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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:16 am
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"J. P. Morris" <jpm RemoveThis @it-he.org> wrote in message
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> The Triad wrote:
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>>> In U6, it didn't really matter what order one did things -- even
>>> teleporting to the gargoyle world with the Orb of the Moons at the
>>> start of the game had a built-in way of balancing things out.
>>
>> ...I've forgotten. What happened if one just slaughtered all the
>> gargoyles?
>
> He said 'it didn't really matter what ORDER one did things', not
> 'it didn't really matter what one did'.
> U6 isn't self-stabilising enough to prevent sabotage >
Ahh. *smiles*
> There's a lot of ways you could total the game, killing key
> plot characters and then burning their corpses.. casting VANISH
> on critical objects might work too.
*grins*
(How does one burn a corpse? And what happened if one killed them, but
didn't then burn their corpses? Or was it that they could be ressurected if
their corpses weren't burned? *thinks for a moment* To sum up, more or
less--could one ressurect gargoyles?)
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:19 pm
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The Triad wrote:
> "J. P. Morris" <jpm RemoveThis @it-he.org> wrote in message
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>>He said 'it didn't really matter what ORDER one did things', not
>>'it didn't really matter what one did'.
>>U6 isn't self-stabilising enough to prevent sabotage >
>
> Ahh. *smiles*
>
>>There's a lot of ways you could total the game, killing key
>>plot characters and then burning their corpses.. casting VANISH
>>on critical objects might work too.
>
> *grins*
>
> (How does one burn a corpse? And what happened if one killed them, but
> didn't then burn their corpses? Or was it that they could be ressurected if
> their corpses weren't burned? *thinks for a moment* To sum up, more or
> less--could one ressurect gargoyles?)
You can't burn corpses, but for about 30 gold a pop, you can get the nice man
in Empath to do it for you. His eyes gleam fiendishly as he notices the
body you are carrying.
If you kill someone but leave them around, you can resurrect their bodies,
although it isn't always successful (hence my 'undead' utility to resurrect
people's minds). I've heard there is a way to force a soft-reset of people
using magic (the Charm or Fear spells might work, something that changes
their internal goals) but I've never actually got around to trying it.
If you burn or otherwise lose the body, resurrection becomes vastly more
difficult, although it is possible to achieve with a bit of hacking
(e.g. sacrificing Dupre, and then resurrecting him with the other NPC's
mind). This also transforms Dupre's body into a more suitable host, so you
won't get Finn etc running around in the form of a knight.
[See the U6 section of my website for the gory details.]
It is impossible to resurrect mature gargoyles in-game. I don't know about
immature/wingless gargoyles, such as Beh-Lem.
It should be possible to resurrect Dupre's body into a gargoyle, but you
might only get 1/4 of the body or other nasty effects (like when joining
Smith into the party.. his ass gets left behind when he moves around).
Definitely worth trying.. >
[What happens if you resurrect Smith into Dupre's body..?]
>
> *smiles quietly to self, imagining*
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:03 am
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Quoth JP Morris <jpm RemoveThis @it-he.org>:
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> [What happens if you resurrect Smith into Dupre's body..?]
Lumina might get on a bit better with Smith if he saw him drunk. And
certainly if he saw him drawn. 
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:29 am
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"JP Morris" <jpm.TakeThisOut@it-he.org> wrote in message
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> The Triad wrote:
>> "J. P. Morris" <jpm.TakeThisOut@it-he.org> wrote in message
>>>He said 'it didn't really matter what ORDER one did things', not
>>>'it didn't really matter what one did'.
>>>U6 isn't self-stabilising enough to prevent sabotage >
>>
>> Ahh. *smiles*
>>
>>>There's a lot of ways you could total the game, killing key
>>>plot characters and then burning their corpses.. casting VANISH
>>>on critical objects might work too.
>>
>> *grins*
>>
>> (How does one burn a corpse? And what happened if one killed them, but
>> didn't then burn their corpses? Or was it that they could be ressurected
>> if their corpses weren't burned? *thinks for a moment* To sum up, more
>> or less--could one ressurect gargoyles?)
>
> You can't burn corpses, but for about 30 gold a pop, you can get the nice
> man
> in Empath to do it for you. His eyes gleam fiendishly as he notices the
> body you are carrying.
