Eurogamer: 360 > PS3 GTA4

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> And you know, the game would have still been a huge hit even if it were
> released a year from now. It's about console and peripheral sales Boody, and
> the 360 is starting to lag in that area. I'm not saying that MS pressed for
> it to get released because of that, but they did have a time schedule for
> the DLC late this summer for that extra $50mil, so the sales part seems
> corollary to it..
>
>
You're starting to sound like a Sony fanboy.
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"Tom" <noway RemoveThis @nothere.com> wrote in message
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> "The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On May 8, 8:52 pm, "Tom" <no... RemoveThis @nothere.com> wrote:
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>>> >> In article <fvvccb$l4...@energise.enta.net>, mark-john... RemoveThis @freeola.com
>>> >> says...
>>> >>> I brought the 360 version of GTA and first thought it was the better
>>> >>> version, but after playing my sons PS3 version I have to say it runs
>>> >>> smoother, no poppins and the processing effects are way above the
>>> >>> 360's
>>> >>> version.
>>>
>>> >> I own neither a 360 or a PS3. However I have seen the comparison vids
>>> >> on
>>> >> gametrailers and the PS3 certainly has small issues. Take a look and
>>> >> you'll see how on the PS3 when in the helicopter a whole building
>>> >> disappears. That said they both look fairly identical for the most
>>> >> part.
>>>
>>> > LOL!
>>>
>>> > As a person that owns both consoles, both versions of GTA IV,
>>> > completed
>>> > the 360 version, still working on the PS3 version, without question
>>> > there
>>> > is more pop up on the 360 version. I have seen whole buildings appear
>>> > right in front of me on the 360 version while driving a car. GTA IV
>>> > isn't
>>> > about graphics, thank god because it is just average looking and both
>>> > have
>>> > frame rate issues, pop up and various other graphical problems, it's
>>> > about
>>> > depth of gameplay.
>>>
>>> > This game, like many others, could have used another 6 months to a
>>> > year of
>>> > polish.
>>>
>>> And you know, the game would have still been a huge hit even if it were
>>> released a year from now. It's about console and peripheral sales Boody,
>>> and
>>> the 360 is starting to lag in that area. I'm not saying that MS pressed
>>> for
>>> it to get released because of that, but they did have a time schedule
>>> for
>>> the DLC late this summer for that extra $50mil, so the sales part seems
>>> corollary to it..
>>
>> Perhaps it would have been better if the game was released in a few
>> months since then the episodes would have had much more of an impact
>> being released around the same time...
>
> I know companies need to make money, but they could hold off. I don't know
> how better the graphics could have been made considering the scope of the
> game, but the popins and framerate could have been worked on more. I wish
> game makers would end having games made that don't need a HDD, or at least
> make a game where it can be with or without an HDD. I wonder how good
> GTAIV would have looked had it cached to the HDD on the 360.

You think they might have been able to lock the frame rate in at a rock
solid 30?

The frame rate is my biggest gripe with the game. I can live with some of
the glitches because the game is so big in scope. When you are driving it
goes from good, bad to omg someone hand me that waste basket quick cause I
am going to hurl, back to good again. This game has SERIOUS frame drops at
the worst possible times.

I got so sucked into the story that I kept going back again and again but I
did get some headaches and a swirling stomach at times.

By the time you get half way through the game it gets very repetitive. If
not for the story I would have stopped playing when I unlocked the whole
city. The humor is what keeps me going back after I completed the game.

Did you break down and get it?
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"Tom" <noway.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote in message
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>
> In N.A. GTAIV sold a little less than 1 million more on the 360, than the
> PS3. Consider that the 360 has about a 2.5/1 install base to the PS3 in NA.
> Now, go to Europe, where the 360 still holds a 1 million install base over
> the PS3, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more units than the
> 360 version.

Most places in the UK (that did't try to charge £50 for them) sold out of
both and are still selling out of both when they get new stock in. So trying
to compare sales figures is a bit pointless until supply is stable.
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> "Tom" <noway RemoveThis @nothere.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> In N.A. GTAIV sold a little less than 1 million more on the 360, than the
>> PS3. Consider that the 360 has about a 2.5/1 install base to the PS3 in
>> NA. Now, go to Europe, where the 360 still holds a 1 million install base
>> over the PS3, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more units
>> than the 360 version.
>
> Most places in the UK (that did't try to charge £50 for them) sold out of
> both and are still selling out of both when they get new stock in. So
> trying to compare sales figures is a bit pointless until supply is stable.
>

That still doesn't take away from the fact that the 360 (remember I was
talking about Europe, not just the UK) has about 1 million 360s in home than
the PS3 does, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more than the 360
version.
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"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp RemoveThis @delanet.com> wrote in message
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> No offense but this can't be correct. There is no way that the X360
> version of GTAIV runs at a higher resolution *and* at a higher
> framerate.

