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optimusprimettf

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:43 pm
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to all SEGA fans and old-skool RPG fans in general:

a Taiwanese / Chinese RPG for the Mega Drive that came out in 1996 by
C&E Inc. has been translated to English and will be manufactured &
distributed as an actual Genesis cartridge game. It should be released
pretty soon. Of course, it is without the approval of Sega, who owns
the host platform, Genesis / MD.

the original title was:
Xin Qi Gai Wang Zi / Myth On Light / New Beggar Prince

It will simply be called 'Beggar Prince' when it hits the States
(and maybe the UK too? I dunno)







http://www.beggarprince.com/

June 11, 2005

"I suppose it has been a question mark for quite a while, but Beggar
Prince is indeed a serious project of Super Fighter Team. C&E, Inc. was
kind enough to grant us exclusive permission to handle the job, and as
such we've made it a point to really put our hearts into it.

The game script was translated from Chinese to English, most of it then
rewritten to give the game a more understandable, exciting, and
emotional plot. The introduction and title screen graphics have been
changed to reflect the English title of the game. As I simply refuse to
release buggy or otherwise flawed software, I hired a few Genesis
programming veterans to patch and/or remove the bugs that C&E allowed
the game to ship with in Taiwan due to a rushed release schedule.
Overall, I am very proud of the work we have done and I believe the
Genesis-Megadrive community will appreciate all of the hard work that
has gone into the translation and additional preparation of this game.

Beggar Prince will be the first American cartridge release of a Sega
Genesis game in many years. An expansive RPG, the game is 4MB in size
and features four save game slots (32KB battery-backed SRAM). While
pricing details and exact release date are not yet decided, this game
is definitely a "go", with the backing of the original company (C&E,
Inc.) standing behind our efforts. OlderGames will be handling the
publishing and sale of the completed product.

Eight screenshots of the game in action are now available, as of today,
for viewing from this website. There will be many more pictures,
information, etc. on the website within a short time. Since the game is
so close to official release, I feel that now is a good time to get the
ball rolling.

It is my sincere hope that this project will inspire more folks to give
the Sega Genesis-Megadrive some additional attention, especially in the
way of as-of-yet untranslated RPG adventures. There are many
Taiwan-produced games of this genre waiting for a good, solid English
release. More often than not, the companies that create these Taiwanese
games are more than happy to help Westerners bring them to a larger
audience.

Thanks for your support! Keep an eye on this page for the most updated
news about the game and its upcoming release!"

- Death Adder
President, Super Fighter Team

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:22 am
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WOO HOO!!!

Is anyone else as excited about this as I am? Sure, more 16-bit RPGs
have been released than one can play in a lifetime*, but the thought
that at least one more will be released is awesome news!

*Between work, family, playing games from other genres and generations,
and replaying my favourites, I'll be amazed if I get to finish every
16-bit RPG I CURRENTLY own before I die! Smile

Anyways, if the makers of Beggar Prince are reading this, would it be
possible to package the game in a plastic case instead of a cardboard
box and also print its instruction manual in color?

Sean

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BelPowerslave

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:14 pm
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Another thing that worries me, how much are they going to attempt to
charge for this? Now granted, I'll pay whatever...I really will, but
I'm just wondering how much they'll attempt to go for. You've got to
figure, it's only 4 megs, with some sram(save slots)...but the
translation had to cost a pretty penny so they'll want to be getting
their money back on that...plus, since this is an actual cart and not a
CD, there's that to think about as well...and that doesn't even go into
packaging and a manual...

Looks like Oldergames.com will be handeling the dist., and they already
charge around $25 to $30 for the previously unreleased Sega CD
stuff...so I can realistically see this game at around $40 to $45.
Worth it? Who knows...but I'll pay it...Wink

Bel
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:48 pm
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Thank you, Bel, for taking the time to write that list of MD and MCD
titles that should be translated!

It was interesting to see some familiar names in the list, such as Sin
Megamitensei, Cosmic Fantasy Stories, Dragon Slayer, and Record of
Lodoss War!

Sean
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Ken Arromdee

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:58 pm
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Kendrick Kerwin Chua

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:58 pm
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In article <da95g4$ksk$2@blue.rahul.net>,
Ken Arromdee <arromdee.DeleteThis@green.rahul.net> wrote:
>In article <1119989716.842866.101260.DeleteThis@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>BelPowerslave <Belpowerslave.DeleteThis@ev1.net> wrote:
>>What I think translators, who actually want to publish the games they
>>are translating, should *seriously* look into the Mega CD. At least a
>>*forth* of the MCD library are RPG's! Here's a list:
>
>A lot of those are licensed games. Good luck getting permission for 3x3 Eyes.
>
>Taiwanese games are more likely to come from small companies that don't sell
>outside their home country, which it would be easier to get a license from.
>If you tried contacting, say, Capcom, they'd probably overcharge--and that
>assumes they'd even talk to you; it wouldn't be worth their time.

I actually would have high hopes regarding Capcom. You remember their
licensed MAME controller? They put together a double-joystick six-button
setup for use on PC's running a CPS-centic version of MAME. Granted,
that's emulation of existing titles rather than coding of a new localized
title, but the philosophy is similar.

>I wonder how many games are realistically possible.

Realistically? Very few. But with any kind of gaming risk, the money talks
louder than any other motivation. Another advantage would be the use of an
existing or previously completed translation, which would reduce the
amount of lag time between licensing and publishing. The less work the
licensor has to do, the better.

