First hints of Wii-Trouble:

I've been saying this for months. The Wiimote is basically going to be fun
for 30 minutes and only for 30 minutes. After that, people will be tired of
standing around moving their arms about and being forced to move as much as
they are. Let's face it, video games are a lazy hobby. You can't expect lazy
people to want to be very physical every time they play.

Andre

"Jordan" <lundj DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>A very nice (and long) review of the Wii, but there are few things that
> jumped out at me:
>
> http://www.2old2play.com/News/2old2play_Hands_on_Review_of_the_Wii
>
> "To begin, let us all say hello to the 'Jaggies' of previous consoles."
>
> "games that seemed better fit for a controller, felt forced and
> awkward. Ported games like Madden, Marvel Ultimate Alliance or even
> first party games like Zelda had the most awkward gameplay
> experiences."
>
> "You must point the controller at the sensor bar and not the TV and I
> found myself struggling to locate my center. Taller people gaming with
> a low sensor bar will make things much harder because you must turn
> your wrists down in order to get a center spot on the monitor."
>
> "Marvel Ultimate Alliance was the most disappointing display at the
> party. I'm sure this game would be perfect with a normal controller,
> but with the wiimote it was a disaster."
>
> Don't get me wrong, he has good stuff to say too... but this is the
> first time I've seen anyone say anything other than glowing comments
> about the Wii.
>
> - Jordan
>
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* Andre Matuch wrote in alt.games.video.xbox:

> Dude, I know that. However, what I am saying is that a lot of people
> HAD to resort to the classic controls despite the fact that the new
> controls are better and a lot more immersive. People are VERY VERY
> VERY VERY VERY resistant to change.

From what I have seen most games DESIGNED for the motion control while
difficult to get used to, where the desired method of control. Games that
have been 'retrofittted' to use Motion control do so poorly and so the
users were not as happy.

> People love new technology, but
> take a while to adopt it. It took a while for VHS to become popular
> because people were used to going to the theaters.

THe switch was made becauwe of pRon not because people got sick of going to
the movies, well that and the fact that the original players came down in
price from $1000 for the original units.

> People took long to
> adopt DVD because they were used to VHS' and already had the
> equipment.

Not to mention the NEW DVD players were expensive.

> People are resistant to HDTV despite the fact that it's
> awesome because, in some cases, they can't see the difference despite
> the fact that it's right there.

THe difference is not worth the price espcially if my current TV's work
fine and there is limited content available. If you arent a sports fan
there is little to gain from the switch right now.

>
> In other words, it doesn't matter how great a technology is, there's
> always a bunch of people right there who will find something negative
> to say about it. HD DVD and Bluray are both great, 1080p and 1080i are
> both gorgeous,

But the cost does not justify the difference, especailly if you dont have a
TV that can display 1080p and since standard DVD's are only about 550p...

> the PS3 and the 360 are both awesome machines but
> people are resisting buying into even the consoles because what they
> already have is 'good enough.'

No, its because Game Selection for the 360 sucks, MS is waiting to release
games to see what happens with the other consoles. paying $10 more for Lego
Star wars on the $360 when I can buy it for my PS2 and it looks EXACTLY the
same gives me no real reason to spend the extra money (even though I did)

> Control-wise, there is NOTHING wrong
> with using a traditional joypad and Nintendo is trying to convince
> people to change the way they play. I wish them good luck and I hope
> they succeed, but I know that people simply can't take such a dramatic
> change so abruptly.

I think you are wrong, the gaming public is ready for a change and if done
correctly Nintendo will will hearts with this new innovation, they have
already won mine, I cant wait for this console.

--
David
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Jonah Falcon <jonahnynla.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:

> welllll... using it like a sword, a gun, a tennis racket, are all fine. They
> just can't, say, do throwing a football with it.

Why not? Just make a football-shaped pillow with a pocket so you can
insert the WiiMote, and then just throw it around the living room.

If the ball goes too low, that's a fumble/tackle/incomplete pass. This
way, you and your friend can get into the spirit of things by playing the
21st century version of "indoor sports" - complete with your
spouse/girlfriend to play the role of your mother by yelling "No
rough-housing in the house!" after you miss a tackle, and take out the
china cabinet. Whee!

And just think of the remake of the SNES classic Super Dodgeball! Again,
using the pillow idea, whip the WiiMote at your pal to score points.
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"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs.RemoveThis@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
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> Jonah Falcon <jonahnynla.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > welllll... using it like a sword, a gun, a tennis racket, are all fine.
They
> > just can't, say, do throwing a football with it.
>
> Why not? Just make a football-shaped pillow with a pocket so you can
> insert the WiiMote, and then just throw it around the living room.
>
> If the ball goes too low, that's a fumble/tackle/incomplete pass. This
> way, you and your friend can get into the spirit of things by playing the
> 21st century version of "indoor sports" - complete with your
> spouse/girlfriend to play the role of your mother by yelling "No
> rough-housing in the house!" after you miss a tackle, and take out the
> china cabinet. Whee!
>
> And just think of the remake of the SNES classic Super Dodgeball! Again,
> using the pillow idea, whip the WiiMote at your pal to score points.

That gives me an idea. Why not drop the Wiimote, leave the television
behind, go outside, and throw a ball around? No worries about pointing at
the bar, lag times, batteries, wireless interference, etc. Just pure
sports!

On second thought, that would never catch on...
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Android wrote:
> "Doug Jacobs" <djacobs.TakeThisOut@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
> news:12jahrqcjjd6d40@corp.supernews.com...
> > Jonah Falcon <jonahnynla.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > > welllll... using it like a sword, a gun, a tennis racket, are all fine.
> They
> > > just can't, say, do throwing a football with it.
> >
> > Why not? Just make a football-shaped pillow with a pocket so you can
> > insert the WiiMote, and then just throw it around the living room.
> >
> > If the ball goes too low, that's a fumble/tackle/incomplete pass. This
> > way, you and your friend can get into the spirit of things by playing the
> > 21st century version of "indoor sports" - complete with your
> > spouse/girlfriend to play the role of your mother by yelling "No
> > rough-housing in the house!" after you miss a tackle, and take out the
> > china cabinet. Whee!
> >
> > And just think of the remake of the SNES classic Super Dodgeball! Again,
> > using the pillow idea, whip the WiiMote at your pal to score points.
>
> That gives me an idea. Why not drop the Wiimote, leave the television
> behind, go outside, and throw a ball around? No worries about pointing at
> the bar, lag times, batteries, wireless interference, etc. Just pure
> sports!
>
> On second thought, that would never catch on... Not with the "Big Mac"generation,people are too fat and lazy for that,the remote is the workout choice for most people today....hey wait a minute:-]
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Andre Matuch wrote:
> Dude, I know that. However, what I am saying is that a lot of people HAD to
> resort to the classic controls despite the fact that the new controls are
> better and a lot more immersive.


ok good. One thing I like about the classic controls is that you can
still use
the shooting, deking and passing with the stick.
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"Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Andre Matuch wrote:
>> Dude, I know that. However, what I am saying is that a lot of people HAD
>> to resort to the classic controls despite the fact that the new controls
>> are better and a lot more immersive.
>
>
> ok good. One thing I like about the classic controls is that you can
> still use
> the shooting, deking and passing with the stick.

Best of both worlds!
That is what I use (classic controls).
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