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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:01 am
Post subject: funny vtes item on cafepress
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:40 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:10 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:21 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:47 pm
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Damnans <damnansvtes.TakeThisOut@ono.com> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 10:10 pm, "Kevin M." <youw....TakeThisOut@imaspammer.org> wrote:
>> Neil <no....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> > thought i'd share it with you. perhaps make a good prize for a
>> > tournament? (no i'm not affiliated with the creator)
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http://www.cafepress.com/buy/vtes/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_1652006...
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>> I hope that guy is selling those items at cost, and not making any
>> money off of WW trademarked symbols.
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> Which WW trademarked symbols?
That 'tap'-type symbol (albeit, turned on its side). Perhaps that is
WotC-owned, I dunno.
I know that Steve Wieck has allowed players the use of the non-Tri snakes
VTES symbols for non-profit use (e.g. shirts, mugs, etc.), and I don't
think that beginning with one of those symbols and then simply turning it
a few degrees releases the designer from that allowance.
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy, and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment... Complacency... Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier >> Stay informed about: funny vtes item on cafepress |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:19 pm
Post subject: Re: funny vtes item on cafepress [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jan 28, 8:47 pm, "Kevin M." <youw....DeleteThis@imaspammer.org> wrote:
> Damnans <damnansv....DeleteThis@ono.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 10:10 pm, "Kevin M." <youw....DeleteThis@imaspammer.org> wrote:
> >> Neil <no....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> > thought i'd share it with you. perhaps make a good prize for a
> >> > tournament? (no i'm not affiliated with the creator)
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/vtes/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_1652006...
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> >> I hope that guy is selling those items at cost, and not making any
> >> money off of WW trademarked symbols.
>
> > Which WW trademarked symbols?
>
> That 'tap'-type symbol (albeit, turned on its side). Perhaps that is
> WotC-owned, I dunno.
>
> I know that Steve Wieck has allowed players the use of the non-Tri snakes
> VTES symbols for non-profit use (e.g. shirts, mugs, etc.), and I don't
> think that beginning with one of those symbols and then simply turning it
> a few degrees releases the designer from that allowance.
A good and expensive lawyer could make a case, but a resemblance to a
trademark is not a good foundation for a copyright infringement suit,
especially spoofs which this obviously is. Spoofs are often exempt
from trademark violation law. Point in case, Walk Hard, the Dewey
Cox story, was an obvious spoof of Walk the LIne. Walk Hard was made
by Columbia Pictures, owned by Sony, to capitalize on the popularity
of Walk the like which was made by Fox 2000, owned by Rupert Murdock.
You don't see any headlines about their various armies of lawyers
spilling blood on the courtroom floor over this.
Lawyers are not accountants. Humor is not only appreciated. It is a
utilized as a tool.
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:21 pm
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XZealot wrote:
> On Jan 28, 8:47 pm, "Kevin M." <youw....TakeThisOut@imaspammer.org> wrote:
>> Damnans <damnansv....TakeThisOut@ono.com> wrote:
>> > On Jan 28, 10:10 pm, "Kevin M." <youw....TakeThisOut@imaspammer.org> wrote:
>> >> Neil <no....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >> > thought i'd share it with you. perhaps make a good prize for a
>> >> > tournament? (no i'm not affiliated with the creator)
>>
>> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/vtes/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_1652006...
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>>
>> >> I hope that guy is selling those items at cost, and not making any
>> >> money off of WW trademarked symbols.
>>
>> > Which WW trademarked symbols?
>>
>> That 'tap'-type symbol (albeit, turned on its side). Perhaps that is
>> WotC-owned, I dunno.
>>
>> I know that Steve Wieck has allowed players the use of the non-Tri snakes
>> VTES symbols for non-profit use (e.g. shirts, mugs, etc.), and I don't
>> think that beginning with one of those symbols and then simply turning it
>> a few degrees releases the designer from that allowance.
>
> A good and expensive lawyer could make a case, but a resemblance to a
> trademark is not a good foundation for a copyright infringement suit,
> especially spoofs which this obviously is. Spoofs are often exempt
> from trademark violation law. Point in case, Walk Hard, the Dewey
> Cox story, was an obvious spoof of Walk the LIne. Walk Hard was made
> by Columbia Pictures, owned by Sony, to capitalize on the popularity
> of Walk the like which was made by Fox 2000, owned by Rupert Murdock.
> You don't see any headlines about their various armies of lawyers
> spilling blood on the courtroom floor over this.
>
> Lawyers are not accountants. Humor is not only appreciated. It is a
> utilized as a tool.
Yeah. And like how the movie Underworld was a complete WoD rip-off, but
no one sued over tha...oh, wait...
--
salem
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