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Andre Matuch

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:05 pm
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boodybandit wrote:
>
> <richardhutnik.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports titles
>>> >> will
>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>
>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>> basketball > game
>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death?
>>>
>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>
>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>
> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing from
> 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.

It's very limited IMO. I have both NHL 08 and 2K8 on my shelf and I
simply don't like NHL 08. I don't find that you have the same level of
control as you do in NHL 2K8.

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richardhutnik

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:30 pm
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On Feb 25, 1:22 pm, Robert P Holley <holle... DeleteThis @delanet.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 11:55 am, richardhut... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 10:31 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > <richardhut... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >>news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > > >> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > > >> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports titles
> > > >> >> will
> > > >> >> die a horrible death!"
>
> > > >> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior basketball
> > > >> > game
> > > >> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
> > > >> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death?
>
> > > >> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>
> > > > EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>
> > > They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing from 2K.
> > > They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>
> > The fact that they have competition means that they work harder. Has
> > Madden gotten better since EA doesn't have any competition in the
> > football arena?
>
> Review-wise I believe it's been getting worse. Part of that though is
> I think the sports genre has been played out in this age of realistic
> graphics. Now that everything looks so real, there isn't much more you
> can do to improve the games from year to year, so I think the games
> have grown stale to reviewers.

How about NOT taking things out people liked? Simple things like
allowing you to run a game in coach only mode or having the AI run
parts you don't want to play or even allowing you to set up game so
that the AI can play both sides?

EA decides to take out this, which shouldn't make a difference, or
take up much code space.

- Rich

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Dan Sgambelluri

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:43 pm
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boodybandit wrote:
>
> <richardhutnik.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports titles
>>> >> will
>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>
>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>> basketball > game
>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death?
>>>
>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>
>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>
> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing from
> 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
lol


Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:43 pm
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"Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> boodybandit wrote:
>>
>> <richardhutnik.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports titles
>>>> >> will
>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>
>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>> basketball > game
>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death?
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>
>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>
>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing from
>> 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
> lol
>
>
> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.

2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a years
ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding their stick.
NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever played and I have played
them all. If you go online with the 360 most will tell you exactly that. It
is amazing how close to the sport it is. The only game I would not argue
that might being a slightly better sports game is 2K basketball.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:04 pm
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"Mattinglyfan" <kyler_jai RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNulty RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports titles will
>> die a horrible death!"
>>
>
> Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior basketball game
> to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
> basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death? If
> anything, this is VERY good for gaming. In theory, EA could apply
> everything that take 2 does that is superior and make an uber-sports game.
> Online leagues, fluid animation, player VIP information....... The
> possibilities are endless. Killing off Take 2 wouldn't make people forget
> what they liked about their games, it would EMPHASIZE it. Bringing Take 2
> back to where it was would only make EA look like the good guy in this
> situation. Is Visual Concepts still owned by take 2 anyway? If not, all
> this is irrelevant in terms of sports gaming.

It's too bad Take 2 has alot more going on than just sports games. Otherwise
i'd welcome the idea too.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:14 pm
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<richardhutnik.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:225d1622-5357-4925-bc32-65903017cee2@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 25, 1:22 pm, Robert P Holley <holle....TakeThisOut@delanet.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 25, 11:55 am, richardhut....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 10:31 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > <richardhut....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > > On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >>news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> > > >> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > > >> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > > >> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>> > > >> >> titles
>> > > >> >> will
>> > > >> >> die a horrible death!"
>>
>> > > >> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>> > > >> > basketball
>> > > >> > game
>> > > >> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty
>> > > >> > decent
>> > > >> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible
>> > > >> > death?
>>
>> > > >> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>
>> > > > EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>
>> > > They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
>> > > from 2K.
>> > > They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>>
>> > The fact that they have competition means that they work harder. Has
>> > Madden gotten better since EA doesn't have any competition in the
>> > football arena?
>>
>> Review-wise I believe it's been getting worse. Part of that though is
>> I think the sports genre has been played out in this age of realistic
>> graphics. Now that everything looks so real, there isn't much more you
>> can do to improve the games from year to year, so I think the games
>> have grown stale to reviewers.
>
> How about NOT taking things out people liked? Simple things like
> allowing you to run a game in coach only mode or having the AI run
> parts you don't want to play or even allowing you to set up game so
> that the AI can play both sides?
>
> EA decides to take out this, which shouldn't make a difference, or
> take up much code space.
>
> - Rich

LOL. You have been talking about coach mode for years now and it is very
clear that has a lot to do with your animosity toward EA. There is only so
much you can do with a game that is released annually and it is going to be
impossible for them to score what they scored 4 or 5 years ago in terms of
reviews.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:20 pm
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On Feb 25, 10:04 pm, Gumby <gumb....RemoveThis@eastlink.spammersmustdie.ca>
wrote:
> Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
> >>> Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.
>
> >> Isn't that what any sport is about? Winning? Especially when you are
> >> trailing you must catch up to win.
> > you might want to read this thread
> >http://www.thebreakaway.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14704
>
> Yep. Rubberband AI sucks - fall behind too far and suddenly your
> opponent become the most incompetent bunch of idjits you'll ever see,
> but get ahead and the AI cheats like mad to catch up and pull ahead. It
> only exists because programmers, especially in sports, racing, FPS and
> RTS/TBS games, are too lazy to try and make a decent AI that could
> actually challenge humans.

