Best way to see Victoria Falls - P51 goofoff

Yes! Good remark!

Bent forward it should be because there is power on the engine. At least you
would expect. If bend backwards, no power.

Loek

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mad Mike" <mconron.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Best way to see Victoria Falls - P51 goofoff
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> [....]
>> EVERY propeller tip was bent back about 2 inches!
> [....]
>
> Did dad shurely tell little Mike the prop tips were bent BACK or did he
> say
> they were bent a little FORWARD ?
> Comments here
> Günter
>
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>> ID
>
> I have to see that movie, Iain.
>
> MM

It's a movie that appeals to individuals with a certain
warped sense of humour, and for some reason, MM, I
think you possess that sense of humour. It's the only
film in which a ferris wheel gets sunk by a Japanese sub.

Starring Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi, directed by Steven
Spielberg.

ID
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"Loek" <justask.DeleteThis@me.nl> wrote in message
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> Yes! Good remark!
>
> Bent forward it should be because there is power on the engine. At least
> you would expect. If bend backwards, no power.

I don't understand that. The a/craft is moving forward so does this not mean
that the prop tips would bend back?

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Iain
Rugby, UK
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Hang on Iain,

So I can dig up the theory behind this again, before I'm going to stumble
over my words in an effort to explain this correctly. In very short (and
maybe not all the way correct but I'll give it a shot anyway): while under
power, the prop really pulls the plane, or otherwise, lift pointing forward.
The blades may bend (exaggerated) forward like wings bend upward. So when
hitting the ground under (max or almost max) power, the blades will bend to
the forward direction. Any other investigators here to check me on this.
Dudley? Well, just correct me if I'm wrong but that's the way I remembered
it. Check out some Final Investigation Reports on accidents with propeller
driven aircraft. You may find some pictures of props bend forward. Meanwhile
(if I get some time) I'll try to dig up my old books from then..

Loek

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> "Loek" <justask.DeleteThis@me.nl> wrote in message
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>> Yes! Good remark!
>>
>> Bent forward it should be because there is power on the engine. At least
>> you would expect. If bend backwards, no power.
>
> I don't understand that. The a/craft is moving forward so does this not
> mean that the prop tips would bend back?
>
> --
> Iain
> Rugby, UK
>
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Hi Mad Mike,

Hey, great job, mate!

Nah, I don't mean the landing, I mean getting in the P-51 cockpit with
that helmet and horns on your head - not everybody could do that!! )

Regards,
John Ward
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> Forget flying to the airport 10 miles south and taking a bus to the
> falls. No way! Hop in your P-51, make a mad dash out there and land
> on the dirt road right next to the crosswalk and falls over look..
> Gotta love flight simming!
>
> http://www.mbm30.org/Mike/Victoria_Falls.wmv (1:15)
>
> MM
>
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On Apr 22, 4:20 am, "John Ward" <jrmw....DeleteThis@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Mad Mike,
>
> Hey, great job, mate!
>
> Nah, I don't mean the landing, I mean getting in the P-51 cockpit with
> that helmet and horns on your head - not everybody could do that!! )
>
> Regards,
> John Ward"Mad Mike" <mcon....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Forget flying to the airport 10 miles south and taking a bus to the
> > falls. No way! Hop in your P-51, make a mad dash out there and land
> > on the dirt road right next to the crosswalk and falls over look..
> > Gotta love flight simming!
>
> >http://www.mbm30.org/Mike/Victoria_Falls.wmv (1:15)
>
> > MM

Thanks John. Well, I have to admit, no horns this time!

MM
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"Loek" <justask.RemoveThis@me.nl> wrote in message
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> Hang on Iain,
>
> So I can dig up the theory behind this again, before I'm going to stumble
> over my words in an effort to explain this correctly. In very short (and
> maybe not all the way correct but I'll give it a shot anyway): while under
> power, the prop really pulls the plane, or otherwise, lift pointing
> forward. The blades may bend (exaggerated) forward like wings bend upward.
> So when hitting the ground under (max or almost max) power, the blades
> will bend to the forward direction. Any other investigators here to check
> me on this. Dudley? Well, just correct me if I'm wrong but that's the way
> I remembered it. Check out some Final Investigation Reports on accidents
> with propeller driven aircraft. You may find some pictures of props bend
> forward. Meanwhile (if I get some time) I'll try to dig up my old books
> from then..

Thanks Loek, I think I see now. I had forgotten about the flexing forward of
the prop because it is pulling the a/craft forward. So, yes, as the blades
are already bent in that direction they will bend that way.