>
> If you kill someone but leave them around, you can resurrect their bodies,
> although it isn't always successful (hence my 'undead' utility to
> resurrect
> people's minds). I've heard there is a way to force a soft-reset of
> people
> using magic (the Charm or Fear spells might work, something that changes
> their internal goals) but I've never actually got around to trying it.
>
> If you burn or otherwise lose the body, resurrection becomes vastly more
> difficult, although it is possible to achieve with a bit of hacking
> (e.g. sacrificing Dupre, and then resurrecting him with the other NPC's
> mind). This also transforms Dupre's body into a more suitable host, so
> you
> won't get Finn etc running around in the form of a knight.
> [See the U6 section of my website for the gory details.]
>
> It is impossible to resurrect mature gargoyles in-game. I don't know
> about
> immature/wingless gargoyles, such as Beh-Lem.
> It should be possible to resurrect Dupre's body into a gargoyle, but you
> might only get 1/4 of the body or other nasty effects (like when joining
> Smith into the party.. his ass gets left behind when he moves around).
>
> Definitely worth trying.. >
>
> [What happens if you resurrect Smith into Dupre's body..?]
....very interesting...
*curiously goes to website to refresh memory*
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:26 am
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<snip>
Thoughts: what happens if you give a corpse the number of someone yet
alive? What happens if you give it the Avatar's number?
Also, what defines a corpse to be a corpse, as far as healers and
cremationists are concerned? Could 'spare parts' be ordered via Iolo?
Could one have a piece of cheese that one could ressurect into a dead
character, or an edible corpse? And with the former, if possible, what is
the result of attempting to ressurect the original corpse of the dead
character?
*wonders*
(Also, a more semi-mundane question: what objects /cannot/ be Animated?
And what do Animated objects generally do, or how do they act?
*...imagines, smiling quietly to himself...*)
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:34 pm
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The Triad wrote:
> <snip>
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> Thoughts: what happens if you give a corpse the number of someone yet
> alive? What happens if you give it the Avatar's number?
> Also, what defines a corpse to be a corpse, as far as healers and
> cremationists are concerned? Could 'spare parts' be ordered via Iolo?
Probably. I didn't try that, though.
Resurrecting copies of people is.. interesting. I resurrected Tiberius
(who was the healer doing the resurrection) but I only ended up with
one person and 400 less gold.
However, resurrecting someone far away does seem to work, although I
suspect that the game has merely 'summoned' them from their original
location. I did this was Naxatillor the Seer.
I also did it with Smith, although I'd forgotten the original was
still alive.
Naxatillor worked perfectly, although I had to kill him with a
cannon I summoned up, since killing him in cold blood will prevent
him from resurrecting properly.
As for Smith, that was not so good:
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/magnu.gif
(I was listening to 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at the time.
Just as I got around to Tiberius, with Finn programmed to be
Smith, it began playing 'The Conjuration Of Magnu', also about
a horse being summoned. I thought it was extremely apt.)
> Could one have a piece of cheese that one could ressurect into a dead
> character, or an edible corpse? And with the former, if possible, what is
> the result of attempting to ressurect the original corpse of the dead
> character?
I suspect that it has to be a 'dead body' class object for the healer
to recognise it as a corpse.. they don't usually offer to resurrect
cheeses. You might be able to get the 'frame overflow' effect to create
a corpse in the shape of a cheese, though the numbers are probably
too far out for that.
>
> *wonders*
>
> (Also, a more semi-mundane question: what objects /cannot/ be Animated?
> And what do Animated objects generally do, or how do they act?
> *...imagines, smiling quietly to himself...*)
I don't use that spell much, and I can't remember what it does.
IIRC 'enchant' allows you to make weapons come to life and kill people
in Your name..
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:36 pm
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Samurai wrote:
> Quoth JP Morris <jpm.DeleteThis@it-he.org>:
> ...
>> [What happens if you resurrect Smith into Dupre's body..?]
>
> Lumina might get on a bit better with Smith if he saw him drunk. And
> certainly if he saw him drawn.
Well, it cuts him in half. Is that good enough?
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:01 pm
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"J. P. Morris" <jpm DeleteThis @it-he.org> wrote in message
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> The Triad wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Thoughts: what happens if you give a corpse the number of someone yet
>> alive? What happens if you give it the Avatar's number?
>
>> Also, what defines a corpse to be a corpse, as far as healers and
>> cremationists are concerned? Could 'spare parts' be ordered via Iolo?
