The 3.5E Exodus is already starting

Ed Chauvin IV wrote:

> Mere moments before death, Seebs <usenet-nospam.TakeThisOut@seebs.net> hastily
> scrawled:
>
>
>>I do plan to get 4E, even
>>though I'm not sure whether I'll end up playing it.
>
>
> Which is what I don't get. I'll take a good hard look at 4e, but if
> I'm not going to play, then I'm not going to pay.
>
>
>

I'll buy the PHB at least. I own hundreds of RPG books that I will
never use. I'm a collector.

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Tetsubo wrote:
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
>> Malachias Invictus wrote:
>>
>>> People are already selling book collections on eBay:
>>>
>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZQ2dcalibanQ2dQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone here started buying or selling their books there? I think
>>> I am going to keep pretty much all of my stuff.
>>>
>>
>> Why would anyone SELL their RPG stuff?
>>
>
> In an effort to "dejunk" my life. Books I don't need and haven't
> look at let alone used in years. I can also use the money to buy NEW
> books that might well be more useful and entertaining. I live in a two
> bedroom apartment and my wife and I have 20 bookshelves...
>

This is an argument for a larger apartment or a house, not for
getting rid of books!


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Sea Wasp wrote:

> Tetsubo wrote:
>
>> Sea Wasp wrote:
>>
>>> Malachias Invictus wrote:
>>>
>>>> People are already selling book collections on eBay:
>>>>
>>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZQ2dcalibanQ2dQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone here started buying or selling their books there? I
>>>> think I am going to keep pretty much all of my stuff.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why would anyone SELL their RPG stuff?
>>>
>>
>> In an effort to "dejunk" my life. Books I don't need and haven't
>> look at let alone used in years. I can also use the money to buy NEW
>> books that might well be more useful and entertaining. I live in a two
>> bedroom apartment and my wife and I have 20 bookshelves...
>>
>
> This is an argument for a larger apartment or a house, not for
> getting rid of books!
>
>

I can neither afford a larger apartment nor a house. I simply have too
much "stuff". I know it isn't very Western for an American to admit
that. I make a concerted effort to regularly donate my belongings to
charity. Including the non-fiction books I read. I probably only keep
10% of what I read now. I still keep (and purchase) RPG books, LED
flashlights and the occasional knife though. I man still has his hobbies.

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Tetsubo <tetsubo RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> Reginald Blue wrote:
>
>> 1. They found a box outside marked "RPG stuff" thrown apparently in
>> the trash. They have no use for it, so they're selling it for the
>> money.
>
> I have a recurring dream that I find a treasure trove of RPG books
> someday. My wife is convinced I am seeing the future and it is MY
> collection being found by someone else...

So, uh, where do you live again? Just wondering.


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Keith Davies wrote:

> Tetsubo <tetsubo RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Reginald Blue wrote:
>>
>>
>>>1. They found a box outside marked "RPG stuff" thrown apparently in
>>>the trash. They have no use for it, so they're selling it for the
>>>money.
>>
>> I have a recurring dream that I find a treasure trove of RPG books
>> someday. My wife is convinced I am seeing the future and it is MY
>> collection being found by someone else...
>
>
> So, uh, where do you live again? Just wondering.
>
>
> Keith

Southern NH. And I'm not dead yet. And I am armed...

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Tetsubo <tetsubo.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> Keith Davies wrote:
>
>> Tetsubo <tetsubo.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Reginald Blue wrote:
>>>
>>>>1. They found a box outside marked "RPG stuff" thrown apparently in
>>>>the trash. They have no use for it, so they're selling it for the
>>>>money.
>>>
>>> I have a recurring dream that I find a treasure trove of RPG books
>>> someday. My wife is convinced I am seeing the future and it is MY
>>> collection being found by someone else...
>>
>> So, uh, where do you live again? Just wondering.
>
> Southern NH. And I'm not dead yet. And I am armed...

I wasn't trying to suggest anything, y'know, *immediate*. But it'd be
good to know where to look once those last two points are settled....


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Keith Davies wrote:

> Tetsubo <tetsubo.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Keith Davies wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tetsubo <tetsubo.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Reginald Blue wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>1. They found a box outside marked "RPG stuff" thrown apparently in
>>>>>the trash. They have no use for it, so they're selling it for the
>>>>>money.
>>>>
>>>>I have a recurring dream that I find a treasure trove of RPG books
>>>>someday. My wife is convinced I am seeing the future and it is MY
>>>>collection being found by someone else...
>>>
>>>So, uh, where do you live again? Just wondering.
>>
>> Southern NH. And I'm not dead yet. And I am armed...
>
>
> I wasn't trying to suggest anything, y'know, *immediate*. But it'd be
> good to know where to look once those last two points are settled....
>
>
> Keith

I'll have my wife put you on the waiting list.