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Iain
Rugby, UK
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"Mad Mike" <mconron RemoveThis @yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Apr 21, 9:29 am, "TOCA" <N... RemoveThis @valid.com> wrote:
>> "Mad Mike" <mcon... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> skrev i en
>> meddelelsenews:ec3a8e6e-5a1f-4650-a9e6-8d01e50b6dbd@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Forget flying to the airport 10 miles south and taking a bus to the
>> > falls. No way! Hop in your P-51, make a mad dash out there and land
>> > on the dirt road right next to the crosswalk and falls over look..
>> > Gotta love flight simming!
>>
>> >http://www.mbm30.org/Mike/Victoria_Falls.wmv (1:15)
>>
>> > MM
>>
>> Wow, is that FS9? I've been looking for the Victoria falls, but never
>> found
>> them, only Niagra falls are depicted as falls, instead of steep rivers
>> /
>>
>> Now if you choose an amphibian, and makes a go for Niagra, please take
>> great
>> care, not to hit the litle boat, it will make getting back up again rely
>> hard ;o)http://www.putfile.com/pic/7222961
>>
>> Tommy C, Denmark
>
> I found the Victoria Falls scenery on Avsim, Tommy
>
> vicfalls.zip
>
> Holger Sandmann and Johan van Wyk, Aeroworx
> MM
>

Got it )

There goes the weekend /
Just bought a bunch of new choppers (Abacus Military Helicopters), now I
know where to go in NAVY one ;o)

Tommy C, Denmark
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> "Mad Mike" <mconron.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Forget flying to the airport 10 miles south and taking a bus to the
>> falls. No way! Hop in your P-51, make a mad dash out there and land
>> on the dirt road right next to the crosswalk and falls over look..
>> Gotta love flight simming!
>>
>> http://www.mbm30.org/Mike/Victoria_Falls.wmv (1:15)
>>
>> MM
>>
>
> Kind of reminds me of that scene in '1941' where John Belushi
> lands on the road and taxis into the gas station. Of course,
> the final results are disastrous, for the station. Always
> remember to remove the gas nozzle from your tank before
> taking off.
>
> ID
>

Didn't Mr. Bond do that once? I think I remember Roger Moore opening the
cannopy, saying "Fill it up, will you" /

Tommy C, Denmark
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> "Mad Mike" <mconron DeleteThis @yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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>> On Apr 21, 9:29 am, "TOCA" <N... DeleteThis @valid.com> wrote:
>>> "Mad Mike" <mcon... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> skrev i en
>>> meddelelsenews:ec3a8e6e-5a1f-4650-a9e6-8d01e50b6dbd@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> > Forget flying to the airport 10 miles south and taking a bus to the
>>> > falls. No way! Hop in your P-51, make a mad dash out there and land
>>> > on the dirt road right next to the crosswalk and falls over look..
>>> > Gotta love flight simming!
>>>
>>> >http://www.mbm30.org/Mike/Victoria_Falls.wmv (1:15)
>>>
>>> > MM
>>>
>>> Wow, is that FS9? I've been looking for the Victoria falls, but never
>>> found
>>> them, only Niagra falls are depicted as falls, instead of steep rivers
>>> /
>>>
>>> Now if you choose an amphibian, and makes a go for Niagra, please take
>>> great
>>> care, not to hit the litle boat, it will make getting back up again rely
>>> hard ;o)http://www.putfile.com/pic/7222961
>>>
>>> Tommy C, Denmark
>>
>> I found the Victoria Falls scenery on Avsim, Tommy
>>
>> vicfalls.zip
>>
>> Holger Sandmann and Johan van Wyk, Aeroworx
>> MM
>>
>
> Got it )
>
> There goes the weekend /
> Just bought a bunch of new choppers (Abacus Military Helicopters), now I
> know where to go in NAVY one ;o)
>
> Tommy C, Denmark
>
>
WOW!! What a view ) What a flight )

Niagara times two (at least) placed in the midle of a Grand Canyon like
scenery )

No I could not wait for the weekend ) Just had to land a Blackhawk on the
bridge, and marvel at the view )

Glad the sound effects were missing, or I would have been deaf by now, from
the thundering from that waterfall, no wonder the natives called it
something like "Thunder cloud" )

Now the weekend will be spend, flying those canyons, I can hardly wait )

Thanks for the tip, I'm off for Africa )

Tommy C, Zimbabwe and Zambia ;o)
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