicks)
> >
> > Eleven click for every single replacement.
> >
>
> To delete a Bus stop:
>
> Select the road building tool and select bus stop. Move the mouse slowly
> over where the bus stop is, for one pixel it will change (when the arrow
is
> over the bus stop) and the text changes to 'Right click to remove'. Very
> tricky to start with, but you soon get to learn where you need to click.
> however, if there are tall buildings in the area, it is next to
impossible!
>
> For renewing buses, trucks and trams:
>
> select the vehicle and locate it on the map. Stop the vehicle. Drag the
> vehicle to the trash can (as you would a train carriage). Click the
> replacement vehicle from the list of buses. Place the new bus on the road.
> Doing it this way it keeps the route information. Only slightly quicker,
> but less prone to error.
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Me wrote:

> For renewing buses, trucks and trams:

> select the vehicle and locate it on the map. Stop the vehicle. Drag the
> vehicle to the trash can (as you would a train carriage). Click the
> replacement vehicle from the list of buses. Place the new bus on the road.
> Doing it this way it keeps the route information. Only slightly quicker,
> but less prone to error.

In other words: the same way as in TTD...

Jo'Asia

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> On 17 Sep 2004 03:49:05 -0700, Buttoneer wrote:
>
> > Anyone figure out yet how to delete a bus stop?
> >
> > Anyone yet figure our a speedy way to renew a bus? When I get a bus
> > that is so unreliable I need to replace it, I just want a nice single
> > click solution. What is get is;
> > Buy new bus (two clicks)
> > Copy old route across to new bus (three clicks)
> > Drop new bus and set it running (three clicks)
> > Stop old bus, pick it up and bin it (three clicks)
> >
> > Eleven click for every single replacement.
> >
>
> To delete a Bus stop:
>
> Select the road building tool and select bus stop. Move the mouse slowly
> over where the bus stop is, for one pixel it will change (when the arrow is
> over the bus stop) and the text changes to 'Right click to remove'. Very
> tricky to start with, but you soon get to learn where you need to click.
> however, if there are tall buildings in the area, it is next to impossible!
>
> For renewing buses, trucks and trams:
>
> select the vehicle and locate it on the map. Stop the vehicle. Drag the
> vehicle to the trash can (as you would a train carriage). Click the
> replacement vehicle from the list of buses. Place the new bus on the road.
> Doing it this way it keeps the route information. Only slightly quicker,
> but less prone to error.

Oops. I am an arse. I should be used to the replacement method as
it's the same as it's always been. There is still the issue of having
the stop/go flag on the front tab of the vehicle rather than in the
title bar which would have been much easier.

The deleting of the passenger stops makes sense but it is so fine
tuned (especially at high resolutions) that it becomes totally
impractical at times. I also end up 'right clicking' on buildings
accidentally half the time and annoying the local authority.
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