Qreat Lakes Region Qualifier

If Chicago was promised the bid this year, I don't have any problem
bowing out.
I still think it's central enough for most of the West/North people to
still make it.

Eric, if you want it, it's all yours.
I'd just like to see the most people with access to the location, I
don't care where it is.

josh
Madison




On Feb 3, 9:20 pm, benp... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> devil_in_the_pale_moon_li... DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> > Is anyone discussing locations for the QLQ?  If so can someone tell me
> > where?  If not where can I go to get discussions started?
>
>   As per the agreement from last year, the 2007 GLQs were in Indiana
> and Ohio and the GLQs for 2008 will be in the Chicago area and
> Michigan.
>
>   If you'd like to be part of the discussion for the 2008 GLQs
> (especially if you're from the Chicago area or Michigan), please email
> me at ninja ->at<- ofdoom ->dot<- com.
>
>   - Ben Peal, US National Coordinator
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As I understand it, all of us in the region want to have the greatest
number of playgroups attend. I whole-heartedly believe that Madison is
the place for this to occur. Eric Simon has said that he wouldn't mind
at all if Madison has the qualifier (as long as he gets 09, which is
perfect), as it will lead to more people attending 08's and 09's
qualifiers.

To be frank, putting the GLQ West in Chicago this year will prevent
groups from Minnesota from attending. I have been told for 3 years how
great the VTES Community is. How players create friendships, how you
can always dig up a game when visiting a city with a little heads up,
how this is all achieved through nothing more than playing the same
game. We all want this community to include and involve the greatest
number of people. With that in the forefront of the mind, Madison is
the choice. Anywhere else is preventing the community from embracing
new members.

- Tony Gilder
Prince of Virginia, MN
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On Feb 6, 5:26 am, "Jay Kristoff" <j... DeleteThis @columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> "Wombat_Master" wrote :
>
>
>
> > As I understand it, all of us in the region want to have the greatest
> > number of playgroups attend. I whole-heartedly believe that Madison is
> > the place for this to occur. Eric Simon has said that he wouldn't mind
> > at all if Madison has the qualifier (as long as he gets 09, which is
> > perfect), as it will lead to more people attending 08's and 09's
> > qualifiers.
>
> > To be frank, putting the GLQ West in Chicago this year will prevent
> > groups from Minnesota from attending. I have been told for 3 years how
> > great the VTES Community is. How players create friendships, how you
> > can always dig up a game when visiting a city with a little heads up,
> > how this is all achieved through nothing more than playing the same
> > game. We all want this community to include and involve the greatest
> > number of people. With that in the forefront of the mind, Madison is
> > the choice. Anywhere else is preventing the community from embracing
> > new members.
>
> Tony,
>
> I understand and appreciate your plea for a change venue for this year's
> GLQ West. Please keep in mind that the host cities of these qualifiers
> change each year. Therefore, some years they will be closer to you than
> others. By choosing to live in B.F.E., you have ensured that many things
> will be far away from you. Chicago did a great job of hosting a GLQ
> several years ago, and is due to host another. If you choose to make the
> trip to Chicago, I think you will find it to be worth your time, effort, and
> money. On the mailing list that Ben mentioned, there is talk of having GLQ
> West in Madison WI in 2009. Please contact Ben to join us on that list for
> further discussion.
>
> Jay Kristoff
> V:EKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio USA

I am unaware of a current discussion. I sent a msg to Ben shortly
after his post. He said he would cc me into the next meeting.
Patiently, I am awaiting that cc. As of last night, Tony too was
awaiting a response from Ben.

I would appreciate an opportunity to present my opinions and arguments
in favor of Madison 2008 in their proper venue. At this point in
time, it appears the decision is a fait accompli; and input from
Minnesota is an exercise in futility at best. Condescension and
disregard are words that also come to mind.

I ask that Tony and I be allowed into the ongoing conversation, before
any hard and fast decisions are made. There are good reasons to hold
a qualifier north of Chicago. I would like an opportunity to present
them.

Jim Miller
No title of significance
Virginia, MN
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"Wombat_Master" wrote :

> As I understand it, all of us in the region want to have the greatest
> number of playgroups attend. I whole-heartedly believe that Madison is
> the place for this to occur. Eric Simon has said that he wouldn't mind
> at all if Madison has the qualifier (as long as he gets 09, which is
> perfect), as it will lead to more people attending 08's and 09's
> qualifiers.
>
> To be frank, putting the GLQ West in Chicago this year will prevent
> groups from Minnesota from attending. I have been told for 3 years how
> great the VTES Community is. How players create friendships, how you
> can always dig up a game when visiting a city with a little heads up,
> how this is all achieved through nothing more than playing the same
> game. We all want this community to include and involve the greatest
> number of people. With that in the forefront of the mind, Madison is
> the choice. Anywhere else is preventing the community from embracing
> new members.

Tony,

I understand and appreciate your plea for a change venue for this year's
GLQ West. Please keep in mind that the host cities of these qualifiers
change each year. Therefore, some years they will be closer to you than
others. By choosing to live in B.F.E., you have ensured that many things
will be far away from you. Chicago did a great job of hosting a GLQ
several years ago, and is due to host another. If you choose to make the
trip to Chicago, I think you will find it to be worth your time, effort, and
money. On the mailing list that Ben mentioned, there is talk of having GLQ
West in Madison WI in 2009. Please contact Ben to join us on that list for
further discussion.

Jay Kristoff
V:EKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio USA
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Jim Miller wrote:
> I am unaware of a current discussion. I sent a msg to Ben shortly
> after his post. He said he would cc me into the next meeting.
> Patiently, I am awaiting that cc. As of last night, Tony too was
> awaiting a response from Ben.
>
> I would appreciate an opportunity to present my opinions and arguments
> in favor of Madison 2008 in their proper venue. At this point in
> time, it appears the decision is a fait accompli; and input from
> Minnesota is an exercise in futility at best. Condescension and
> disregard are words that also come to mind.
>
> I ask that Tony and I be allowed into the ongoing conversation, before
> any hard and fast decisions are made. There are good reasons to hold
> a qualifier north of Chicago. I would like an opportunity to present
> them.

Jim,

My apologies for not getting you, Tony, and a couple of others added
to the present mailing list. I've been sick and in and out of the
doctor's office for the past two days. I'll make sure to get everyone
updated this evening.


- Ben Peal
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