im worried about vistas windows software

orange wrote:
> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord who
> fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a headache
> indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer need to be
> formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in diff new computer
> parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows vistas disc every time
> to have your computer working again, now how this gonna be good ? is it
> true. w e in the sims community have to format
> our computer every so often . with windows xp one can reuse it
> about 5 time or so? im feeling rather shocked. so a new computer better
> not need any upgrades aand so , it will
> cost money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna
> cost me aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got
> me a new dell computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange

It's not worrying me. I'm not going to buy it in the first place. <g>

Jeanie
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but this i forget to mention . what if the use once only for windows
vistas is hacked. meaning the user of a windows vistas can use it over and
over . whoa. that will be some cottage industry. well and there another
thing . use something other than windows. there something called linphear
using linux codes. one can buy it and my landlord said it work nice. it
way faster not so much stuff running in background . so it all faster even
loading webpages. ugh.it make my head hurts to think of all this . now what
im supposed to do. i hope the replacement disc prices will be lowered . but
we wil have to wait and see. wow. to think i was so happy in gettign my new
computer . orange
"orange" <mamx RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord who
> fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a headache
> indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer need to be
> formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in diff new computer
> parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows vistas disc every time
> to have your computer working again, now how this gonna be good ? is it
> true. w e in the sims community have to format our computer every so often
> . with windows xp one can reuse it about 5 time or so? im feeling
> rather shocked.
> so a new computer better not need any upgrades aand so , it will cost
> money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna cost me
> aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got me a new dell
> computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>
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oh kat they gonna stop making xp windows i thought?
"kat" <kat DeleteThis @ntalk.org> wrote in message
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> In news:RQzph.43624$cz.638284@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca,
> orange <mamx DeleteThis @hotmail.com> said
>> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord who
>> fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a headache
>> indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer need to be
>> formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in diff new computer
>> parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows vistas disc every time
>> to have your computer working again, now how this gonna be good ? is it
>> true. w e in the sims community have to format
>> our computer every so often . with windows xp one can reuse it
>> about 5 time or so? im feeling rather shocked. so a new computer better
>> not need any upgrades aand so , it will
>> cost money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna
>> cost me aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got
>> me a new dell computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>
> Don't install it - stick to XP.
>
>
> --
> kat
> >^..^<
>
 >> Stay informed about: im worried about vistas windows software 

how can we not get it first place ? wont we have to at some time. and xp
windows only good for so many reinstall and then one must buy new xp windows
too. that gonna go exinct isnt it? have so much to learn i guess. tiresome
but i must .
"Jeanie" <Nobody RemoveThis @home.com> wrote in message
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> orange wrote:
>> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord who
>> fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a headache
>> indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer need to be
>> formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in diff new computer
>> parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows vistas disc every time
>> to have your computer working again, now how this gonna be good ? is it
>> true. w e in the sims community have to format
>> our computer every so often . with windows xp one can reuse it
>> about 5 time or so? im feeling rather shocked. so a new computer better
>> not need any upgrades aand so , it will
>> cost money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna
>> cost me aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got
>> me a new dell computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>
> It's not worrying me. I'm not going to buy it in the first place. <g>
>
> Jeanie
>
 >> Stay informed about: im worried about vistas windows software 

"orange" <mamx.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> but this i forget to mention . what if the use once only for windows
> vistas is hacked. meaning the user of a windows vistas can use it over
> and over . whoa. that will be some cottage industry. well and there
> another thing . use something other than windows. there something called
> linphear using linux codes. one can buy it and my landlord said it work
> nice. it way faster not so much stuff running in background . so it all
> faster even loading webpages. ugh.it make my head hurts to think of all
> this . now what im supposed to do. i hope the replacement disc prices
> will be lowered . but we wil have to wait and see. wow. to think i was so
> happy in gettign my new computer . orange

If you get a hacked version then you can't get any of the security updates
or other updates. There are hacked versions of XP out there but due to the
system identification requirement for updates, including basic stuff like
DirectX, machines with the hacked/pirated version can't access the updates
as they will be identified as not original.