Rubber band AI (originating from the term "rubber band" in reference
to racing) is a shorthand cheat that the Midway sports titles used.
Blitz had it, and I am sure NBA Jam had it. I will add that is FINE
to put in a game as an OPTION you can turn off. But if you happen to
sneak it in there, without allowing people to toggle off, that is a
problem.

- Rich
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:25 pm
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On Feb 25, 9:14 pm, "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> <richardhut... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:225d1622-5357-4925-bc32-65903017cee2@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 1:22 pm, Robert P Holley <holle... RemoveThis @delanet.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 25, 11:55 am, richardhut... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 25, 10:31 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > <richardhut... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > >news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > > > On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga... RemoveThis @comcast.net>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> > > >>news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> >> > > >> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > > >> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> > > >> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
> >> > > >> >> titles
> >> > > >> >> will
> >> > > >> >> die a horrible death!"
>
> >> > > >> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
> >> > > >> > basketball
> >> > > >> > game
> >> > > >> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty
> >> > > >> > decent
> >> > > >> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible
> >> > > >> > death?
>
> >> > > >> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>
> >> > > > EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>
> >> > > They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
> >> > > from 2K.
> >> > > They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>
> >> > The fact that they have competition means that they work harder. Has
> >> > Madden gotten better since EA doesn't have any competition in the
> >> > football arena?
>
> >> Review-wise I believe it's been getting worse. Part of that though is
> >> I think the sports genre has been played out in this age of realistic
> >> graphics. Now that everything looks so real, there isn't much more you
> >> can do to improve the games from year to year, so I think the games
> >> have grown stale to reviewers.
>
> > How about NOT taking things out people liked? Simple things like
> > allowing you to run a game in coach only mode or having the AI run
> > parts you don't want to play or even allowing you to set up game so
> > that the AI can play both sides?
>
> > EA decides to take out this, which shouldn't make a difference, or
> > take up much code space.
>
> > - Rich
>
> LOL. You have been talking about coach mode for years now and it is very
> clear that has a lot to do with your animosity toward EA. There is only so
> much you can do with a game that is released annually and it is going to be
> impossible for them to score what they scored 4 or 5 years ago in terms of
> reviews.

Way back when IN THE ORIGINAL XBOX days, you were able to have the AI
do things you didn't want, which didn't need a coach only mode. 2K
Sports went with that, or forced you to have the QB do passing. This
was a BIG factor in me sticking with Madden. Well, now in the era of
360-PS3, they dropped that from the system, making Madden take on the
ONE thing I hated about 2K Football, that being you can't run plays
coach mode. It is a kick to the groan for me.

I have spoken on this ever since it has been an issue.

Anyhow, ok, there is only so much you can do. But is it too much to
ask them NOT to take things out that take up almost no space in memory
or disk space?

My anger against EA isn't just the NFL. It is that they engaged in
activities with the ONLY intent to permanently prevent them from
having any competitors in football. They knocked out college AND
arena football. They also took the ESPN license. The intent here was
to have a monopoly in this area. Why am I supposed to think this is a
good thing? Is it a good thing?

- Rich
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:27 pm
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boodybandit wrote:
>
> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:MmBwj.7$pM4.5@pd7urf1no...
>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>
>>> <richardhutnik DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>
>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>
>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
>>> from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>> lol
>>
>>
>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>
> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a
> years ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding their
> stick. NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever played and I
> have played them all. If you go online with the 360 most will tell you
> exactly that. It is amazing how close to the sport it is. The only game
> I would not argue that might being a slightly better sports game is 2K
> basketball.
Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:27 pm
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"Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> boodybandit wrote:
>>
>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:MmBwj.7$pM4.5@pd7urf1no...
>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <richardhutnik.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible
>>>>>> > death?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>>
>>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>>
>>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
>>>> from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>>> lol
>>>
>>>
>>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>>
>> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a years
>> ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding their stick.
>> NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever played and I have
>> played them all. If you go online with the 360 most will tell you exactly
>> that. It is amazing how close to the sport it is. The only game I would
>> not argue that might being a slightly better sports game is 2K
>> basketball.
> Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.

Isn't that what any sport is about? Winning? Especially when you are
trailing you must catch up to win.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:07 pm
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boodybandit wrote:
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> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>
>>> <richardhutnik.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible death?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>
>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>
>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
>>> from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>> lol
>>
>>
>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>
> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a
> years ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding their
> stick. NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever played and I
> have played them all. If you go online with the 360 most will tell you
> exactly that. It is amazing how close to the sport it is. The only game
> I would not argue that might being a slightly better sports game is 2K
> basketball.

