Noob needs help and guidance

External Since: Oct 19, 2006 Posts: 64

I was only aware of the need and greed part..I try to pass on stuff
that I didn't need at all. And only greed if everyone else does..but
sometimes that is hard to do, to know when someone needed on
something. IF I needed it I will need.

Is this close to what I should do?

Shammy the blue was a 2 hand mace +10 str +10 sta it was not a Druid
only weapon.
I went way out on str gear. Should I balance str and agility or go for
agility at expense of str?

I will get back on him and get him up some on ranks and see how he
does.

Is 26 too high for DeadMines, just a way to get more feel for groups.

I have him skinning and leather working right now...high on skinning
and low on leather..is there some need to keep going on lw or drop it
in favor of something else?

ps I can afford to send him 500 gold if I need to ..one good thing
about a 70 Smile

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:37:36 +0200, Jack D <jack_221NOSP.RemoveThis@Mhotmail.com>
wrote:

> The one thing you should really be
>aware about is the looting rules people use.

External Since: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 60

On Aug 27, 2:48 pm, "Hans Escher" <hesc....RemoveThis@replytonewsgrouphome.nl>
wrote:
> sparks
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> > Complete noob to the game.
> > Dumb little alliance warlock.
> > I just made level 70.
> > I was in a guild from 25-40 then it fell apart.
> > I have been solo almost the entire game and been in 2 instances.
> > DM and Uldaman.
>
> > I talked to some guilds that are big time players and NONE of them
> > want anything to do with me...of course they are big time raiding
> > guilds and I understand their points. IF you don't have keys and raid
> > gear you are junk player..TRUE
>
> > What do i need to do to get going...I have tailoring at 340, some
> > people told me to get it to 375 and make some gear, that shows that
> > you are trying. What gear?
>
> > H E L P
>
> > I don't have a clue what to do.
>
> > thank you for any help with this
>
> Edit afterwards: While typing I went a bit out of my way and it might
> be a bit messy. Still I think it has enough points....
>
> While starting towards creating whole Shadow Weave is a good thing
> to do on the way, the most important thing is to know if and how you
> want to spend the rest of your level 70.
>
> [A] about five mans
>
> The question for yourself is, why didn't you group much 1-70?
> Let me guess the answer: it is such a hassle to find fun groups
> and you have not that much need for chatter.
> (getting powered by a level 60/70 tru an instance isn't fun,
> trying to do it with a group where everyone is under the advised
> level except you isn't that appealing either)
>
> Now will this be better for the level 70 five man instances?
> Not that much... well... no level troubles... but finding takes time.
> Note: if you play a warrior, druid, priest or paladin you have
> hardly problems, (resto)shamans and mages(polymorph) have
> it easier too. Warlocks are at the bottom for 5 mans.
>
> Make sure to have lots of other stuff to do while waiting for
> groups. You will probably need to work hard with your Succubus
> to try to look a bit like a mage.
>
> Five mans cannot be completely evaded if you want to get
> somewhere else however. Make sure to complete at least
> all the dungeon quests.
>
> [B] organised PvP?
>
> I am not experienced in this, but it might be an option to think
> about.
>
> [C] raiding.
>
> Does raiding sound fun? Lets talk about raiding a bit...
>
> In other to be able to raid you will need quite a lot of work.
> You should ask yourself wether it will be worth it...
>
> [1] The first question for you should be: do you like doing things
> on fixed times, are you organized?
>
> Raiding will mean playing a lot with a generally very stable group of
> players. Generally you will have to signup days before a raid and you
> are expected to come if you sign, most guilds may require you to be
> present on a certain minimum of days per week.
>
> That doesn't need to be a problem if you are organized anyway.
>
> Some less experienced or lazy guilds may just bluntly ask you to play
> 7 evenings a week. Experienced guilds won't expect that.
> However, to be able to raid they will need to get 10 or 25 players
> together with good balance of classes and thats quite a hard job,
> every guild will need a big majority of players it can rely on to be present
> on a certain days.
>
> For me raiding has an immense benefit... no more looking for group,
> oh I hate waiting hours to get anywhere and then being confronted
> with people that suddenly don't have time anymore.
>
> Raiding gives certainty and quality play. The social aspect differs
> a lot in guilds, but having 10-25 players together can mean a lot of
> chatter and jokes, being together often will will let you know people,
> can build friendships.
>
> If you are a bit timid (since you haven't grouped from 1-70) raiding
> might be an easier way to get to know people!
>
> In raids (esp 25 mans) you will much more often meet people of
> the same class, which will be a big eye opener. You will learn lots
> more of your class.
>
> [2] About the play while raiding.
>
> Just going for a few epics that will be bypassed in four or so month
> when WoLK might comes shouldn't be the main motivation....
> Is raiding a fun way to play?
>
> Blizzards design is changed a bit from the Molten Core/BWL days,
> raid instances are very challenging now and often players need to
> work hard to get bosses down in time and every player must know
> the tactics, which is quite a study.
> Doing the boss in time also requires that gear needs to be very good.
>
> On the positive side, it can feel as a big accomplishment to kill a new
> boss, or even to have completed a critical job correctly
> (doing only dps has less of that feeling, unless you are near the top,
> which is doable for a warlock Smile

