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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:08:51 GMT, gemerynospam.RemoveThis@canada.com wrote:

>Yeah, just checked out that Medieval: Total War. Sort of missed having a
>closer look at that one. I only decided to check out Rome: Total War after a
>previous post in here. I am not too worried about the graphics there as I
>still play Shogun and it was the first in the series and the graphics for
>the most part are okay. Nothing like C3, but still good. Might try that one
>too Iakovos.I am finding the battlefield with mega armies and blowing stuff
>up, tearing stuff down and bombarding stuff into rubble as being somewhat
>appealing these days. Must be the winter weather! ))

Shogun was ok. It didn't hook me on to the series. Medieval was the
one I really started playing. But it had an annoying interface, and
various other issues, not to mention bad graphics.
And the pop up dialogs! My god! You had to click OK on each
information dialog it gave you every turn. In late game stages, there
used to be 20 dialogs I had to click through before I could begin my
next turn.
Rome TW changes all that and gives you a wonderful interface, not to
mention amazing graphics.

And contrary to what Iakovos says, after you play RTW a few times, you
know exactly what unit is best for what job and what the strengths of
each and every unit are. I've become so good at it that I can tell by
the name of the unit how it will do, but the stats of each unit give a
very good overall picture too.
And I agree, Medieval had too many units.

After you start playing RTW, you can even think about the expansion
pack, Barbarian Invasion. To tell you the truth, this one changes
quite a few gameplay mechanics and I'm not sure I really like it. But
its good and I do enjoy playing it.

>Yeah, BCOD had some good missions I enjoyed a lot. I think that was the one
>with Night Of The Wolves......the one where you had to blow up the two
>submarines. One of my favourite missions of all time. I still can't get
>Mission 8 I believe it was in BEL. Never was never able to get those two
>gaurds at the top of the road without setting off the alarms. That was the
>one where Tiny and the Sniper were in the desert and you had to blow up the
>fuel tanks in the compound after working your way down to the lower level.
>That was a real sporty mission for me indeed.
>

Yeah, the one you refer to was Pyrotechnics. I still remember the name
because I remember that at that time I thought how the name of the
mission matched the name of the developer (Pyro).
I had fun with that mission. Although it took a few tries...


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On 21 Nov 2005 16:03:35 -0800, "DeeEss57@aol.com" <DeeEss57.DeleteThis@aol.com>
wrote:

>I suppose you'll need Windows XP to play it like AOE III, which I'm mad
>that I can't. (I have Windows ME and I'm not about to spend megabucks
>to upgrade.)

I have never bought Windows but still have all the Windows versions,
including XP which I am using right now


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Well Phoenix, gonna find out cause I bought them both from Amazon. Medieval
was so cheap that if it is a write off, it won't hurt too much. Those pop up
dialogs though are probably what will kill if for me though. Shogun didn't
have that many in it, so I wonder why they thought it was needed in
Medieval.

A lot of times these game developers take a good game and make it worse by
trying to make it better....can't figure that one out. You would think the
beta testers, if they are in fact tested.....wouldn't pass it along or
something. Oh well.......will let you know what I think after I play a few
rounds.

Later

gemery
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<gemerynospam.TakeThisOut@canada.com> wrote in message
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> Well Phoenix, gonna find out cause I bought them both from Amazon.
> Medieval
> was so cheap that if it is a write off, it won't hurt too much. Those pop
> up
> dialogs though are probably what will kill if for me though. Shogun didn't
> have that many in it, so I wonder why they thought it was needed in
> Medieval.
>
> A lot of times these game developers take a good game and make it worse by
> trying to make it better....can't figure that one out. You would think the
> beta testers, if they are in fact tested.....wouldn't pass it along or
> something. Oh well.......will let you know what I think after I play a few
> rounds.
>
> Later
>
> gemery

Hi guys...new to this NG and picked the game back up after just playing BEL,
I downloaded Commandos 2 and
frankly hated the mechanics of the whole thing...totally different from BEL.
Was wondering if Comm 3 was more of
the same or if it is more like BEL?

