Two old figure questions

"Seamus" <fomorianwolf.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
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>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>
>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>> looks
>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>> one-off
>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>
> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>
> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.

Tyranids ate their homeworld.
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"Kevin Milner" <dontspamme.DeleteThis@ihatespam.net> wrote in message
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> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
>> <martinfel....DeleteThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>
>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>>> looks
>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>>> one-off
>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>>
>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>>
>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
>
> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>

then had a beer with the tau
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"Martin Feller" <martinfeller.TakeThisOut@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?

According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not for
over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)

> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
> looks like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
> one-off figure for RT, or were there more made?

Seamus mentioned the chaos android, if it's plastic then this is likely what
it is and was included in the Advanced Space Crusade game. Here's a pic:
http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/cf/e8/5a40_1.JPG is that what you have?

If it's metal it might be the old very first Necron, I did have one kicking
around that I got free with WD when it was released long long ago but I
don't remember it having a chaos symbol on it's head.

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The Cheshire Cat wrote:
> "Kevin Milner" <dontspamme.RemoveThis@ihatespam.net> wrote in message
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>> "Seamus" <fomorianwolf.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Jan 15, 11:55 pm, "Martin Feller"
>>> <martinfel....RemoveThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>>
>>>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>>>> looks
>>>> like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>>>> one-off
>>>> figure for RT, or were there more made?
>>> What you're describing sounds an awful lot like a Chaos Android.
>>>
>>> Those were pretty short-lived, IIRC.
>> Tyranids ate their homeworld.
>>
>
> then had a beer with the tau
>
>
And then Gazkhull sat on them and they died.
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"Martin Feller" <martinfeller.DeleteThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?

96 or 97, iirc.

> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
> looks like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
> one-off figure for RT, or were there more made?

if it's plastic, it's one of the Chaos Androids from Space Crusade.
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"Spack" <news.DeleteThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Martin Feller" <martinfeller.DeleteThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>
> According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not for
> over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)

that's a fib - i have plenty of lead alloy figures from the early/mid-90s.
I do vaguely remember the introduction of "white metal" and i'm damn sure it
was no earlier than 1996.
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"Doctor Rock" <malafex.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Spack" <news.DeleteThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "Martin Feller" <martinfeller.DeleteThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
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>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>
>> According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not
>> for over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)
>
> that's a fib - i have plenty of lead alloy figures from the early/mid-90s.
> I do vaguely remember the introduction of "white metal" and i'm damn sure
> it was no earlier than 1996.

It does sound wrong.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadel_Miniatures (although I
don't put too much faith in Wikis) it was 1997, which at least sounds more
plausible.

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"Spack" <news.TakeThisOut@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Doctor Rock" <malafex.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "Spack" <news.TakeThisOut@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> "Martin Feller" <martinfeller.TakeThisOut@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
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>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>
>>> According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not
>>> for over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)
>>
>> that's a fib - i have plenty of lead alloy figures from the
>> early/mid-90s. I do vaguely remember the introduction of "white metal"
>> and i'm damn sure it was no earlier than 1996.
>
> It does sound wrong.
>
> According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadel_Miniatures (although I
> don't put too much faith in Wikis) it was 1997, which at least sounds more
> plausible.

A bit more digging and I found this:
http://www.lead.org.au/lasn/lasn014.html which is apparently from the Feb
1997 issue of White Dwarf, and at that time they were still working out when
to introduce it, so at the earliest it would have been sometime during 1997.

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:00:16 -0000, "Spack" <news.RemoveThis@worldofspack.co.uk>
wrote:

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>"Spack" <news.RemoveThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "Doctor Rock" <malafex.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> "Spack" <news.RemoveThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>> "Martin Feller" <martinfeller.RemoveThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
>>>> news:i7gjj.121$nK5.101@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>>>>
>>>> According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not
>>>> for over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)
>>>
>>> that's a fib - i have plenty of lead alloy figures from the
>>> early/mid-90s. I do vaguely remember the introduction of "white metal"
>>> and i'm damn sure it was no earlier than 1996.
>>
>> It does sound wrong.
>>
>> According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadel_Miniatures (although I
>> don't put too much faith in Wikis) it was 1997, which at least sounds more
>> plausible.
>
>A bit more digging and I found this:
>http://www.lead.org.au/lasn/lasn014.html which is apparently from the Feb
>1997 issue of White Dwarf, and at that time they were still working out when
>to introduce it, so at the earliest it would have been sometime during 1997.

How about that, GW legal lying in order to drum up reasons to go after
people. Who could have seen that coming?

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"Spack" <news.RemoveThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Martin Feller" <martinfeller.RemoveThis@sxfxcxgxlxoxbxaxlx.nxext> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone know what year GW stopped using lead?
>
> According to http://uk.games-workshop.com/legal/counterfeiters/1/ not for
> over 15 years (and add onto that the age of that page too)
>
>> Also, I've got an old figure that looks like a necron, but it has what
>> looks like an autogun and a chaos symbol on its forehead. Was this just a
>> one-off figure for RT, or were there more made?
>
> Seamus mentioned the chaos android, if it's plastic then this is likely
> what it is and was included in the Advanced Space Crusade game. Here's a
> pic: http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/cf/e8/5a40_1.JPG is that what you
> have?

That's the one, but it's metal, same pose and everything. Probably a cheap
knock-off/counterfeit then.
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Martin Feller wrote:
> That's the one, but it's metal, same pose and everything. Probably a cheap
> knock-off/counterfeit then.

Not necessarily. Most of the plastic figures were preceded by metal
prototypes. You'd be better off asking on the CollectingCitadelMiniatures
Yahoo Group. Lots of collectors on there, and one of them will probably
know if it's genuine or fake.

Stephen
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"Stephen Weir" <postmaster.TakeThisOut@glipe.plus.net> wrote in message
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> Martin Feller wrote:
>> That's the one, but it's metal, same pose and everything. Probably a
>> cheap
>> knock-off/counterfeit then.
>
> Not necessarily. Most of the plastic figures were preceded by metal
> prototypes. You'd be better off asking on the CollectingCitadelMiniatures
> Yahoo Group. Lots of collectors on there, and one of them will probably
> know if it's genuine or fake.
>
> Stephen

Kind of odd to find a prototype in a bargain bin in California... but I
guess stranger things have happened. I guess I'll just assume it's lead
either way and throw it up on the high shelves where little fingers (and
mouths) can't find it.
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:04:30 -0800, "Martin Feller"
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>"Stephen Weir" <postmaster DeleteThis @glipe.plus.net> wrote in message
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>> Martin Feller wrote:
>>> That's the one, but it's metal, same pose and everything. Probably a
>>> cheap
>>> knock-off/counterfeit then.
>>
>> Not necessarily. Most of the plastic figures were preceded by metal
>> prototypes. You'd be better off asking on the CollectingCitadelMiniatures
>> Yahoo Group. Lots of collectors on there, and one of them will probably
>> know if it's genuine or fake.
>>
>> Stephen
>
>Kind of odd to find a prototype in a bargain bin in California... but I
>guess stranger things have happened. I guess I'll just assume it's lead
>either way and throw it up on the high shelves where little fingers (and
>mouths) can't find it.

That's exactly where I expect to find things like that, really.

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