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>
> Some bosses require a carefull positioning and moving of all players,
> and since everyone is needed to kill the boss everyone becomes
> critical...
> Shade of Aran: depending on the action the boss does it is either
> important not to move at all, or to move away from the center to the
> side asap, or to evade a blizzard, for the latter moving *to* the center
> is generally easiest.
> Netherspite: alternatingly you need to move away from the boss or
> close to it, during the latter, generally 6 players will be sheduled to
> stand such that they intercept one of the three laserlike beams for
> a period of time.
> Prince Malchezar: You have to evade the AoE from infernals, during
> the fight it gets tighter and tighter.
>
> Warlocks have a couple of critical jobs
> - Shade of aran: Banishing and fearing adds.
> - Matheridon: Keeping curse of exhaustion up (30 sec duration!) on 5 mobs
> and fearing and banishing adds. Maybe a job to click on cubes on a very
> specific time. Note: this is a 25 man, so you are typically not the only
> warlock
> on this duty.
>
> Warlocks need to enslave and/or banish at Maulgar (Gruuls lair) and
> maybe tank with that enslaved pet.
>
> A warlock with very high fire resistance gear can tank leotheras the
> blind (Serpent Shrine Cavern) casting searing pain, while soullinked
> with his felhunter. A similar but less gear critical tanking can be asked
> during the Kaelthas Sunstrider fight (End boss The Eye)
>
> In our guild my warlock helps a hunter kite Striders at lady vash,
> using curse of exhaustion (12 sec duration). If its not up from about
> 8 seconds its a wipe)
>
> Do you like learning such encounters?
> Are you willing to do such things 10+ times (once a week)?
> Note: on the positive lots of guilds become visibly better every week
> and that feels nice. (Up to a point the guild becomes more and more
> bored, hopefully the guild is smart enough to stop doing that instance)
>
> [3] On the negative side,
>
> it takes lots of time to get the gear needed and for every new level of
> bosses (karazhan/gruul-magtheridon/ssc-the eye/hyjal-black temple)
> more is required, including new dropped gear, new enchants, new gems.
>
> You will typically need to farm materials for flasks or elixirs of major
> shadow power for every raid and a couple of healing potions.
> Some shard farming is expected too. Note: if you were a priest, paladin,
> shaman, mage or healing druid much much more is expected (some say:
> a mana potion every time the cooldown is up).
>
> Getting 375 tailoring and full shadowweave will cost a lot of money,
> lot of farming of motes of shadow and some 3600 netherweave.
>
> [4] Choosing the guild
>
> I would suggest trying a guild thats only doing Karazhan / Gruul
> they can be much more forgiving than a guild doing serpent shrine cavern/
> the eye (not to speak of hyjal/black temple) and people in those guilds are
> probably less bored with the lower stuff.
> In addition kills will feel more like your own achievements.
>
> Note that even with good preparation will need to give you quite a bit
> equipment (from boss drops) before you will be on the level needed for
> the next boss they want to do.
> This will mean that they need to do the lesser instances longer and thats
> getting boring after 15+ times....
>
> What I mean... rejection is not pure arrogance.- Hide quoted text -
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Woah woah woah...

Locks are at the bottom of the "Need" list in instances?

Coulda fooled me with all the "Need lock or mage for Heroic ____"