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Mike Cox

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:58 am
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> "von Schmidt" <von_schmidt DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 2, 11:34 pm, "Mike Cox" <n0_spamTHX_sch-mich... DeleteThis @vom.com> wrote:
>> <eddyster... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike,
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> What makes SB-SAW your contender of the year?
>
Oh and for about $30 on the web, you can't go wrong.

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:52 am
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On Jan 3, 4:56 pm, "Mike Cox" <n0_spamTHX_sch-mich... RemoveThis @vom.com> wrote:
> "von Schmidt" <von_schm... RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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> news:5cb8c9a3-d5c5-45ac-b959-3a3488531c49@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 2, 11:34 pm, "Mike Cox" <n0_spamTHX_sch-mich... RemoveThis @vom.com> wrote:
> A range of scenarios (size, length), competitive PBEM play, decent AI
(SNIP)
and I was co designer
> for the scenarios and did the leg work on the vehicle and weapons database..
> (The other official designer was Ozgur Budak.)
>
> Told you I opted for the homer route. ;^)
>
> Mike

Fair enough. Nothing wrong with some selfpromotion Wink

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eddysterckx

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:53 am
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On 3 jan, 18:52, von Schmidt <von_schm....TakeThisOut@mail.com> wrote:
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> Fair enough. Nothing wrong with some selfpromotion Wink

It's not self promotion, it's wargame promotion to an audience which
comes here to get info about wargames - a perfect match.

.... and it would be a Good Thing (tm) if more people did that - what's
the point in pouring your heart and soul into a wargame design and
then *not* letting those interested in wargames know about it ?

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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eddysterckx

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:00 am
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On 3 jan, 17:58, "Mike Cox" <n0_spamTHX_sch-mich....TakeThisOut@vom.com> wrote:

> That and I was co designer
> for the scenarios and did the leg work on the vehicle and weapons database.

> Told you I opted for the homer route. ;^)

That's not the Homer route - that's the long, steep and winding route
with lots of roadblocks and an avalanche or two to boot. I'm just a
beta bunny who plays around with what's there, I don't design stuff,
and when I see how much hard work it takes these scenario/map creation
guys to make these things I sometimes feel sorry for them if I have to
give my straight and harsh opinion about some of their design choices.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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BasKa

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(Msg. 65) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:12 pm
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My list:

1. Advanced Tactics;
2. Making History: the Calm and the Storm;
3. Carriers at War;

Bas Kreuger
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Graham Thurlwell

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(Msg. 66) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:25 pm
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On the 2 Jan 2008, ERutins <erikr DeleteThis @matrixgames.com> wrote:


>> The price of £40 I quoted in my other post is the final total price I
>> paid but that was several months ago. Is that £29.99 inclusive or
>> exclusive of VAT?

> Exclusive - the VAT varies by country and since we don't have a single
> store per country, we have to adjust the price based on VAT once the
> customer tells us which country they are in. Before final checkout,
> the total including VAT is displayed.

I know it does mention it in the store FAQ, but it would probably be
helpful if "exclusive of VAT" appeared next to the prices quoted on
the site.

> Unfortunately, all we can do is set our prices for the UK the same in
> equivalent value to our US prices, we can't lower your taxes. Wink

I demand a patch to fix this!!! Wink

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kev9000

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(Msg. 67) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:22 pm
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> The problem is that new wargame developers are usually doing the
> development thing in their spare time and far away from any people who
> could help them with their design - or as the developer would call
> it : "mess with his baby".
>
> For instance : I've been pestering Mr. Kreuzer in here to present his
> Afrika Korps game to a publisher - any publisher - to get some
> assistance and guiding but so far he feels reluctant to do so for
> (probably) a good number of reasons, but most likely also because he
> wants to see if he can go it alone.


Maybe publishers should make some resources/advice available to
devs on a no-commitment basis. I know some do in some cases,
but others won't talk to anybody without a solid alpha.
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:32 pm
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And the jury voted like this:

1st place Theatre of War
2nd place Advanced Tactics
3rd place Europa Universalis 3: Napoleon's Ambition (Silent Hunter 4 is a
wargame and Paradox titles aren't?)

Stinker of the year: Commander: Stinker at War (-50 points)
Smile))


Mario
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(Msg. 69) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:13 am
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On 5 jan, 21:32, "Bloodstar" <george.washing....RemoveThis@microsoft.com> wrote:
> And the jury voted like this:
>
> 1st place Theatre of War
> 2nd place Advanced Tactics
> 3rd place Europa Universalis 3: Napoleon's Ambition (Silent Hunter 4 is a
> wargame and Paradox titles aren't?)

My bad - I didn't realize it was out already.

> Stinker of the year: Commander: Stinker at War (-50 points)

Yeah, that'll work Smile

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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Oleg Mastruko

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(Msg. 70) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:53 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:32:42 +0100, "Bloodstar"
<george.washington DeleteThis @microsoft.com> wrote:

>Stinker of the year: Commander: Stinker at War (-50 points)
>Smile))

I love your Stinker of the Year idea, my problem would be I have
too many nominees in that category......