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"Tetsubo" wrote: in message
> Keith Davies wrote:
>
>> Tetsubo <tetsubo.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Reginald Blue wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>1. They found a box outside marked "RPG stuff" thrown apparently in
>>>>the trash. They have no use for it, so they're selling it for the
>>>>money.
>>>
>>> I have a recurring dream that I find a treasure trove of RPG books
>>> someday. My wife is convinced I am seeing the future and it is MY
>>> collection being found by someone else...
>>
>>
>> So, uh, where do you live again? Just wondering.
>>
>>
>> Keith
>
> Southern NH. And I'm not dead yet. And I am armed...

Cool. Very close to America's Stonehenge near Salem. Awesome megalithic
site, with cool ruins, a complete space observatory, the usual soltice
markers, living quarters, and a sacrificial/animal skinning table from the
late stone age, used in the modern day for pagan and druidic rituals. Been
there (Southern NH) once or twice myself. With quite a few frogs in the hood
too, mostly from the Canadian French Independence movement. Snows alot in
the winter there, and gets as cold as the arctic in the wintertime. Great
homebrew hootch!

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Dirk
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Tetsubo wrote:
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
>> Malachias Invictus wrote:
>>
>>> People are already selling book collections on eBay:
>>>
>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZQ2dcalibanQ2dQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone here started buying or selling their books there? I
>>> think I am going to keep pretty much all of my stuff.
>>>
>>
>> Why would anyone SELL their RPG stuff?
>>
>
> In an effort to "dejunk" my life. Books I don't need and haven't look
> at let alone used in years. I can also use the money to buy NEW books
> that might well be more useful and entertaining. I live in a two
> bedroom apartment and my wife and I have 20 bookshelves...

Well, it's quite obvious what to do then.

Get rid of the wife and get more bookshelves.



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Keith Davies wrote:
>> The big thing I want is to see a standardization of stats into two
>> matched sets of three:
>>
>> physical strength (str) mental strength (cha)
>> physical durability (con) mental durability (wis)
>> physical speed (dex) mental speed (int)
>>
>> I think this would suggest a number of things -- for instance, four
>> saves rather than three, one based on wis, one based on int.
>
> What I've got instead is I still use three saves, but you can (with a
> feat) substitute the associated ability.
>
> .. Fort can use Str instead (if you have enough meat, you are more
> resistant to Fort-related things)
> .. Reflex can use Int instead (if you're smart enough you don't *dodge*
> the effect so much as not be present where it happens -- you realize
> slightly earlier that *here* is a bad place to be and move somewhere
> else)
> .. Will can use Cha instead (force of personality, rather than mental
> resilience)

From the sheets from D&D XP, it's entirely possible that you this is
what 4E does.


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Jasin Zujovic <jzujovic DeleteThis @inet.hr> wrote:
> Keith Davies wrote:
>>> The big thing I want is to see a standardization of stats into two
>>> matched sets of three:
>>>
>>> physical strength (str) mental strength (cha)
>>> physical durability (con) mental durability (wis)
>>> physical speed (dex) mental speed (int)
>>>
>>> I think this would suggest a number of things -- for instance, four
>>> saves rather than three, one based on wis, one based on int.
>>
>> What I've got instead is I still use three saves, but you can (with a
>> feat) substitute the associated ability.
>>
>> .. Fort can use Str instead (if you have enough meat, you are more
>> resistant to Fort-related things)
>> .. Reflex can use Int instead (if you're smart enough you don't *dodge*
>> the effect so much as not be present where it happens -- you realize
>> slightly earlier that *here* is a bad place to be and move somewhere
>> else)
>> .. Will can use Cha instead (force of personality, rather than mental
>> resilience)
>
> From the sheets from D&D XP, it's entirely possible that you this is
> what 4E does.

Well, those are feats IMC, not general rules.


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invictusebay.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:

>People are already selling book collections on eBay:
>http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZQ2dcalibanQ2dQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0

Oh, GOODIE!

>Has anyone here started buying or selling their books there? I think I am
>going to keep pretty much all of my stuff.

I don't plan on using 4E, so I'll be keeping my stuff, thank-you-very-much!


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Mere moments before death, Ubiquitous <weberm.RemoveThis@polaris.net> hastily
scrawled:

>invictusebay@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>People are already selling book collections on eBay:
>>http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZQ2dcalibanQ2dQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0
>
>Oh, GOODIE!
>
>>Has anyone here started buying or selling their books there? I think I am
>>going to keep pretty much all of my stuff.
>
>I don't plan on using 4E, so I'll be keeping my stuff, thank-you-very-much!

Bullshit.


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