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The Cheshire Cat

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:17 am
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"Richard Busby" <richbusby RemoveThis @hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
>> "Kevin Milner" <dontspamme RemoveThis @ihatespam.net> wrote in message
>> news:lPgjj.33563$Zo3.25607@trnddc02...
>>> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e90bde00-565d-4aa0-b088-1db6eeb4e074@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
>>>> <martinfel... RemoveThis @sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>>>>> looks
>>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>>>>> one-off
>>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>>>>
>>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
>>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>>>
>>
>> then had a beer with the tau
> And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.

and erik posted about how they were ruined for him

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 am
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Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Doctor Rock said

> that's a fib - i have plenty of lead alloy figures from the
> early/mid-90s. I do vaguely remember the introduction of "white metal"
> and i'm damn sure it was no earlier than 1996.

IIRC "white metal" can contain lead but isn't considered a lead alloy per
se.

I also think I remember the change to Lead Free Pewter was driven by US law
and may have happened in that market first.

The CCM list probably knows if people are really interested.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 am
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"Erik Setzer" <kgavrin-at-gmail-dot-com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:04:30 -0800, "Martin Feller"
> <martinfeller DeleteThis @sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Stephen Weir" <postmaster DeleteThis @glipe.plus.net> wrote in message
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>>> Martin Feller wrote:
>>>> That's the one, but it's metal, same pose and everything. Probably a
>>>> cheap
>>>> knock-off/counterfeit then.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. Most of the plastic figures were preceded by metal
>>> prototypes. You'd be better off asking on the
>>> CollectingCitadelMiniatures
>>> Yahoo Group. Lots of collectors on there, and one of them will probably
>>> know if it's genuine or fake.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>
>>Kind of odd to find a prototype in a bargain bin in California... but I
>>guess stranger things have happened. I guess I'll just assume it's lead
>>either way and throw it up on the high shelves where little fingers (and
>>mouths) can't find it.
>
> That's exactly where I expect to find things like that, really.

do you often go looking on shelves for lead items to chew?
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 am
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"Robert Singers" <rsingers RemoveThis @finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Doctor Rock said
>
>> that's a fib - i have plenty of lead alloy figures from the
>> early/mid-90s. I do vaguely remember the introduction of "white metal"
>> and i'm damn sure it was no earlier than 1996.
>
> IIRC "white metal" can contain lead but isn't considered a lead alloy per
> se.

yeah but GW made a big deal about the new alloy having zero lead, and why
would GW lie to us???
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 am
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Martin Feller wrote:
> "Spack" <news.TakeThisOut@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fmkbna$vc0$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> "Martin Feller" <martinfeller.TakeThisOut@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
>> news:i7gjj.121$nK5.101@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>> According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not for
>> over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)
>>
>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>>> looks like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>>> one-off figure for RT, or were there more made?
>> Seamus mentioned the chaos android, if it's plastic then this is likely
>> what it is and was included in the Advanced Space Crusade game. Here's a
>> pic: http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/cf/e8/5a40_1.JPG is that what you
>> have?
>
> That's the one, but it's metal, same pose and everything. Probably a cheap
> knock-off/counterfeit then.
>
>


Nope, it's an unreleased model apparently.

http://www.collecting-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Space_Crusade_-_Unreleased

Cant find any more info about it however, maybe try contacting the guys
who made that site.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 am
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oeb wrote:
> Nope, it's an unreleased model apparently.
>
http://www.collecting-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Space_Crusade_-_Unreleased
> Cant find any more info about it however, maybe try contacting the guys
> who made that site.

That would be a couple of the collectors from the
CollectingCitadelMiniatures Yahoo Group I mentioned. They created the
site to fully catalogue a lot of figures not shown on The Stuff of
Legends, especially rare and unreleased figures.

Stephen
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:02 am
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On Jan 17, 12:00 pm, Myrmidon <im... RemoveThis @home.com> wrote:
> > do you often go looking on shelves for lead items to chew?
>
> It would explain one hell of a lot...

"When asked if he ate paint chips, Timmy replied, 'To Hell with chips,
bitch! I drink straight from the can!' His parents seemed
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:00 pm
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In article <tjHjj.13$xm1.9@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
malafex DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk says...
>
> >>Kind of odd to find a prototype in a bargain bin in California... but I
> >>guess stranger things have happened. I guess I'll just assume it's lead
> >>either way and throw it up on the high shelves where little fingers (and
> >>mouths) can't find it.
> >
> > That's exactly where I expect to find things like that, really.
>
> do you often go looking on shelves for lead items to chew?
>
It would explain one hell of a lot...

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:26 pm
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The Cheshire Cat wrote:
> "Richard Busby" <richbusby.DeleteThis@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Wrnjj.51770$Mu4.18787@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
>>> "Kevin Milner" <dontspamme.DeleteThis@ihatespam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:lPgjj.33563$Zo3.25607@trnddc02...
>>>> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e90bde00-565d-4aa0-b088-1db6eeb4e074@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
>>>>> <martinfel....DeleteThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>>>>>> looks
>>>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>>>>>> one-off
>>>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>>>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
>>>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>>>>
>>> then had a beer with the tau
>> And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.
>
> and erik posted about how they were ruined for him
>
>

And then Tyranids ate his homeworld.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:24 pm
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"oeb" <what.will.i.do.with.a.gig.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
>> "Richard Busby" <richbusby.RemoveThis@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:Wrnjj.51770$Mu4.18787@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
>>>> "Kevin Milner" <dontspamme.RemoveThis@ihatespam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:lPgjj.33563$Zo3.25607@trnddc02...
>>>>> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e90bde00-565d-4aa0-b088-1db6eeb4e074@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
>>>>>> <martinfel....RemoveThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>>>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has
>>>>>>> what looks
>>>>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>>>>>>> one-off
>>>>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>>>>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
>>>>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>>>>>
>>>> then had a beer with the tau
>>> And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.
>>
>> and erik posted about how they were ruined for him
>
> And then Tyranids ate his homeworld.