It is correct.
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT), Robert P Holley
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>
>No offense but this can't be correct. There is no way that the X360
>version of GTAIV runs at a higher resolution *and* at a higher
>framerate. My guess is these figures are reversed and it's the PS3
>version with the more stable framerate (albeit lower res).

why not, i mean by all accounts the machine was developed on 360
primarily, then ported to the PS3, so it stands to reason that the 360
version would be the more refined (for want of a better term).
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boodybandit wrote:
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> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler.jackson.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 8, 11:42 am, scoopex <scoo....TakeThisOut@scoopex.co.uk> wrote:
>> Mark Johnson wrote:
>> > scoopex wrote:
>> >> Test One: Game Intro
>> >> 360: 31.990fps
>> >> PS3: 26.460fps
>> >> See it on EGTV.
>>
>> >> Test Two: Clean Getaway
>> >> 360: 28.624fps
>> >> PS3: 23.452fps
>> >> See it on EGTV.
>>
>> >> Test Three: Final Destination
>> >> 360: 35.262fps
>> >> PS3: 29.041fps
>> >> See it on EGTV.
>>
>> >> Test Four: Station Face-Off
>> >> 360: 26.076fps
>> >> PS3: 26.081fps
>> >> See it on EGTV.
>>
>> >> Test Five: Rigged to Blow
>> >> 360: 26.712fps
>> >> PS3: 23.781fps
>> >> See it on EGTV.
>>
>> >> Test Six: Ivan the Not So Terrible
>> >> 360: 33.798fps
>> >> PS3: 28.313fps
>> >> See it on EGTV.
>>
>> >> After almost two thousands words of technical discussion, the bottom
>> >> line is that it's clear that Rockstar had some issues matching the
>> >> basic performance of the Xbox 360 game on the PS3 hardware. Lower
>> >> resolution, zero anti-aliasing support and a more variable frame-rate
>> >> are the bottom line.
>>
>> >> On the one hand, it's a touch disappointing that Rockstar's USD 100
>> >> million budget couldn't extend to optimising the experience to match
>> >> Xbox 360, especially when you look at a game like Burnout Paradise
>> >> that doesn't require a mandatory installation, has a basically rock
>> >> solid frame-rate, and is technically identical cross-platform.
>>
>> >>http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=137829
>>
>> >> xbox 360 for the win.
>>
>> >> lol.
>>
>> > Since your trolling the Playstation newsgroups with this I will add my
>> > say to the matter.
>>
>> > Eurogamer is one of the only site to say the 360 version is better and
>> > smoother framerates, while most of the other sites say the PS3 version
>> > shines.
>>
>> > I brought the 360 version of GTA and first thought it was the better
>> > version, but after playing my sons PS3 version I have to say it runs
>> > smoother, no poppins and the processing effects are way above the 360's
>> > version.
>>
>> > Eurogamer has always been very biased towards the 360. The reviewer on
>> > this site how wrote the stuff you posted also said, the PS3 version
>> > looks better but prefers it on the 360, enough said.
>>
>> PS3 owners: GTA IV gets 1.01 patch, freezing fixed
>>
>> lol. - Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Wow. I have never come across anyone stupid enough to flame a patch.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Really. And at least the PS3 version got a patch. Sad thing though is
> early reports say it doesn't fix everything that is broken. This game
> was not ready for mass production on either system but I guess they
> thought it was good enough to cash in on. It's things like this that can
> ruin a franchise.

It's easily the best game I've ever played. imo of course.
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Tom wrote:
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> "boodybandit" <allaboutgamez RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Sean" <snm_ukTROUSERS RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.228d68c8840bbcf0989aee@news.plus.net...
>>> In article <fvvccb$l4d$1@energise.enta.net>, mark-johnson RemoveThis @freeola.com
>>> says...
>>>> I brought the 360 version of GTA and first thought it was the better
>>>> version, but after playing my sons PS3 version I have to say it runs
>>>> smoother, no poppins and the processing effects are way above the 360's
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I own neither a 360 or a PS3. However I have seen the comparison vids on
>>> gametrailers and the PS3 certainly has small issues. Take a look and
>>> you'll see how on the PS3 when in the helicopter a whole building
>>> disappears. That said they both look fairly identical for the most part.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> As a person that owns both consoles, both versions of GTA IV,
>> completed the 360 version, still working on the PS3 version, without
>> question there is more pop up on the 360 version. I have seen whole
>> buildings appear right in front of me on the 360 version while driving
>> a car. GTA IV isn't about graphics, thank god because it is just
>> average looking and both have frame rate issues, pop up and various
>> other graphical problems, it's about depth of gameplay.
>>
>> This game, like many others, could have used another 6 months to a
>> year of polish.
>
> And you know, the game would have still been a huge hit even if it were
> released a year from now. It's about console and peripheral sales Boody,
> and the 360 is starting to lag in that area. I'm not saying that MS
> pressed for it to get released because of that, but they did have a time
> schedule for the DLC late this summer for that extra $50mil, so the
> sales part seems corollary to it..