As an actual hockey fan from the birthplace of hockey, I will tell you
that I find 2k to be closer to the real deal than NHL 08. However, you
are entitled to your own opinion regardless of how it may differ from mine.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:18 am
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boodybandit wrote:
>
> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:rwFwj.434$pM4.122@pd7urf1no...
>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:MmBwj.7$pM4.5@pd7urf1no...
>>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <richardhutnik.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible >
>>>>>>> death?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
>>>>> from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever made.
>>>> lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>>>
>>> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a
>>> years ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding
>>> their stick. NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever played
>>> and I have played them all. If you go online with the 360 most will
>>> tell you exactly that. It is amazing how close to the sport it is.
>>> The only game I would not argue that might being a slightly better
>>> sports game is 2K basketball.
>> Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.
>
> Isn't that what any sport is about? Winning? Especially when you are
> trailing you must catch up to win.
you might want to read this thread
http://www.thebreakaway.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14704
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:18 am
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"Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:LNJwj.1916$w94.173@pd7urf2no...
> boodybandit wrote:
>>
>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:rwFwj.434$pM4.122@pd7urf1no...
>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:MmBwj.7$pM4.5@pd7urf1no...
>>>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <richardhutnik.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible >
>>>>>>>> death?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs nothing
>>>>>> from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck game ever
>>>>>> made.
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>>>>
>>>> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a
>>>> years ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding
>>>> their stick. NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever played
>>>> and I have played them all. If you go online with the 360 most will
>>>> tell you exactly that. It is amazing how close to the sport it is. The
>>>> only game I would not argue that might being a slightly better sports
>>>> game is 2K basketball.
>>> Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.
>>
>> Isn't that what any sport is about? Winning? Especially when you are
>> trailing you must catch up to win.
> you might want to read this thread
> http://www.thebreakaway.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14704

No I will pass.
I followed enough hockey in my life time (been a fan for 30+ years) to know
NHL 08 is the closest any developer has ever come to the real thing and it
is far and away the best hockey game ever made (so far).
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:19 am
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Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
> boodybandit wrote:
>>
>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:rwFwj.434$pM4.122@pd7urf1no...
>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:MmBwj.7$pM4.5@pd7urf1no...
>>>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <richardhutnik.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty decent
>>>>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible
>>>>>>>> > death?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs
>>>>>> nothing from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck
>>>>>> game ever made.
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>>>>
>>>> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a
>>>> years ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding
>>>> their stick. NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever
>>>> played and I have played them all. If you go online with the 360
>>>> most will tell you exactly that. It is amazing how close to the
>>>> sport it is. The only game I would not argue that might being a
>>>> slightly better sports game is 2K basketball.
>>> Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.
>>
>> Isn't that what any sport is about? Winning? Especially when you are
>> trailing you must catch up to win.
> you might want to read this thread
> http://www.thebreakaway.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14704

NHL 2K8 at Hall of Famer difficulty is just perfect.
The comeback logic is exactly what turned me off from NHL 08. I didn't
want to be punished for playing well during every game.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:51 am
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boodybandit wrote:
>
> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:LNJwj.1916$w94.173@pd7urf2no...
>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:rwFwj.434$pM4.122@pd7urf1no...
>>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambelluri.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:MmBwj.7$pM4.5@pd7urf1no...
>>>>>> boodybandit wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <richardhutnik.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1a125116-2f7f-4977-a6ba-da50a7c27452@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 8:06 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga....DeleteThis@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <kyler_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> news:lNmdnZoQpJ0CjF_anZ2dnUVZ_rGhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > "Mark McNulty" <MarkMcNu....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> >news:H--dncKt_cQwRlzanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>> >> Geez, and the letter doesn't even say "Yes, and your sports
>>>>>>>>> titles >> will
>>>>>>>>> >> die a horrible death!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Hmm.... Lets think about this. If Take 2 Makes a superior
>>>>>>>>> basketball > game
>>>>>>>>> > to EA and a comparable American Football game and a pretty
>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>> > basketball game, why would THEIR sports titles die a horrible >
>>>>>>>>> death?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yup. Can you imagine 2K Basketball with EA's graphics?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EA would take the worst of both worlds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They don't with football and hockey. EA's hockey game needs
>>>>>>> nothing from 2K. They far and away have the absolute best puck
>>>>>>> game ever made.
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both games have problems and both games have good things about them.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2K's hockey isn't even on the same stratosphere as EA's. A couple a
>>>>> years ago they were but EA has since left them in the dust holding
>>>>> their stick. NHL 08 is the single best hockey game I have ever
>>>>> played and I have played them all. If you go online with the 360
>>>>> most will tell you exactly that. It is amazing how close to the
>>>>> sport it is. The only game I would not argue that might being a
>>>>> slightly better sports game is 2K basketball.
>>>> Didn't know real life had a catchup logic.
>>>
>>> Isn't that what any sport is about? Winning? Especially when you are
>>> trailing you must catch up to win.
>> you might want to read this thread
>> http://www.thebreakaway.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14704
>
> No I will pass.
> I followed enough hockey in my life time (been a fan for 30+ years) to
> know NHL 08 is the closest any developer has ever come to the real thing
> and it is far and away the best hockey game ever made (so far).
it may be the closest, but it is far from being realistic.
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