>
> Probably. I didn't try that, though.
>
> Resurrecting copies of people is.. interesting. I resurrected Tiberius
> (who was the healer doing the resurrection) but I only ended up with
> one person and 400 less gold.
>
> However, resurrecting someone far away does seem to work, although I
> suspect that the game has merely 'summoned' them from their original
> location. I did this was Naxatillor the Seer.
> I also did it with Smith, although I'd forgotten the original was
> still alive.
>
> Naxatillor worked perfectly, although I had to kill him with a
> cannon I summoned up, since killing him in cold blood will prevent
> him from resurrecting properly.
>
> As for Smith, that was not so good:
> http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/magnu.gif
*amusement*
> (I was listening to 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at the time.
> Just as I got around to Tiberius, with Finn programmed to be
> Smith, it began playing 'The Conjuration Of Magnu', also about
> a horse being summoned. I thought it was extremely apt.)
*thinks; goes to look up*
>> Could one have a piece of cheese that one could ressurect into a dead
>> character, or an edible corpse? And with the former, if possible, what
>> is
>> the result of attempting to ressurect the original corpse of the dead
>> character?
>
> I suspect that it has to be a 'dead body' class object for the healer
> to recognise it as a corpse.. they don't usually offer to resurrect
> cheeses. You might be able to get the 'frame overflow' effect to create
> a corpse in the shape of a cheese,
*nods* That was the idea.
> though the numbers are probably
> too far out for that.
Ah, well.
>> *wonders*
>>
>> (Also, a more semi-mundane question: what objects /cannot/ be Animated?
>> And what do Animated objects generally do, or how do they act?
>> *...imagines, smiling quietly to himself...*)
>
> I don't use that spell much, and I can't remember what it does.
> IIRC 'enchant' allows you to make weapons come to life and kill people
> in Your name..
Hmm. Interesting.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:32 pm
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The Triad wrote:
>> Naxatillor worked perfectly, although I had to kill him with a
>> cannon I summoned up, since killing him in cold blood will prevent
>> him from resurrecting properly.
>>
>> As for Smith, that was not so good:
>> http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/magnu.gif
>
> *amusement*
>
>> (I was listening to 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at the time.
>> Just as I got around to Tiberius, with Finn programmed to be
>> Smith, it began playing 'The Conjuration Of Magnu', also about
>> a horse being summoned. I thought it was extremely apt.)
>
> *thinks; goes to look up*
This doesn't really do it justice, but:
http://www.hawkwind.com/lyr/mag.htm
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:14 pm
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Quoth "J. P. Morris" <jpm.TakeThisOut@it-he.org>:
> Samurai wrote:
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>> And certainly if he saw him drawn.
>
> Well, it cuts him in half. Is that good enough?
Hence the comment about being drawn.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:03 am
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"J. P. Morris" <jpm.DeleteThis@it-he.org> wrote in message
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> The Triad wrote:
>
>>> Naxatillor worked perfectly, although I had to kill him with a
>>> cannon I summoned up, since killing him in cold blood will prevent
>>> him from resurrecting properly.
>>>
>>> As for Smith, that was not so good:
>>> http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/magnu.gif
>>
>> *amusement*
>>
>>> (I was listening to 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at the time.
>>> Just as I got around to Tiberius, with Finn programmed to be
>>> Smith, it began playing 'The Conjuration Of Magnu', also about
>>> a horse being summoned. I thought it was extremely apt.)
>>
>> *thinks; goes to look up*
>
> This doesn't really do it justice, but:
>
> http://www.hawkwind.com/lyr/mag.htm
Very interesting. Assuming that in its totality it's not just poetry, what
is the music like?
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:59 pm
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The Triad wrote:
> "J. P. Morris" <jpm.DeleteThis@it-he.org> wrote in message
> news:42a4b18c$0$41899$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>> The Triad wrote:
>>
>>>> Naxatillor worked perfectly, although I had to kill him with a
>>>> cannon I summoned up, since killing him in cold blood will prevent
>>>> him from resurrecting properly.
>>>>
>>>> As for Smith, that was not so good:
>>>> http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/magnu.gif
>>>
>>> *amusement*
>>>
>>>> (I was listening to 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at the time.
>>>> Just as I got around to Tiberius, with Finn programmed to be
>>>> Smith, it began playing 'The Conjuration Of Magnu', also about
>>>> a horse being summoned. I thought it was extremely apt.)