As for Linux, I've heard it's great, way faster than Windoze (yes, I spelled
that correctly!). I'm just not au fait with using Linux and wouldn't dare
install it on my "main" machine unless I really knew what I was doing. Plus
a lot of off-the-shelf programmes don't run in Linux and you have to go to a
fair bit of trouble to get them to run. I guess there's a whole community
out there working to make Linux run these programmes but I'm just not enough
of a geek to go to the trouble. I'd love to get rid of M$ on my machine,
though, and thumb my nose at them...

Dell sounds pretty proprietary. When you bought your PC they should have
given you an XP disk - after all, you now own the machine and have licence
to use any of the software installed, so you should be able to re-install
Windows without having to go to Dell to do it. And before you run off
installing a bought non-Windows OS on your new PC, you should check with
Dell just how much of your machine they have locked up. You might find that
you are now in eternal servitude to Dell when it comes to upgrading and
updating your machine. Which is why I buy PCs from little computer stores,
where the owner builds it to my specs, I get disks for any of the software
installed and still end up paying less than I would getting the same thing
from Dell. And in Australia you have to pay a standard $99 delivery fee even
if you pick it up from them, no "delivery" involved!

Engram (as you can tell I'm not too impressed with Dell!)
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To my knowledge XP has no limits on reinstalls, it just isn't feasible
considering the problems, I've seen people have with the verification
process, alone.
Take me, as an example, I installed XP about 3 years ago, now, and had to
authenticate.
I had to reinstall twice over the next 9 months after replacing the
motherboard and cpu after they were hit by lightening. Re-Authenticating
twice.
A couple months later the hard drive went bad, being in denial, I tried to
"fix" the drive and reinstalled xp again. Re-Authenticating again.
I was forced to admit defeat and installed an old back-up drive ...... and
of course reinstalled xp and Re-Authenticated.
A month later a got a shiny new 100gb hd and ...... reinstalled xp and
Re-Authenticated.
A couple months later my video card went bad, so I bought an ATI card .....
and Re-Authenticated
The ATI card was bad so I traded it in for a different ATI card (stupid
store only had ATI's in stock, I hate ATI's) ........ and Re-Authenticated.
That card was bad so I demanded a refund ..... got store credit instead ....
used for a new D:\ drive and got an inexpensive GeForce MX 420 somwhere else
...... and Re-Authenticated.
A year later I used some gift cards i was given and upgraded my video card
again ...and Re-Authenticated.
A couple months later I upgraded my cd-rw to a dvd-rw ...and
Re-Authenticated
and Re-Authenticated
and Re-Authenticated
and Re-Authenticated
and Re-Authenticated
Called Microsoft and had them walk me thru getting a clean Re-Authenticated
( corrupt aunthentication files were being reused by xp instead of being
replaced)
and Re-Authenticated twice more to finnish the proccess.

You see, unless you call microsoft and tell them , i doubt they can tell the
difference between that and Re-Authenticating because of hardware changes.
According to microsoft's help newsgroup, the only limitations are that you
need 1 license for each maching xp is on, and if you change more than 1/3 of
your machines hardware
over a 3 month period, then you'll have to Re-Authenticate by phone instead
of via the internet.

Microsoft can't limit the number of reinstalls, they'd have to much fallout
from such a tactic.
I had and used windows 95 for nearly 10 years. Well past the time microsoft
ceased to support it.
I used windows 98 for nearly 3 years after they ceased support for it.
The only downfall to doing so is that there were no more "bug" or "security"
fixes.

So feel free to use XP for another 20 years if it suites your needs.




