Can I kill the pervert? (spoilers)

Greg Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:47:43 +0100, "Beck" <beck.TakeThisOut@photoscene.coo.ukk>
> wrote:
>
>> In the mission where you have to follow some people for the guy who
>> is clearly mentally unbalanced, there is a pervert who creeps up on
>> a woman and obviously does something to her as her reaction shows.
>> I haven't come across this guy again. Is he an in-game pervert? Is
>> there a point to his perverseness like another mission? I just find
>> it an odd character placement in the game. Why have a pervert if
>> there is no other point than this particular scripted event in this
>> mission?
>>
> I didn't run across it when doing that mission, but I'm pretty sure
> he's actually a thief trying to pickpocket. That's not scripted to
> happen at any particular time or place, but when it does happen the
> NPCs don't like it.

Ah that would make sense. I only thought it was a scripted event because
several people I have spoken to got the same event.
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:06:18 +0100, "Beck" <beck.RemoveThis@photoscene.coo.ukk> wrote:

>Greg Johnson wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:47:43 +0100, "Beck" <beck.RemoveThis@photoscene.coo.ukk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In the mission where you have to follow some people for the guy who
>>> is clearly mentally unbalanced, there is a pervert who creeps up on
>>> a woman and obviously does something to her as her reaction shows.
>>> I haven't come across this guy again. Is he an in-game pervert? Is
>>> there a point to his perverseness like another mission? I just find
>>> it an odd character placement in the game. Why have a pervert if
>>> there is no other point than this particular scripted event in this
>>> mission?
>>>
>> I didn't run across it when doing that mission, but I'm pretty sure
>> he's actually a thief trying to pickpocket. That's not scripted to
>> happen at any particular time or place, but when it does happen the
>> NPCs don't like it.
>
>Ah that would make sense. I only thought it was a scripted event because
>several people I have spoken to got the same event.

I did too. I think it was the first one. The woman. She goes to the vinyard to
the right of the road and sits down inside that small outhouse. I followed
this guy up there and he didn't try to pickpocket. He just skulked outside and
watched her. Very strange.
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It didn't happen to me either when I did that quest. However, later in
Bravil I watched the poor Argonian City-Swimmer make a botched
pickpocketing attempt and eventually get killed after a long chase by
the guards. When I later had to reload an earlier save-game, it didn't
happen and City-Swimmer is still in the lands of the living. So NPC
pickpocketing attempts are not scripted.
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Wow, the first real instance we have found that radiant AI is doing it's
thang. Pickpockets will randomly choose targets and get random hits & misses
with their skills.

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> It didn't happen to me either when I did that quest. However, later in
> Bravil I watched the poor Argonian City-Swimmer make a botched
> pickpocketing attempt and eventually get killed after a long chase by
> the guards. When I later had to reload an earlier save-game, it didn't
> happen and City-Swimmer is still in the lands of the living. So NPC
> pickpocketing attempts are not scripted.
>
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:56:08 +0800, "Ck" <cirbit DeleteThis @curl.aunz.net> wrote:

>Wow, the first real instance we have found that radiant AI is doing it's
>thang. Pickpockets will randomly choose targets and get random hits & misses
>with their skills.
>
><isolintu DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> It didn't happen to me either when I did that quest. However, later in
>> Bravil I watched the poor Argonian City-Swimmer make a botched
>> pickpocketing attempt and eventually get killed after a long chase by
>> the guards. When I later had to reload an earlier save-game, it didn't
>> happen and City-Swimmer is still in the lands of the living. So NPC
>> pickpocketing attempts are not scripted.

I wonder if all the non quest related NPCs could be killed off eventually. The
world would seem very empty then. Or are new ones generated periodically.
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Memnoch wrote:
>
> I wonder if all the non quest related NPCs could be killed off eventually. The
> world would seem very empty then. Or are new ones generated periodically.

My god man, are you advocating the extermination of an entire region
of people??!?!

That would be a lot of work.
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In article <1145043170.584276.129050 DeleteThis @g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<control_z DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>Memnoch wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if all the non quest related NPCs could be killed off eventually. The
>> world would seem very empty then. Or are new ones generated periodically.
>
> My god man, are you advocating the extermination of an entire region
>of people??!?!
>
> That would be a lot of work.

Not if I code the mod I'm working on correctly. Everyone should already be
familiar with the charm, calm, and frenzy spell families. Oblivion adds an
additional layer on top of this by grouping NPC objects so that different
groups may antagonize each other. If the skeleton aiming an arrow at you
hits a goblin by mistake, they start attacking each other.

Put simply, I'm trying to create a variation of the Frenzy spell that
causes non-player characters to want to kill each other. Why do the
killing when you can convince other people to do it for you? It seems to
be working for us in Iraq. :/

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control_z DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:

> My god man, are you advocating the extermination of an entire region
> of people??!?!
>
> That would be a lot of work.

Which reminds me. I tried to kill off everyone in imperial
city today. I got bored of trying. There's an awful lot of
people.
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> In article <1145043170.584276.129050.DeleteThis@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> <control_z.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Memnoch wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if all the non quest related NPCs could be killed off
>>> eventually. The world would seem very empty then. Or are new ones
>>> generated periodically.
>>
>> My god man, are you advocating the extermination of an entire region
>>of people??!?!
>>
>> That would be a lot of work.
>
> Not if I code the mod I'm working on correctly. Everyone should
> already be familiar with the charm, calm, and frenzy spell families.
> Oblivion adds an additional layer on top of this by grouping NPC
> objects so that different groups may antagonize each other. If the
> skeleton aiming an arrow at you hits a goblin by mistake, they start
> attacking each other.
>
> Put simply, I'm trying to create a variation of the Frenzy spell that
> causes non-player characters to want to kill each other. Why do the
> killing when you can convince other people to do it for you? It seems
> to be working for us in Iraq. :/

"28 days later" and "12 monkeys" did this rather well, i hope yours can
compare!

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On 14 Apr 2006 12:32:50 -0700, control_z.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>Memnoch wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if all the non quest related NPCs could be killed off eventually. The
>> world would seem very empty then. Or are new ones generated periodically.
>
> My god man, are you advocating the extermination of an entire region
>of people??!?!
>
> That would be a lot of work.

Heh. No, I meant random violence of course. Then again, for an alt character I
might take up an assassin gone bad type. That could be interesting.
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