>>>
>>> *thinks; goes to look up*
>>
>> This doesn't really do it justice, but:
>>
>> http://www.hawkwind.com/lyr/mag.htm
>
> Very interesting. Assuming that in its totality it's not just poetry,
> what is the music like?
On this album ('Live Chronicles') there are two tracks, the intro,
which is the first verse spoken word, followed by the main track which
is pretty much the same flavour as the rest of the album.
I have not heard the studio version.
Think mid 80's epic metal. I see a lot of parallels with Spinal Tap,
and Iron Maiden's vaguely prog-like 'Seventh Son' album.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:32 pm
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"J. P. Morris" <jpm RemoveThis @it-he.org> wrote in message
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> The Triad wrote:
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>> "J. P. Morris" <jpm RemoveThis @it-he.org> wrote in message
>> news:42a4b18c$0$41899$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>>> The Triad wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Naxatillor worked perfectly, although I had to kill him with a
>>>>> cannon I summoned up, since killing him in cold blood will prevent
>>>>> him from resurrecting properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for Smith, that was not so good:
>>>>> http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/magnu.gif
>>>>
>>>> *amusement*
>>>>
>>>>> (I was listening to 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at the time.
>>>>> Just as I got around to Tiberius, with Finn programmed to be
>>>>> Smith, it began playing 'The Conjuration Of Magnu', also about
>>>>> a horse being summoned. I thought it was extremely apt.)
>>>>
>>>> *thinks; goes to look up*
>>>
>>> This doesn't really do it justice, but:
>>>
>>> http://www.hawkwind.com/lyr/mag.htm
>>
>> Very interesting. Assuming that in its totality it's not just poetry,
>> what is the music like?
>
> On this album ('Live Chronicles') there are two tracks, the intro,
> which is the first verse spoken word, followed by the main track which
> is pretty much the same flavour as the rest of the album.
> I have not heard the studio version.
>
> Think mid 80's epic metal. I see a lot of parallels with Spinal Tap,
> and Iron Maiden's vaguely prog-like 'Seventh Son' album.
Ah.
*thinks*
....for the record, I've never (to my knowledge) heard anything even vaguely
related to the terms mentioned in your last paragraph.
Can the equivalent be explained in practical terms? If not, thank you
anyway.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:44 am
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Greetings.
In article <Fk9ne.8682$BR4.7134@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Wesley wrote:
> Which part do you like best ?
In order from best to worst:
Ultima V
Ultima IV
Ultima III
Ultima VII
Ultima VI
Serpent Isle
Savage Empire
Ultima VIII
Martian Dreams
Ultima I
Ultima IX
Ultima II
Akalabeth
Haven't yet got around to playing the Ultima Underworlds, so no ranking for
them.
For reference, here's roughly the order in which I started playing them and
when I finished them:
Ultima III (ca. 1986, completed ca. 1991)
Ultima IV (ca. 1987, completed ca. 1992)
Ultima V (25 December 1988, completed ca. 1994)
Ultima I (1988, completed ca. 1997)
Ultima II (1988, never completed)
Ultima VI (25 December 1990, completed ca. 1991)
Savage Empire (1990, completed ca. 1991)
Martian Dreams (1991, completed 1991)
Ultima VIII (1994, completed 1995)
Ultima VII (1997, completed 1997)
Serpent Isle (1998, never completed due to annoying bug)
Ultima IX (September 2000, completed 2000)
Akalabeth (2001, never completed)
Ultimas I through V were played on the Commodore 64; the rest on an IBM PC.
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Tristan
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:19 am
Post subject: Re: Your favourite Ultima [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"J. P. Morris" <jpm DeleteThis @it-he.org> wrote in news:429f52e4$0$7587$ed2619ec@ptn-
nntp-reader03.plus.net:
> There's a lot of ways you could total the game, killing key
> plot characters and then burning their corpses.. casting VANISH
> on critical objects might work too.
Which reminds me, you ever play Knights of The Old Republic (I or II)?
Not only can you be a complete bastard, the game recognizes that you're a
complete bastard and starts to play along.
The Ultima games needed more multiple endings.
-==Kensu==-
"You're the Avatar! You were supposed to destroy Lord Blackthorn, not join
him!" -Dupre/Ultima V alternate ending >> Stay informed about: Your favourite Ultima |
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