"orange" <mamx RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> how can we not get it first place ? wont we have to at some time. and
> xp windows only good for so many reinstall and then one must buy new xp
> windows too. that gonna go exinct isnt it? have so much to learn i
> guess. tiresome but i must .
> "Jeanie" <Nobody RemoveThis @home.com> wrote in message
> news:24Aph.6305$Mf2.1791@trndny01...
>> orange wrote:
>>> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord who
>>> fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a headache
>>> indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer need to be
>>> formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in diff new computer
>>> parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows vistas disc every time
>>> to have your computer working again, now how this gonna be good ? is it
>>> true. w e in the sims community have to format
>>> our computer every so often . with windows xp one can reuse it
>>> about 5 time or so? im feeling rather shocked. so a new computer
>>> better not need any upgrades aand so , it will
>>> cost money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna
>>> cost me aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got
>>> me a new dell computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>>
>> It's not worrying me. I'm not going to buy it in the first place. <g>
>>
>> Jeanie
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: im worried about vistas windows software 

"Engram" <engram_au DeleteThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "orange" <mamx DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XjAph.43648$cz.638631@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> but this i forget to mention . what if the use once only for windows
>> vistas is hacked. meaning the user of a windows vistas can use it over
>> and over . whoa. that will be some cottage industry. well and there
>> another thing . use something other than windows. there something called
>> linphear using linux codes. one can buy it and my landlord said it work
>> nice. it way faster not so much stuff running in background . so it all
>> faster even loading webpages. ugh.it make my head hurts to think of all
>> this . now what im supposed to do. i hope the replacement disc prices
>> will be lowered . but we wil have to wait and see. wow. to think i was
>> so happy in gettign my new computer . orange
>
> If you get a hacked version then you can't get any of the security updates
> or other updates. There are hacked versions of XP out there but due to the
> system identification requirement for updates, including basic stuff like
> DirectX, machines with the hacked/pirated version can't access the updates
> as they will be identified as not original.
>
> As for Linux, I've heard it's great, way faster than Windoze (yes, I
> spelled that correctly!). I'm just not au fait with using Linux and
> wouldn't dare install it on my "main" machine unless I really knew what I
> was doing. Plus a lot of off-the-shelf programmes don't run in Linux and
> you have to go to a fair bit of trouble to get them to run. I guess
> there's a whole community out there working to make Linux run these
> programmes but I'm just not enough of a geek to go to the trouble. I'd
> love to get rid of M$ on my machine, though, and thumb my nose at them...
>
> Dell sounds pretty proprietary. When you bought your PC they should have
> given you an XP disk - after all, you now own the machine and have licence
> to use any of the software installed, so you should be able to re-install
> Windows without having to go to Dell to do it. And before you run off
> installing a bought non-Windows OS on your new PC, you should check with
> Dell just how much of your machine they have locked up. You might find
> that you are now in eternal servitude to Dell when it comes to upgrading
> and updating your machine. Which is why I buy PCs from little computer
> stores, where the owner builds it to my specs, I get disks for any of the
> software installed and still end up paying less than I would getting the
> same thing from Dell. And in Australia you have to pay a standard $99
> delivery fee even if you pick it up from them, no "delivery" involved!
>
> Engram (as you can tell I'm not too impressed with Dell!)

Dell will supply recover disks, for a fee, but other than that, dell
computers have a hidden partition with
with restoration info buried on it.
Which means that 1 little hdd crash can easily scratch your ability to
restore the system to the factory defaults,
unless you got a disk from them.
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"orange" <mamx DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord who
> fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a headache
> indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer need to be
> formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in diff new computer
> parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows vistas disc every time
> to have your computer working again, now how this gonna be good ? is it
> true. w e in the sims community have to format our computer every so often
> . with windows xp one can reuse it about 5 time or so? im feeling
> rather shocked.
> so a new computer better not need any upgrades aand so , it will cost
> money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna cost me
> aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got me a new dell
> computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>

I'm planning on getting a new computer this year and I'm thinking I'll get
Windows Media Center Edition for an OS. I don't intend to ever get Vista! I
have 2 Dells and they both came with an XP disc. I didn't realize e-machines
were a Gateway product, but I've been looking at Gateway and HP for my new
system. While I haven't had any major problems with my Dells, I did hear
that their newer machines were more proprietary, so I won't be considering
them.