-KKC, who just got back from the Circuit City clearance sale. F-Zero GX
and Transformers for $10 each, woo!
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BelPowerslave

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:16 pm
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> >What I think translators, who actually want to publish the games they
> >are translating, should *seriously* look into the Mega CD. At least a
> >*forth* of the MCD library are RPG's! Here's a list:
>
> A lot of those are licensed games. Good luck getting permission for 3x3 Eyes.
>

Agreed. Thing is, doesn't mean that fan-groups couldn't take a crack at it. Smile

>
> Taiwanese games are more likely to come from small companies that don't sell
> outside their home country, which it would be easier to get a license from.
> If you tried contacting, say, Capcom, they'd probably overcharge--and that
> assumes they'd even talk to you; it wouldn't be worth their time.
>
> I wonder how many games are realistically possible.
>

To actually acquire the licenses, not many...to just have fan-groups translate, a
lot. Smile I base this on allllllllllllllllll the Super Famicom RPG's that the fans
have translated, just seems like if they can do it for those games...if they got
motivated enough(and had the tools) they could do it for a few of these MD and
MCD games).

Bel
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:17 pm
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> Thank you, Bel, for taking the time to write that list of MD and MCD
> titles that should be translated!
>

Not a problem. Smile

>
> It was interesting to see some familiar names in the list, such as Sin
> Megamitensei, Cosmic Fantasy Stories, Dragon Slayer, and Record of
> Lodoss War!
>
> Sean

Yeah, it really is interesting to see a lot of familiar titles lost back
in the MD/MCD's libary. Really depressing too...when you know we'll most
likely *never* see them in English... Sad

Bel
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:17 pm
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In article <42C82BB0.277F519B DeleteThis @ev1.net>,
BelPowerslave <belpowerslave DeleteThis @ev1.net> wrote:
>>
>> It was interesting to see some familiar names in the list, such as Sin
>> Megamitensei, Cosmic Fantasy Stories, Dragon Slayer, and Record of
>> Lodoss War!
>
>Yeah, it really is interesting to see a lot of familiar titles lost back
>in the MD/MCD's libary. Really depressing too...when you know we'll most
>likely *never* see them in English... Sad

Is there any evidence that Sega is interested in mining their lesser-
known properties for the Ages 2500 series? With so many of the Sega CD
titles having been ressurected as Saturn and Playstation games, you'd
think there'd be enough interest (at least in Japan) to continue exploring
those titles.

-KKC, who also bought a copy of Rumble Roses. Wow, bouncy.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:46 am
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In article <42C82B6C.F3F67347.TakeThisOut@ev1.net>,
BelPowerslave <belpowerslave.TakeThisOut@ev1.net> wrote:
>> >What I think translators, who actually want to publish the games they
>> >are translating, should *seriously* look into the Mega CD. At least a
>> >*forth* of the MCD library are RPG's! Here's a list:
>> A lot of those are licensed games. Good luck getting permission for 3x3 Eyes.
>>
>Agreed. Thing is, doesn't mean that fan-groups couldn't take a crack at it. Smile

Yes, but that wouldn't be good if they wanted to publish the game....

>> I wonder how many games are realistically possible.
>To actually acquire the licenses, not many...to just have fan-groups
>translate, a
>lot. Smile I base this on allllllllllllllllll the Super Famicom RPG's that
>the fans
>have translated, just seems like if they can do it for those games...if they got
>motivated enough(and had the tools) they could do it for a few of these MD and
>MCD games).

Oh, I agree. I have no idea why the number of fan translations of Mega
Drive games is so pathetic. So far we have:
-- Phantasy Star 2 retranslation
-- Sonic Eraser
-- Wonderboy 6
And that's it. (And PS2 isn't worth it because it's full of bad grammar and
text problems.)
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:00 am
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I decided to go through this list myself, this time separating out the
licensed ones and big companies. Lacking a definition of "big company", I
decided a company is big if I can go to gamefaqs.com and find at least 15
titles developed or released by that company.

Licensed titles:
3X3 Eyes - Legend of the Divine Demon (MCD)
Fushigi no Umi no Nadia
Patlabor
Record of Lodoss War (MCD)
Shadowrun (MCD)
Syura no Mon
Yuu Yuu Hakusho Gaiden

Big companies:
Aisle Lord (MCD) (Wolf Team)
Alshark (MCD) (Polydor) (they only released one game, but we know very well
Polydor isn't a small company)
After Armageddon Gaiden (MCD) (Sega)
Arcus 1-2-3 (MCD) (Wolf Team)
Bahamut Senki (Sega)
Blue Almanac (Kodansha)
Burai (MCD) (Sega)
Cosmic Fantasy Stories (MCD) (Riot)
Daihoushinden (MCD) (couldn't find this but gamefaqs lists a Daifushinden by
Victor Interactive)
Death Bringer (MCD) (Riot)
Dragon Slayer (Sega)
Dragon Slayer 2 - Legend of Heroes (Sega)
Fhey Area (MCD) (Wolf Team)
Illusion City (MCD) (Microcabin)
Madou Monogatari I (Compile)
Maten Densetsu (couldn't find this but there is a SNES one by Takara)
Mega Schwartzschild (MCD) (Sega)
Ninja Burai Densetsu (Sega)
Nobunaga no Yabou Haouden (Koei)
Sin Megamitensei (MCD) (Sims)
Vixen 357 (Nihon Computer System)
Woodstock Funky Horror Band (MCD) (Sega)

Which leaves Beggar Prince and these six games as realistic license
possibilities:

Barver Battle Saga - The Space Fighter
Conquering the World 3
Fengshen Yingjiechuan
Nostalgia 1907 (MCD) (Takeru/Sur de Wave)
Psychic Detective Series Vol. 3: AYA (MCD) (Data West)
Psychic Detective Series Vol. 4: Orgel (MCD) (Data West)
Tiger Hunter Hero Novel
Ya-Se Chuan Shuo
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