Tyranids ate Florida, so which state will the Republicans have to buy now to
win?
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:24 pm
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In article <fmoa1h$7nt$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
estarriol DeleteThis @estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk says...
>
>
> "oeb" <what.will.i.do.with.a.gig DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0AJjj.24184$j7.448861@news.indigo.ie...
> > The Cheshire Cat wrote:
> >> "Richard Busby" <richbusby DeleteThis @hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Wrnjj.51770$Mu4.18787@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> >>> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
> >>>> "Kevin Milner" <dontspamme DeleteThis @ihatespam.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:lPgjj.33563$Zo3.25607@trnddc02...
> >>>>> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:e90bde00-565d-4aa0-b088-1db6eeb4e074@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
> >>>>>> <martinfel... DeleteThis @sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has
> >>>>>>> what looks
> >>>>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
> >>>>>>> one-off
> >>>>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
> >>>>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
> >>>>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
> >>>>>
> >>>> then had a beer with the tau
> >>> And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.
> >>
> >> and erik posted about how they were ruined for him
> >
> > And then Tyranids ate his homeworld.
>
> Tyranids ate Florida, so which state will the Republicans have to buy now to
> win?
>
Ahhhh, Ebay - is there anything you can't buy there? I bid on the
wrong auction once and accidently bought a Senator...

Myr Smile

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:06 pm
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"Myrmidon" <imnot.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote in message
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> In article <fmoa1h$7nt$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
> estarriol.TakeThisOut@estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk says...
>>
>>
>> "oeb" <what.will.i.do.with.a.gig.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0AJjj.24184$j7.448861@news.indigo.ie...
>> > The Cheshire Cat wrote:
>> >> "Richard Busby" <richbusby.TakeThisOut@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:Wrnjj.51770$Mu4.18787@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>> >>> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
>> >>>> "Kevin Milner" <dontspamme.TakeThisOut@ihatespam.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:lPgjj.33563$Zo3.25607@trnddc02...
>> >>>>> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:e90bde00-565d-4aa0-b088-1db6eeb4e074@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
>> >>>>>> <martinfel....TakeThisOut@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has
>> >>>>>>> what looks
>> >>>>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just
>> >>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>> one-off
>> >>>>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>> >>>>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
>> >>>>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> then had a beer with the tau
>> >>> And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.
>> >>
>> >> and erik posted about how they were ruined for him
>> >
>> > And then Tyranids ate his homeworld.
>>
>> Tyranids ate Florida, so which state will the Republicans have to buy now
>> to
>> win?
>>
> Ahhhh, Ebay - is there anything you can't buy there? I bid on the
> wrong auction once and accidently bought a Senator...
>

Was it house trained?
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:59 pm
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On Jan 17, 2:57 pm, Myrmidon <im....TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
> In article <fmoa1h$7nt$1$8302b...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> estarr....TakeThisOut@estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "oeb" <what.will.i.do.with.a.....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:0AJjj.24184$j7.448861@news.indigo.ie...
> > > The Cheshire Cat wrote:
> > >> "Richard Busby" <richbu....TakeThisOut@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > >>news:Wrnjj.51770$Mu4.18787@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> > >>> The Cheshire Cat wrote:
> > >>>> "Kevin Milner" <dontspa....TakeThisOut@ihatespam.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:lPgjj.33563$Zo3.25607@trnddc02...
> > >>>>> "Seamus" <fomorianw....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>news:e90bde00-565d-4aa0-b088-1db6eeb4e074@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
> > >>>>>> <martinfel....TakeThisOut@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>
> > >>>>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has
> > >>>>>>> what looks
> > >>>>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
> > >>>>>>> one-off
> > >>>>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
> > >>>>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>
> > >>>>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
> > >>>>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>
> > >>>> then had a beer with the tau
> > >>> And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.
>
> > >> and erik posted about how they were ruined for him
>
> > > And then Tyranids ate his homeworld.
>
> > Tyranids ate Florida, so which state will the Republicans have to buy now to
> > win?
>
>         Ahhhh, Ebay - is there anything you can't buy there?  I bid on the
> wrong auction once and accidently bought a Senator...

you shouldn't have left him unattended in that airport restroom Myr.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:57 am
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In article <2a4f2bd2-de15-4dc5-a3ed-
3a9c4586922e.TakeThisOut@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, blackheart666_2000.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com
says...
> > Ahhhh, Ebay - is there anything you can't buy there? I bid on the
> > wrong auction once and accidently bought a Senator...
>
> you shouldn't have left him unattended in that airport restroom Myr.
>
Hey, when they said they had an 'open goverment' policy, how was I
to know that ment 'open legs' too?

Myr

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:42 am
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Hey,

On Jan 17, 3:06 pm, "estarriol"
<estarr....RemoveThis@estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk> wrote:
> "Myrmidon" <im....RemoveThis@home.com> wrote in message
> > I bid on the
> > wrong auction once and accidently bought a Senator...
>
> Was it house trained?

LOL! Whether or not this was intentional, it's a keeper. :- D


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