houses/imperial/church faction quests?

Quoth The Raven; Greg Johnson <greg.gsj.RemoveThis@gmail.com> in
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> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:12:36 +1000, "Highlandish"
> <ckreskay_CURSEING.RemoveThis@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>morrowind allowed you to join either the church or imperial factions
>>and do their quest, and join the great houses of the elven clans,
>>where are tehy in cryodill?
>
> Morrowind allowed you to either join the Temple, which was Morrowind's
> own religion and thus not found anywhere else, or become a lay
> member(with very limited advancement) of the Imperial Cult, which is
> the empire's official religion and needed help because of the local
> competition with the Temple. Cyrodiil is the centre of the empire, and
> the Imperial Cult has no particular competition - you see its temples
> all over the place. They generally don't offer any quests because they
> usually don't need anything done for them.
> I understand that the developers originally planned to have a joinable
> Cult faction, but dropped it quite early in development.
>
> As for the dunmer Great Houses, they are only in Morrowind. In fact,
> you encounter several people glad to get away from them. I imagine
> the other provinces have their own factions, but Cyrodiil is more
> unified, and its politics take place in other ways.

so... less quests then? has there been some sort of replacement idea?

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 >> Stay informed about: houses/imperial/church faction quests? 

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:44:29 +1000, "Highlandish"
<ckreskay_CURSEING.DeleteThis@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>so... less quests then? has there been some sort of replacement idea?

Morrowind had 11 joinable factions; 3 Great Houses(mutually exclusive),
3 Imperial Guilds, 1 native guild, 2 churches, the Imperial Legions and
the Blades. Just like Oblivion, the Blades were part of the main quest
and thus difficult to avoid. There were also 2 factions that were
not-quite-joinable, the Imperial Excise officers and the Twin Lamps. I
can't say if either was originally intended to be joinable.

Oblivion has 6 full factions; the 3 guilds, the Dark Brotherhood, the
Blades, and the Arena. There are also a couple of things that show up in
the faction list, but don't really have a quest structure. So far my
character has been named a member of two different knightly orders and
an association of vampire hunters. Each of the full factions has a set
of quests that's perhaps a little bigger than the sets in Morrowind
were. However, there seem to be far more independent quests not
belonging to a faction.

It seems to me that the total number of quests in Oblivion is slightly
lower, but each quest tends to be more complex, for a greater amount of
time spent questing than in Morrowind.
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 >> Stay informed about: houses/imperial/church faction quests? 

"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING.DeleteThis@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> so... less quests then? has there been some sort of replacement idea?
>

Less quests, and much shorter, linears ones at that (it's rare to find a
quest in Oblivion that has more than one option to finish it. They exist,
but there don't seem to be many). But bear in mind, they probably spent all
their time working on the graphics.
 >> Stay informed about: houses/imperial/church faction quests? 

I don't miss the great houses, as they were all run by dunmer who thought
they were the supreme race and enslaved khajiit and argonians... well some
didn't practice this, but only Hlaalu I think. House Indoril wasn't in the
game, but they were the biggest practioners of slavery, and that was only to
spite the Empire.

But I do miss the church faction. It feels dumb to play as a monk or a
healer, when there is no faction that you'll fit into.

> Morrowind allowed you to either join the Temple, which was Morrowind's
> own religion and thus not found anywhere else, or become a lay
> member(with very limited advancement) of the Imperial Cult, which is the
> empire's official religion and needed help because of the local
> competition with the Temple. Cyrodiil is the centre of the empire, and
> the Imperial Cult has no particular competition - you see its temples
> all over the place. They generally don't offer any quests because they
> usually don't need anything done for them.
> I understand that the developers originally planned to have a joinable
> Cult faction, but dropped it quite early in development.
>
> As for the dunmer Great Houses, they are only in Morrowind. In fact, you
> encounter several people glad to get away from them. I imagine the other
> provinces have their own factions, but Cyrodiil is more unified, and its
> politics take place in other ways.
>
>
> --
> Greg Johnson
>
 >> Stay informed about: houses/imperial/church faction quests?