Reality Shows and Superheros

In article <A8qdnRypa_ocsFTdRVn-gQ DeleteThis @comcast.com>, hefferman DeleteThis @comcast.net
says...
> The Black Guardian wrote:
> > As we speak, there are
> > thousands and thousands of people roaming the country under assumed names, and
> > it generally takes the government years to find even the places they've been.
>
> How many of those people are trying to live two completely separate lives at
> once?

At least some, one bigamist was caught by wife #1 when she went to
surprise him at another airport, (he was a pilot), and got to see wife #2
welcoming him home.


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Rick Pikul wrote:

> At least some, one bigamist was caught by wife #1 when she went to
> surprise him at another airport, (he was a pilot), and got to see wife #2
> welcoming him home.
>
>

Moron. Even in the old days the sailors knew you had *A* woman in
every port, not MANY women in ONE port. (this aside from the general
sleaziness of the entire idea).

Keeping a secret ID would not be easy for anyone without special
resources, that's for sure.




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Rick Pikul wrote:

> At least some, one bigamist was caught by wife #1 when she went to
> surprise him at another airport, (he was a pilot), and got to see wife #2
> welcoming him home.
>
>

Moron. Even in the old days the sailors knew you had *A* woman in
every port, not MANY women in ONE port. (this aside from the general
sleaziness of the entire idea).

Keeping a secret ID would not be easy for anyone without special
resources, that's for sure.




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Sea Wasp wrote:
> Rick Pikul wrote:

>> At least some, one bigamist was caught by wife #1 when she went to
>> surprise him at another airport, (he was a pilot), and got to see wife #2
>> welcoming him home.
>
> Moron. Even in the old days the sailors knew you had *A* woman in
> every port, not MANY women in ONE port. (this aside from the general
> sleaziness of the entire idea).

Well, personally, I'm guessing that the "went to surprise him at another
airport" is another airport in another city.

> Keeping a secret ID would not be easy for anyone without special
> resources, that's for sure.

Yep. It's largely a genre convention... and even so, its often easy for
someone to figure out a hero's secret ID. How many people have figured out
Spider-man's now...?

Of course, roommates and significant others tend to make it harder to keep a
secret ID... and Spidey's had plenty of each! In a GURPS Supers game where
the GM let us design our own DNPCs, I assigned my own a Quirk: Amazingly
clueless about the possibility that his girlfriend's secretly a superhero.
It's definitely a good thing for those around a super frequently...

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:52:33 GMT, Sea Wasp <seawasp RemoveThis @wizvax.net> wrote:

>Rick Pikul wrote:
>
>> At least some, one bigamist was caught by wife #1 when she went to
>> surprise him at another airport, (he was a pilot), and got to see wife #2
>> welcoming him home.
>>
>>
>
> Moron. Even in the old days the sailors knew you had *A* woman in
>every port, not MANY women in ONE port. (this aside from the general
>sleaziness of the entire idea).

In that case the wife had traveled to another town.
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"Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor.RemoveThis@blackgate.net> wrote in message
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> If you want to run your game this way, you should just disallow the
> disad up front and not waste the players' time. While you are at it, you
> should disallow all of the other "unrealistic" disads, like Reputation,
> Hunted, and so on. After all, if your character is Hunted, and there are
> people with serious investigative capability (government,
> supervillains), there's really no chance you're going to survive. The
> same thing goes for Dependent NPCs, Psych Lims, Vulnerabilities,
> Susceptibilities, and any number of other disads typical in the genre.
>
> Consequently, you will need to make allowance for the fact you have
> effectively eliminated most of the available disads. The least
> aggravating option (for players in such a game) may be to just give the
> players a lump sum of points with which to create characters, and ignore
> disads completely.

That's what I did. Seems to work pretty well.


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"Warren Okuma" <wokuma DeleteThis @lava.net> wrote in message
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>
> Isn't Superman's disguise... glasses?

No, it's tights.

"With those on, nobody's going to be looking at your face!"


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Wayne Shaw <shaw DeleteThis @caprica.com> wrote in message
> I think I have to argue that "unofficial sanction" is an oxymoron. At
> best there's officially recognized superheros and other superheroes.

Now we're just arguing semantics. However you chose to term it in any
comic book universe there are officialy aproved heroes, heroes that
the authorities are ok with bit whom do not technicaly have oficial
aproval (but whom may get unoficial under the table help from some
individuals in law enforcement), vigalantees whom the authorities try
to arrest for their actions even though they are going after crooks,
and villans.