Me Marie
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orange wrote:
> oh kat they gonna stop making xp windows i thought?

What difference will that make if you already own it? Didn't you just buy a
computer with XP on it? Did it come with a restore disk? I wouldn't worry
about it if it did. You're all set.

Jeanie

> "kat" <kat RemoveThis @ntalk.org> wrote in message
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>> In news:RQzph.43624$cz.638284@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca,
>> orange <mamx RemoveThis @hotmail.com> said
>>> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord
>>> who fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a
>>> headache indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer
>>> need to be formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in
>>> diff new computer parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows
>>> vistas disc every time to have your computer working again, now how
>>> this gonna be good ? is it true. w e in the sims community have to
>>> format our computer every so often . with windows xp one can reuse it
>>> about 5 time or so? im feeling rather shocked. so a new computer
>>> better not need any upgrades aand so , it will
>>> cost money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna
>>> cost me aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got
>>> me a new dell computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>>
>> Don't install it - stick to XP.
>>
>>
>> --
>> kat
>> >^..^<
 >> Stay informed about: im worried about vistas windows software 

orange wrote:
> how can we not get it first place ? wont we have to at some time.
> and xp windows only good for so many reinstall and then one must buy
> new xp windows too. that gonna go exinct isnt it? have so much to
> learn i guess. tiresome but i must .

I've never heard of such a thing, orange. If you have XP on your computer
there is absolutely no need to upgrade to Vista unless you just want to.
I've reinstalled XP on this computer at least five or six times in the past
five years. I've never heard that it's only good for so many installs.
That's absurd. Eventually, I suppose software will change and begin to need
Vistas to run properly. Just as it's nearly impossible to buy new software
made to run on Windows 3.1 or 95. When and if that happens we'll all have
to upgrade if we want to use the new software, but I don't expect that to
happen for at least another 5 or 10 years.

Jeanie

> "Jeanie" <Nobody.RemoveThis@home.com> wrote in message
> news:24Aph.6305$Mf2.1791@trndny01...
>> orange wrote:
>>> it the new window xp or rather windows vistas. wow. my landlord
>>> who fixed makes computer was tellign me about it. it gonna be a
>>> headache indeed. if you have windows vistas. and the computer
>>> need to be formatted or fixed or upgrade video card or put in
>>> diff new computer parts , etc. you will have to buy a new windows
>>> vistas disc every time to have your computer working again, now how
>>> this gonna be good ? is it true. w e in the sims community have to
>>> format our computer every so often . with windows xp one can reuse it
>>> about 5 time or so? im feeling rather shocked. so a new computer
>>> better not need any upgrades aand so , it will
>>> cost money to buy new windows vistas. oh man. my sims are gonna
>>> cost me aretn they. and it coming out in feb 2007. and here i got
>>> me a new dell computer through aliant telephone company sigh. orange
>>
>> It's not worrying me. I'm not going to buy it in the first place. <g>
>> Jeanie
 >> Stay informed about: im worried about vistas windows software 