BEL is the only version I've played and was wondering if BCD played similar
to it rather than the later versions? Any
mission expansions to either game. Thanks in advance.....

Dave
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"Phoenix AG" <contact.me DeleteThis @in.the.ng> wrote in message
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> Shogun was ok. It didn't hook me on to the series.

You are not in Japanese culture I see... not a samurai anyway :p


>Medieval was the one I really started playing. But it had an annoying
>interface, and
> various other issues, not to mention bad graphics.

Medieval was a bit more complex than shogun... in Shogun there was a pure
element in strategy and resources and a purety in combat... Medieval also
applied diplomacy into another level.


> And contrary to what Iakovos says, after you play RTW a few times, you
> know exactly what unit is best for what job and what the strengths of
> each and every unit are.

Well... since I haven't played much... I guess the "know how" will come
with experience.

> After you start playing RTW, you can even think about the expansion
> pack, Barbarian Invasion. To tell you the truth, this one changes
> quite a few gameplay mechanics and I'm not sure I really like it. But
> its good and I do enjoy playing it.

The expansion... it does not involve anything... Greek, right?

Iakovos:)
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"Phoenix AG" <contact.me DeleteThis @in.the.ng> wrote in message
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> I have never bought Windows but still have all the Windows versions,
> including XP which I am using right now

When I discovered the system specs, I am sure it said about XP only...
sorry to disappoint you.

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<gemerynospam.TakeThisOut@canada.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well Phoenix, gonna find out cause I bought them both from Amazon.
> Medieval
> was so cheap that if it is a write off, it won't hurt too much. Those pop
> up
> dialogs though are probably what will kill if for me though. Shogun didn't
> have that many in it, so I wonder why they thought it was needed in
> Medieval.

If you enjoy Medieval, there is also the expansion of it... Medieval Vikings
invasion...
but most importantly, there is an modification of the game (needing both the
game and the expansion), entitled Hellenic Total War.

Although RTW has superior graphics, HTW has more... a feel like home.. )))

Iakovos:)
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"Mulligan" <davewilson6969.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hi guys...new to this NG...

Well, hello Dave... there is a message for you... and welcome to the ng...

>...and picked the game back up after just playing BEL,

Which game do you mean here?

> I downloaded Commandos 2 and
> frankly hated the mechanics of the whole thing...totally different from
> BEL.

C2 was a total conversion and had better mechanics and graphics than CBEL
and CBTCOD.

>Was wondering if Comm 3 was more of the same or if it is more like BEL?

All 4 games (BEL, BCD, C2, C3) are similar in style and different in certain
areas. Even BCD, which is a follow up and a standalone game and not an
expansion, is a bit different than BEL.
>
> BEL is the only version I've played and was wondering if BCD played
> similar to it rather than the later versions?

As being released a bit of one and a half years after the original was out,
BCD is pretty close to the style of the BEL game.
I guess you'll enjoy it more than C2... since C2 has a variation of missions
with larger maps.

>Any mission expansions to either game. Thanks in advance.....

No expansions have been released to any game in the Commandos series. Only
some fan-made mods.

Cheers,
Iakovos:)
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"iakovos" <indianos.RemoveThis@ath.forthnet.gr> wrote in message
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>
> "Mulligan" <davewilson6969.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Ffmlf.32303$Zv5.24577@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Hi guys...new to this NG...
>
> Well, hello Dave... there is a message for you... and welcome to the ng...
>
>>...and picked the game back up after just playing BEL,
>
> Which game do you mean here?
>
>> I downloaded Commandos 2 and
>> frankly hated the mechanics of the whole thing...totally different from
>> BEL.
>
> C2 was a total conversion and had better mechanics and graphics than CBEL
> and CBTCOD.
>
>>Was wondering if Comm 3 was more of the same or if it is more like BEL?
>
> All 4 games (BEL, BCD, C2, C3) are similar in style and different in
> certain areas. Even BCD, which is a follow up and a standalone game and
> not an expansion, is a bit different than BEL.
>>
>> BEL is the only version I've played and was wondering if BCD played
>> similar to it rather than the later versions?
>
> As being released a bit of one and a half years after the original was
> out, BCD is pretty close to the style of the BEL game.
> I guess you'll enjoy it more than C2... since C2 has a variation of
> missions with larger maps.
>
>>Any mission expansions to either game. Thanks in advance.....
>
> No expansions have been released to any game in the Commandos series. Only
> some fan-made mods.
>
> Cheers,
> Iakovos:)