By 'lag' do you mean outselling the PS3? :-s
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:23:56 -0400, "Tom" <noway.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote:

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>"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> "Tom" <noway.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> In N.A. GTAIV sold a little less than 1 million more on the 360, than the
>>> PS3. Consider that the 360 has about a 2.5/1 install base to the PS3 in
>>> NA. Now, go to Europe, where the 360 still holds a 1 million install base
>>> over the PS3, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more units
>>> than the 360 version.
>>
>> Most places in the UK (that did't try to charge £50 for them) sold out of
>> both and are still selling out of both when they get new stock in. So
>> trying to compare sales figures is a bit pointless until supply is stable.
>>
>
>That still doesn't take away from the fact that the 360 (remember I was
>talking about Europe, not just the UK) has about 1 million 360s in home than
>the PS3 does, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more than the 360
>version.

well all that tells you is they released 250k more copies on PS3 in
europe.

though i am still struggling to find out why you care.
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"Chris F" <chris DeleteThis @asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:23:56 -0400, "Tom" <noway DeleteThis @nothere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Tom" <noway DeleteThis @nothere.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In N.A. GTAIV sold a little less than 1 million more on the 360, than
>>>> the
>>>> PS3. Consider that the 360 has about a 2.5/1 install base to the PS3 in
>>>> NA. Now, go to Europe, where the 360 still holds a 1 million install
>>>> base
>>>> over the PS3, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more units
>>>> than the 360 version.
>>>
>>> Most places in the UK (that did't try to charge £50 for them) sold out
>>> of
>>> both and are still selling out of both when they get new stock in. So
>>> trying to compare sales figures is a bit pointless until supply is
>>> stable.
>>>
>>
>>That still doesn't take away from the fact that the 360 (remember I was
>>talking about Europe, not just the UK) has about 1 million 360s in home
>>than
>>the PS3 does, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more than the
>>360
>>version.
>
> well all that tells you is they released 250k more copies on PS3 in
> europe.
>
> though i am still struggling to find out why you care.

Keep struggling, I find it odd that you struggle considering the topic of
the thread.

Your observation that 250K more were released for the PS3 is incorrect
considering that Europe was a huge sales point for the previous versions,
which were primarily PS.
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"Tom" <noway.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> "Tom" <noway.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> In N.A. GTAIV sold a little less than 1 million more on the 360, than the
>>> PS3. Consider that the 360 has about a 2.5/1 install base to the PS3 in
>>> NA. Now, go to Europe, where the 360 still holds a 1 million install base
>>> over the PS3, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more units
>>> than the 360 version.
>>
>> Most places in the UK (that did't try to charge £50 for them) sold out of
>> both and are still selling out of both when they get new stock in. So
>> trying to compare sales figures is a bit pointless until supply is stable.
>>
>
> That still doesn't take away from the fact that the 360 (remember I was
> talking about Europe, not just the UK) has about 1 million 360s in home
> than the PS3 does, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more than
> the 360 version.

Yes it dose!

If both sold out (they did) then the difference in sales figures has nothing
to do with userbase but availability.
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:04:54 -0400, "Tom" <noway.TakeThisOut@nothere.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris F" <chris.TakeThisOut@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:23:56 -0400, "Tom" <noway.TakeThisOut@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Tom" <noway.TakeThisOut@nothere.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In N.A. GTAIV sold a little less than 1 million more on the 360, than
>>>>> the
>>>>> PS3. Consider that the 360 has about a 2.5/1 install base to the PS3 in
>>>>> NA. Now, go to Europe, where the 360 still holds a 1 million install
>>>>> base
>>>>> over the PS3, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more units
>>>>> than the 360 version.
>>>>
>>>> Most places in the UK (that did't try to charge £50 for them) sold out
>>>> of
>>>> both and are still selling out of both when they get new stock in. So
>>>> trying to compare sales figures is a bit pointless until supply is
>>>> stable.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That still doesn't take away from the fact that the 360 (remember I was
>>>talking about Europe, not just the UK) has about 1 million 360s in home
>>>than
>>>the PS3 does, yet the PS3 version of GTAIV sold about 250K more than the
>>>360
>>>version.
>>
>> well all that tells you is they released 250k more copies on PS3 in
>> europe.
>>
>> though i am still struggling to find out why you care.
>
>Keep struggling, I find it odd that you struggle considering the topic of
>the thread.

no, i'm struggling to figure out why anyone cares if one version has
sold more than the other, unless they work for sony or microsoft
themselves.
>
>Your observation that 250K more were released for the PS3 is incorrect
>considering that Europe was a huge sales point for the previous versions,
>which were primarily PS.

what?

i mean, again, what?

so because they have previously sold only on PS, they DIDN'T release
more PS3 copies to the european market?

is that really what you're trying to say?

both versions appeared to sell out, if one sold more than the other,
pure logic dictates that there were more copies of that version on the
shelves!

it's not rocket science.
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:40:25 -0700 (PDT), "Nick Soapdish, Jr."
<JGordon452 DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:


>The fact that scoopex took the amount of time he did to type in and
>track down all these comparisons reeks of loserdom. Congratulations
>on a job well done.

i can't believe i'm about to do this, but.......

he didn't track down or type anything, he copy and pasted it.

his motives behind doing so are obvious, but it's not like he spent a
great amount of time doing it.


*feels wrong*
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