On Jan 12, 1:57 am, "Engram" <engram....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "orange" <m....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:XjAph.43648$cz.638631@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>
> > but this i forget to mention . what if the use once only for windows
> > vistas is hacked. meaning the user of a windows vistas can use it over
> > and over . whoa. that will be some cottage industry. well and there
> > another thing . use something other than windows. there something called
> > linphear using linux codes. one can buy it and my landlord said it work
> > nice. it way faster not so much stuff running in background . so it all
> > faster even loading webpages. ugh.it make my head hurts to think of all
> > this . now what im supposed to do. i hope the replacement disc prices
> > will be lowered . but we wil have to wait and see. wow. to think i was so
> > happy in gettign my new computer . orangeIf you get a hacked version then you can't get any of the security updates
> or other updates. There are hacked versions of XP out there but due to the
> system identification requirement for updates, including basic stuff like
> DirectX, machines with the hacked/pirated version can't access the updates
> as they will be identified as not original.
>
> As for Linux, I've heard it's great, way faster than Windoze (yes, I spelled
> that correctly!). I'm just not au fait with using Linux and wouldn't dare
> install it on my "main" machine unless I really knew what I was doing. Plus
> a lot of off-the-shelf programmes don't run in Linux and you have to go to a
> fair bit of trouble to get them to run. I guess there's a whole community
> out there working to make Linux run these programmes but I'm just not enough
> of a geek to go to the trouble. I'd love to get rid of M$ on my machine,
> though, and thumb my nose at them...
>
> Dell sounds pretty proprietary. When you bought your PC they should have
> given you an XP disk - after all, you now own the machine and have licence
> to use any of the software installed, so you should be able to re-install
> Windows without having to go to Dell to do it. And before you run off
> installing a bought non-Windows OS on your new PC, you should check with
> Dell just how much of your machine they have locked up. You might find that
> you are now in eternal servitude to Dell when it comes to upgrading and
> updating your machine. Which is why I buy PCs from little computer stores,
> where the owner builds it to my specs, I get disks for any of the software
> installed and still end up paying less than I would getting the same thing
> from Dell. And in Australia you have to pay a standard $99 delivery fee even
> if you pick it up from them, no "delivery" involved!
>
> Engram (as you can tell I'm not too impressed with Dell!)

This is not completely accurate; even if you have a hacked (or non
hacked but wrongly identified, which is very common; Microsoft's
homepage has an error rate of about 25% in missidentifying bought
non-hacked Windows XP as pirated) you will still access the IMPORTANT
updates (security updates) by enabling automatic updates. MS has
decided to let this because they do not want to be blamed for "letting"
viruses spread easily on Windows XP.
As for a "new" windows disc, that is not correct either; if your
Windows XP has been used too many times, you call MS, they give you a
new license# for free. You can reinstall it as much as you want.

Also, Windows XP will be supported to at least 2011, probably 2012;
it's Windows 2000 that will stop being supported by the end of 2008.
They will stop SELLING Windows XP this year.

I will not upgrade either, btw.
/Stefan
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On Jan 12, 9:53 am, "kat" <k....TakeThisOut@ntalk.org> wrote:
> Innews:D_Bph.6359$Mf2.841@trndny01,
> Jeanie <Nob....TakeThisOut@home.com> said
>
>
>
> > orange wrote:
> >> how can we not get it first place ? wont we have to at some time.
> >> and xp windows only good for so many reinstall and then one must buy
> >> new xp windows too. that gonna go exinct isnt it? have so much to
> >> learn i guess. tiresome but i must .
>
> > I've never heard of such a thing, orange. If you have XP on your
> > computer there is absolutely no need to upgrade to Vista unless you
> > just want to. I've reinstalled XP on this computer at least five or
> > six times in the past five years. I've never heard that it's only
> > good for so many installs. That's absurd. Eventually, I suppose
> > software will change and begin to need Vistas to run properly. Just
> > as it's nearly impossible to buy new software made to run on Windows
> > 3.1 or 95. When and if that happens we'll all have to upgrade if we
> > want to use the new software, but I don't expect that to happen for
> > at least another 5 or 10 years.I don't know how many times XP can be reinstalled, but I am pretty sure my
> husband has had to call to get a new validation or something. They are
> trying to prevent one copy being installed on several different computers,
> and certainly make it more difficult at some point.
>
> --
> kat
> >^..^<

Exactly. Of course if you have a hacked version you can't do that, but
then I imagine they are hacked to allow unlimited installs, too.
(Personally I do not have that problem since I have a Corporate
license, which means it can be installed unlimited times, and no need
for activation).

/Stefan
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