I hope they modify this quest....

External Since: Apr 17, 2007 Posts: 1253

On Nov 19, 1:54 am, ASKF <allan.kiiler....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 3:45 pm, BLMX <junkbin5....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > While my character has killed thousands of mobs, NPCs,
> > > and Horde players, this made my skin crawl. Wasn't
> > > the Alliance the Good Guys? Wasn't Vamoose a
> > > Paladin? I came within an inch of dropping the
>
> > It's a lot more complicated than good vs. bad. Consider the lore from
> > Thrall's perspective... he was/is certainly the good guy.
>
> Seen from the perspective of the Trolls Alliance is definitly the bad
> guys, and from a neutral lore perspective I'll place the High Elves
> and Humans as bad too.
>
> The continent of Azeroth (before the rip) was the home of the Trolls
> and they had a great civilization. Then came the High Elves, from
> where is disputed. They might be a faction of the Trolls changed by
> magic, but most excisting tribes of Trolls and Elves refuses this. The
> Elves wanted more land so they went to war with the Trolls. During
> this and several following wars they were tapping more and more magic
> energy from the Magic Node, and this eventually attracted the Scourge.
> They also caused the world to rip apart, so the huge continent of
> Azeroth ended up as two continents.
>
> The Scourge drove the Humans from their native home in Northrend, and
> the Elves found an alliance partner, since both needed to conqour new
> land from the Trolls.
>
> When some of the Orcs and Undeads broke free of the Scourges control,
> they formed an alliance to fight the Scourge together, but the Elves
> and Humans didn't seem to understand this. Instead they saw them as
> evil beings (since they had served the Scourge), and refused the help
> them when they were seeking refuge, and started fighting them too.
>
> This made Thrall form an alliance with the Trolls, because they were
> too few to fight two battles at once. The Alliance put pressure on
> both the Dwarves and the Gnomes to join ranks with them, though both
> factions wanted to stay neutral, and the Taureens was caught in the
> middle, but choose to join ranks with the Horde, because their main
> goal was to fight the Scourge.
>
> The Blood Elves joined the Horde, after they were betrayed by the
> Humans, and the Drenai doesn't fit the old lore at all.
>
> The Alliance is basicly all about conquest of land, while the Horde is
> fighting the scourge and surviving the aggressions of the Alliance.
>
> The evil of the Undeads is due to their concept, where the goal
> justifies the means.
> The Blood Elves are addicted to magic, and have no wish to give it up,
> although they know their use of Arcane magic is tearing the world
> apart.
>
> If I should point out some evil factions, it would be all the Elves
> and Humans, but the Humans was driven from their land just as the Orcs
> can't get back to their home world, and are basicly trying to
> establish a new home; thus they can partly be justified.
>
> There are a lot more to the lore, and I've just tried to simplify it
> as much as I can.

While at the same time omitting some aspects of lore, and changing
other aspects all together.

External Since: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 348

On Nov 19, 7:38 am, lcpltom <lcpl....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> While at the same time omitting some aspects of lore, and changing
> other aspects all together.

You caught that too Smile

. I was wondering if anyone else would find it
odd that the Scourge invasion was placed BEFORE the war between the
humans and the orcs in the above summary Smile

.

Also questioning where the high elves came from - we KNOW where they
came from. They came from Night Elves. The real question (and the
possibility of coming from an "evolved" tribe of trolls) applies to
the Night Elves themselves, not High Elves (at least not directly).

Also, the Orcs were never under the control of the Scourge - they were
originally under the control of the Burning Legion, which is a demonic
rather than undead faction. They also poured through the Dark Portal
making horrible and pointless war against all of humanity for DECADES
before the Scourge or Thrall were even in the picture.

The NEW Orcs under Thrall's leadership are not truly evil. The OLD
Orcs (essentially everything before Warcraft III) were truly wicked
beings. And they made their pact with the trolls (and even Ogres for a
time) prior to Warcraft III.

Mike