Tyvm for the info...I'll DL BCD instead of Comm 3 then, I just couldn't
stand Comm 2 it just
seemed like you (read as I) didn't have the same kind of control of my guys
and what were they thinking
with the "splash" effects when running and/or punching someone. : )

I'm hoping someone here gives a good detail review of the new Commandos game
set to release in Feb.

Dave
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:19:41 +0530, Sparx <smp1980.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi Dave:
>
>Welcome to our little group. It's been quiet these past weeks, but we
>hope to change that. C2 was the best of the series (IMHO), it had
>theperfect balance of gameplay, difficulty and had great music. FInding
>the little bonus books to get to the mini missions was also a nice touch.
>
>All the historical references that were put in were a subtle reminder to
>all those who know and recognize some of the glory of the Commandos.
>
>No mission packs for C2. C3 in fact plays out like C2 but with better
>graphics. Fewer commandos than in C2 means you need to re-learn all
>their skills and what they're best at.
>
>SPeak up as and when you feel like it. Look forward to hearing more from
>you.
>
>Side note: Phoenix + Iakovos - Hi guys !

Hey Sparx

I guess we're all here and excited for CSF this Feb


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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:38:57 +0200, "iakovos"
<indianos.DeleteThis@ath.forthnet.gr> wrote:

>
>"Phoenix AG" <contact.me.DeleteThis@in.the.ng> wrote in message
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>> Shogun was ok. It didn't hook me on to the series.
>
>You are not in Japanese culture I see... not a samurai anyway :p

Actually, I love Japanese culture and think its really fascinating.
Thats one of the reasons I picked Shogun up. But it just wasn't the
game I thought it would be. Even though it was interesting and I
played it for some time, I eventually got really bored of it and moved
on.

>>Medieval was the one I really started playing. But it had an annoying
>>interface, and
>> various other issues, not to mention bad graphics.
>
>Medieval was a bit more complex than shogun... in Shogun there was a pure
>element in strategy and resources and a purety in combat... Medieval also
>applied diplomacy into another level.

RTW has more diplomacy in it than MTW, in fact, it has a lot of the
subtleties of diplomacy as well. Its so realistic that sometimes you
make a mistake in thinking its just a game.
But still, diplomacy is handled intelligently in it so its not
annoying and broken like it was in MTW.

>> And contrary to what Iakovos says, after you play RTW a few times, you
>> know exactly what unit is best for what job and what the strengths of
>> each and every unit are.
>
>Well... since I haven't played much... I guess the "know how" will come
>with experience.
>
>> After you start playing RTW, you can even think about the expansion
>> pack, Barbarian Invasion. To tell you the truth, this one changes
>> quite a few gameplay mechanics and I'm not sure I really like it. But
>> its good and I do enjoy playing it.
>
>The expansion... it does not involve anything... Greek, right?

Nope, nothing at all Greek. Greece is in the control of the Romans in
the campaign part of BI, I think.


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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:40:45 +0200, "iakovos"
<indianos DeleteThis @ath.forthnet.gr> wrote:

>
>"Phoenix AG" <contact.me DeleteThis @in.the.ng> wrote in message
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>> I have never bought Windows but still have all the Windows versions,
>> including XP which I am using right now
>
>When I discovered the system specs, I am sure it said about XP only...
>sorry to disappoint you.

I was replying to DeeEss's post that he needed money to upgrade to XP,
not disputing the fact that it required only XP. Reread!


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DeeEss is actually a 'she'.


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