Bad year for wargaming I say. Good thing though, other genres
had a VERY good year.....
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(Msg. 71) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:07 pm
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> I love your Stinker of the Year idea, my problem would be I have
> too many nominees in that category......
>
> Bad year for wargaming I say. Good thing though, other genres
> had a VERY good year.....

I agree of course...

I was always pro revolutionary design but if there is revolutionary design
then implementation is screwed because of lack of funds of talent. In
another case when there is plenty of money then developers (not all of
course) take evolutionary route and many times implementation is quite good
(MTW 2 comes to my mind).

Of course, at least wargaming business is not so affected by large budgets
syndrome and I still hope that bed room coders are not quite dissapeared
from the face of the Earth Smile

Happy New Year to all, belated!


Mario
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(Msg. 72) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:07 pm
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> My bad - I didn't realize it was out already.

No problem Smile)

>> Stinker of the year: Commander: Stinker at War (-50 points)
>
> Yeah, that'll work Smile

Hehe Smile)


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(Msg. 73) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:32 pm
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> To refresh your memory on what games got published this year :
>
> Air Assault Task Force
> Thermopylae
> Down in Flames WWII - Bombers
> Ancient Warfare : Punic Wars
> Battlefront
> Close Combat : Cross of Iron
> Making History - The Calm & The Storm 2.0
> Silent Hunter 4
> Panzer Campaigns - Budapest '45
> Civil War Campaigns - Atlanta
> AGEOD'S American Civil War - The Blue and the Gray
> Theatre of War
> Civil War Battles: Campaign Chickamauga
> Squad Battles - Soviet-Afghan War
> John Tiller's Campaign Series : Matrix edition
> Carriers at War
> Commander : Europe at War
> Ta.La.Co.Si (Tactical Land Combat Simulator)
> Guns of August 1914-1918
> Combat Mission : Shock Force
> Hornet Leader
> Advanced Tactics (People's Tactics 2)
> Napoleon in Italy
> Strategic Command 2 : Blitzkrieg - Weapons and Warfare
> John Tiller's Battleground Civil War
> John Tiller's Battleground Napoleonic Wars + Age of Sail
> AGEod's Napoleon's Campaigns
> Cose Combat : Modern Tactics
> Panzer Tactics (DS)
> Great Battles of Rome
> Larry Bond's Harpoon Commander's Edition
> Modern Campaigns - Danube Front '85
> Empires in Arms - The Napoleonic Wars of 1805-1815
>
>
> If you think I missed one (or several) feel free to add them - this is
> not a list of nominees.
>

Wow - that's quite a list. What's amazing to me is that I haven't bought a
single title on it.

I don't know if that's an indication of my general suspicion of the quality
of the newly released beta-test versions we've seen lately or the glut of
good old games I've got and haven't played fully. Or at all yet.

<shrug>

Maybe I'll buy something in 2008 and get to vote next year. I did like the
Napoleon's Campaign demo - but it hasn't been released on disc yet. And it
is on the list...

So maybe not.

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(Msg. 74) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:45 pm
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On the 31 Dec 2007, Giftzwerg <giftzwerg999 RemoveThis @NOSPAMZ.hotmail.com>
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> In article <57e9045a4f.jades RemoveThis @d.thurlwell.btopenworld.com>,
> nospam RemoveThis @jades.org says...

<snip>

>> Current PC is 3.4GHz Pentium D with 2GB RAM and an X1650 Pro (512MB,
>> AGP) graphics card. Seems to cope very well with SH3 but I understand
>> SH4 has bigger requirements than the earlier game.

> I tried it on my wife's PC (IE, my PC from last year), running Vista on
> a 3.2 Ghz Pentium with 4GB RAM and the ATI X700 256 MB graphics, and it
> seems to run perfectly well.

Hmm. I've half as much system memory and twice the graphics memory.
Presumably my graphics card is faster (would it kill them to come up
with a less confusing naming scheme?) so it probably evens out
overall. I'm still on XP Home.

I'll keep an eye out for it in the sales, thanks for the info!

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(Msg. 75) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:48 pm
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On the 1 Jan 2008, i own a yacht <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:

> Graham Thurlwell <nospam DeleteThis @jades.org> wrote:

<snip>

>> Current PC is 3.4GHz Pentium D with 2GB RAM and an X1650 Pro (512MB,
>> AGP) graphics card. Seems to cope very well with SH3 but I understand
>> SH4 has bigger requirements than the earlier game.

> it should run fine on that machine, albeit with some of the graphical
> settings turned down. not as fast as sh3 obviously, but definitely
> playable.

Presumably SubSim has some sort of guide for what's best to tweak in
the settings.

> the latest patch also includes some optimizations that have
> basically halved the loading times.

I usually have a book with me for the long waits on patrols (I usually
play SH3 on 256x) so those don't tend to bother me that much. Wink

Thanks for the info!

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