[40K] Orks - Q:looted transports

Dogboy wrote:

> Only if you take multiples. Also a Looted Vehicle is 0-1 in Vanilla
> Orks and KoS


Codex Armageddon to the rescue - sort of..

There is a line in the KoS very beginning that explicitly says looted
vehicles can transport Orks. Yaay! *however* in the actual entries
('Ard Boyz * where *= must be transported in a ...) there is no mention
of looted vehicles, same kind of quandary with the BattleWagon, so if
you have a Land Raider for your Boss & Ret, do you also have to take a
B.W. and optionally not mount this HQ in it?

One unfortunate interpretation of all this is, in initial deployment you
must take the transports described and mount all your troops but as the
game progress, since Ork units are not assigned vehicles, you can jump
on and off any vehicles around, including looted ones.

BTW, I don't recall the 0-1 restriction on Looted vehicles in KoS, I
think the entry says B.W, Looted V. and GunTruks so if this is actually
correct you could take 3 L.R. BUT how many Orks in Mega Armor can you
put in a Land Raider, same as # of Termies? (I smell a house rule in the
making).

The Ork list confusion is very Orkish, well worthy of the Green Bubbas.

Mar - Yikes - IO
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>
> BTW, I don't recall the 0-1 restriction on Looted vehicles in KoS, I
> think the entry says B.W, Looted V. and GunTruks so if this is actually
> correct you could take 3 L.R. BUT how many Orks in Mega Armor can you
> put in a Land Raider, same as # of Termies? (I smell a house rule in the
> making).
>

The first print of Armageddon has Looted vehicles without the 0-1
restriction but subsequent printings have added it in. The only armies
it is possible to have more than one (over 50 point) looted vehicle is
the Blood Axes and Death Skulls clan armies, but they are still
restricted to 1 vehicle of each type. So you could have 1 Chimera, 1
Land Raider and 3 Rhinos if you wanted to.

There is nothing official regarding Mega armor and spaces, however I
think I recall back in 3rd that in the giant tome of "semi-official"
rules corrections that there was a mention of making them take up 2
spaces.

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Dogboy
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"Mario" <mtambay.TakeThisOut@mtroyal.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> There is a line in the KoS very beginning that explicitly says looted
> vehicles can transport Orks. Yaay! *however* in the actual entries ('Ard
> Boyz * where *= must be transported in a ...) there is no mention of
> looted vehicles, same kind of quandary with the BattleWagon, so if you
> have a Land Raider for your Boss & Ret, do you also have to take a B.W.
> and optionally not mount this HQ in it?

nah, that would be really stupid

> One unfortunate interpretation of all this is, in initial deployment you
> must take the transports described and mount all your troops but as the
> game progress, since Ork units are not assigned vehicles, you can jump on
> and off any vehicles around, including looted ones.

actually, in friendly games i wouldn't have a problem with that - it's
fairly well in character for orks

> BUT how many Orks in Mega Armor can you put in a Land Raider, same as # of
> Termies?

that seems sensible
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Spack wrote:

>>as far as i'm aware (unless there's been an update that says otherwise)
>>looted vehicles can't be used as transports at all.
>>
>>
>
>How about this from the old Ork Q&A:
>
>"Q. If I take 3 looted Rhinos, can they carry anyone (Rhino specifies
>Marines
>may be carried, not Orks)?
>A. I'm not even going to dignify this with an answer (yes)."
>
>This implies that all looted transports can carry Orks
>

Codex Armaggeddon to the rescue: Looted transports can be used to
transport Orks.
FAQ Armaggeddon (v4) to the rescue: A Warboss and his Nobs (sounds
funny) MUST be deployed in a B.W. or Wartruk, not a looted vehicle.

By implication this last bit means it is okay to deploy other Ork units
in looted vehicles.

Not very Orkish but then again, very GWish.

High time for a new Ork codex.

Mar - DE 4ever - IO
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Mario wrote on Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:21:31 GMT:

> Spack wrote:
>
>>> as far as i'm aware (unless there's been an update that says otherwise)
>>> looted vehicles can't be used as transports at all.
>>>
>> How about this from the old Ork Q&A:
>>
>> "Q. If I take 3 looted Rhinos, can they carry anyone (Rhino specifies
>> Marines
>> may be carried, not Orks)?
>> A. I'm not even going to dignify this with an answer (yes)."
>>
>> This implies that all looted transports can carry Orks
>>
> Codex Armaggeddon to the rescue: Looted transports can be used to
> transport Orks.
> FAQ Armaggeddon (v4) to the rescue: A Warboss and his Nobs (sounds funny)
> MUST be deployed in a B.W. or Wartruk, not a looted vehicle.
>
> By implication this last bit means it is okay to deploy other Ork units in
> looted vehicles.
>
> Not very Orkish but then again, very GWish.

I never noticed that. Then again, I'm not a Ork player - we just got our
first Ork player in our gaming group and I was flicking through the FAQs.

So Speed Freaks can't put the Warboss in the looted transport - but I'm
assuming Codex Orks armies can (Armageddon FAQ doesn't apply to them ).

Dan
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Dogboy wrote:

> > BTW, I don't recall the 0-1 restriction on Looted vehicles in KoS, I > think the entry says B.W, Looted V. and GunTruks so if this is actually > correct you could take 3 L.R. BUT how many Orks in Mega Armor can you > put in a Land Raider, same as # of Termies? (I smell a house rule in the > making). > The first print of Armageddon has Looted vehicles without the 0-1 restriction but subsequent printings have added it in. The only armies it is possible to have more than one (over 50 point) looted vehicle is the Blood Axes and Death Skulls clan armies, but they are still restricted to 1 vehicle of each type. So you could have 1 Chimera, 1 Land Raider and 3 Rhinos if you wanted to. There is nothing official regarding Mega armor and spaces, however I think I recall back in 3rd that in the giant tome of "semi-official" rules corrections that there was a mention of making them take up 2 spaces. -- Dogboy

Well in the codex it says that a Warboss and his bodyguard (10 models or less) may be mounted in a wartrukk at cost of +30 points.
It doesn't say anything about wearing mega-armour so a warboss with mega armour and 9 nobz w/ mega-armour could fit in a wartrukk.
So the mega-armour takes as much space as an Ork body armour (6+)
so they dont' take spaces of 2 orks.
I'm not sure if there is an official rule somewhere that says they take 2 spaces, but I haven't seen one.
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