Are they alive?

External Since: Dec 26, 2004 Posts: 511

"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer.TakeThisOut@beeb.web> wrote:
>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnd2mg0d.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>>>> Ey? Oh, yes. Abandon human children below the age of four on a
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> planet, and they wouldn't grow up building skyscrapers and
>>>>>>>> railroads
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haha, very funny. [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erm...? We were serious. Assume that the children survived, of
>>>>>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>> As if skyscrapers and railroads were a measure of things...
>>>>
>>>> All right, human children raised by nomadic aliens on a different
>>>> planet
>>>> with an inactive nuclear power plant.
>>>
>>> Don't go that far. Just put them into a cage. Or preferably in the
>>> jungle.
>>
>> I think we're working towards different goals.
>
> Goals? Wait... you are *not* experimenting on humans, are you? Keep
> _that_ for the professionals, will you?

Eh. I think it's probably best that this conversation be cut short.

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External Since: Apr 13, 2004 Posts: 993

On 2005-03-08, The Triad <wanderer.TakeThisOut@beeb.web> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnd2qphm.vgk.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x10.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-03-07, The Triad <wanderer.TakeThisOut@beeb.web> wrote:
>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnd2mfq1.h6j.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x3.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>> On 2005-03-06, The Triad <wanderer.TakeThisOut@beeb.web> wrote:
>>>>> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:slrnd2lf5d.e9l.the_emmel*whatever*@btcips73x5.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>>>>>> On 2005-03-06, bd <bdonlan.TakeThisOut@bd.beginyourfear.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>| Very true, but that brings us back to the original question: "Are
>>>>>>>norns
>>>>>>>| alive?". There must be some (psychological) test one that is clever
>>>>>>>| enough could devise. I think norns are very simple life forms, but I
>>>>>>>| don't know how to proof it Sad

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any behavioral test will likely fail, as life has very varied
>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>> The best way is to define life such that norns can be tested to see
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> they fit the criteria.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's of course the easiest way, but there's not much point in
>>>>>> adjusting your tests to your results. There *used* to be this
>>>>>> definition
>>>>>> of life with reproducing and acting upon stimuli and metabolism and
>>>>>> stuff, but I'm pretty sure Norns don't fit in *there*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't they? Why not?
>>>>
>>>> There were a few pitfalls. I thin the whole metabolism thingamajig just
>>>> couldn't be met by anything virtual...
>>>
>>> Hmm. Strange... they at least gave a good impression of simulating it,
>>> at
>>> least in C2.
>>
>> Yes, but the definiton was rather strict.
>
> Ah. What were the relevant parts?

Frankly... I have no clue. I kinda... forgot it.
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