In any case it is where the character falls into this spectrum of
official aknowledgment that seems to determine if he's a superhero or
a costumed vigalantee, not how holyer than thou they are percieved as
being or how idlolized they are. After all most comic book universes
seem to say a hero is ok with the athorities untill he goes to far
into vigalanteism, even if he's a totaly unknown quantity, the cops
were apearently ok with superman long before they knew where he came
from (although whether the crooks he caught before being deputized
actualy ended up in jail was never mentioned). Likewise Captain
America was officialy aproved when he started out, dispite being an
unknown quantity to everyone outside the super soldier program, and
Batman is actively encoraged by the authorities (the bat-signal)
despite the fact that the general public may still not be sure he's
not a vigilantee.
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Wayne Shaw <shaw.TakeThisOut@caprica.com> wrote in message news:<ba5433ef7ad2b7aeac3bfd5efee1c077.TakeThisOut@news.nntpserver.com>...
> On 11 Jun 2004 03:41:55 GMT, blakgard.TakeThisOut@aol.coma.org (The Black
> Guardian) wrote:
>
> >> Look at how many people in real life manage to maintain a second life as a
> >> long-term proposition successfully. The number of successful (e.g.) spies
> >> and cheating husbands is dwarfed by the number of failures, and they don't
> >> have half the problems a superhero would have.

And you know this how? We hear about the failed cheaters and the
failed spies but we don't know how many successful ones there are. In
any case superheroes can be assumed to be both more intelligent and
more mentally stable than cheaters and spies.
> >
> >You realize that, as it is, we only catch about 35-40% of all criminals, right?
>
> That's largely an issue of the resources we spend trying to catch
> them. And unlike such folks, who usually succeed by moving often and
> keeping a low profile, superheroes normally are relatively static and
> do a lot of things to allow patterns to be devised.

So what happens if a superhero/villain decides to travel around
righting wrongs and changing costumes? Hell if I had superpowers and
a weakness I'd change duds about every month or so, and change
cities even more often, faking my own death about half the time.
By the time someone organised a legion of superheroes I'd be half the
membership.
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rgormannospam.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net (David Johnston) wrote in message news:<40c61a6f.49106707.TakeThisOut@news.telusplanet.net>...
> On 8 Jun 2004 12:07:31 -0700, rbrown.TakeThisOut@myriad.com (Richard Brown) wrote:
>
> >celebrities. The modern press doesn't alow anyone to exude moral
> >superiority, draging people through the mud brings better ratings.
>
> At the same time however, Brittany Spears' "sexy virgin" image
> was a real asset to her career and said career took a hit once
> she was officially unvirgined. She had to reinvent herself into
> Madonna Jr to keep going and she seems less comfortable in
> that public role.
>
> >The only escape a superhero would have from this would be in a secred
> >identity, and someone with a secret ID wouldn't be going on the sort
> >of reality show that started this discussion. Actualy I would imagine
> >maintaining a secred ID while being in the public eye should be
> >virtualy impossible for any hero,
>
> Any hero who doesn't possess a physical transformation power.
> It is quite believeable that Willy Wallis, a ten year old with the
> power to turn into a mountain of adult muscle named
> Captain Crusader will remain undetected in his secret I.D. by
> anything short of telepathy. And since there will be a flood
> of self-proclaimed psychics selling imaginary information to
> tabloids, that won't even be the most plausible tip to the media.

It will once the pyschic sends a hit team out to get Willy's folks
and Captain Crusader has to change in front of his house (and a few
carefully hidden cameras).
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In article <40CC5D8A.9090207.RemoveThis@wizvax.net>, seawasp.RemoveThis@wizvax.net says...
> Rick Pikul wrote:
>
> > At least some, one bigamist was caught by wife #1 when she went to
> > surprise him at another airport, (he was a pilot), and got to see wife #2
> > welcoming him home.
> >
> >
>
> Moron. Even in the old days the sailors knew you had *A* woman in
> every port, not MANY women in ONE port. (this aside from the general
> sleaziness of the entire idea).

Gee, I thought noting that it was at _another_ airport was enough
for people to note that she had taken a flight herself to another city.


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On 14 Jun 2004 14:37:51 -0700, rbrown.TakeThisOut@myriad.com (Richard Brown)
wrote:

>Wayne Shaw <shaw.TakeThisOut@caprica.com> wrote in message
>> I think I have to argue that "unofficial sanction" is an oxymoron. At
>> best there's officially recognized superheros and other superheroes.
>
>Now we're just arguing semantics. However you chose to term it in any
>comic book universe there are officialy aproved heroes, heroes that
>the authorities are ok with bit whom do not technicaly have oficial
>aproval (but whom may get unoficial under the table help from some
>individuals in law enforcement), vigalantees whom the authorities try
>to arrest for their actions even though they are going after crooks,
>and villans.

I think in practice the latter two categories are likely legally
indistinguishable; i.e. the law recognizes superheroes, but at the
point you're wanted for crimes (such as presumeably the vigilante's
are) that protection is withdrawn.
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