enchanted weapons

Greg Johnson wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:08:04 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
> <gmearnest.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I imagined that the only way to do it was to play the wedges game that you
>>get when you try to get someone to like you.
>
>
> Yes, that is the way it works. Speechcraft is totally broken and
> useless in Oblivion, which is a pity, because it was a good and useful
> skill in Morrowind.
>
>
>>But by the time you can do anything with the wedges, your personality is so
>>great that you get "disposition maxed out" and can't do anything, or so it
>>seems.
>
>
> The way to raise speechcraft is to repeatedly play the wedges game
> over and over, just clicking on the largest wedge, _before_ you have a
> good enough reputation and personality that the game becomes
> unavailable. This won't actually be helpful to you in making people
> like you better, but it will increase the skill, and is, apart from
> training, the only practical way to do so. Once you have a good
> disposition, you can basically never raise speechcraft again. As I
> said, totally broken.

Ahh, well if its game bug, then yeah, i agree using the console is probably
the best option. I was sort of stunned that you would suggest it outright
like that at first. If its a known bug, do they plan a patch for it?
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:42:05 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"William" wrote...
>
>> When enhancing armor, every attempt to enhance for feather, or life detect
>> or fire/frost/shock protection always falls 1/3 or worse behind what I can
>> pickup around Oblivion. Enhancing weapons/armor is only a short-term
>> solution until you come across something in Oblivion that is better.
>>
>> I'm at $ 29,910,000 and going for 30 million! I am also going around
>> shooting everything with arrows, sneaking up to them, blocking their
>> attacks, and jumping off of tall buildings trying to level up the last
>> things I have left to do. ( I still don't like speech craft).
>
>
>
>Speaking of speech craft, is there any way to get it to go up?
>

Playing the wedges mini game is how you get speech craft to go up. It
is not that hard to play the mini game - I can always get any one to
the max. When trying to increase speech craft (rather than just get a
person to max liking me), I have to deliberately make it go down part
of the time rather than up. Guards are good for working on speech
craft when your personality is high because they tend to not be at max
to begin, no matter how high your personality. Once I get personality
maxxed, I don't bother with speech craft unless I find a shop keeper
or some quest person that needs to be persuaded, so I have never come
close to maximizing speech craft just to be complete.

Cam
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> Well, the limiting part is the black/grand soul gem, you are limited to
> just one each time. I am currently at level 50 so money is no issue. I
> have tried multiple times to enhance swords, maces, and bows to as great a
> level as I can pick up around Oblivion. I always end up with something
> that has 1/2 to 1/8 the number of uses per charge. Keep in mind, the
> dagger given to you at the end of the black hand quest requires some 8
> black/grand soul gems to fully charge! I have picked up many swords that
> require two or three soul gems to fully charge .

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> William
>

I was just looking at that dagger I mentioned at the end of the black hand
quest. It's called the "Blade of Woe" holds a charge of 32,640. That
would take around 20 and 1/2 black/grand soul gems to fully charge. It's
good for 30 strikes, or a little less than one soul gems per strike. Not
something you should want to go around using unless you have an over supply
of gems laying around. It holds the record for the most gem hungry weapon in
Oblivion.

Here is a few other multi-gem weapons I have laying around.:

Blade of Woe (dagger) charge 32,640 uses: 30
Shadowhunt (Bow) charge: 9,000 uses: 126
Blackwater Blade charge: 8,050 uses: 46
Mehrunes Razor (blade) charge: 8,000 uses: 49
Sufferthorn (blade) charge: 8,000 uses: 68
Debaser (blade) charge: 7,200 uses: 60
Staff of Worms charge: 5,000 uses: 227
Mankar Camoran Staff charge: 5,000 uses: 161

Many more in the 3000 to 5000 range.

My favorite of all: Goldbrand - a long blade, 20points of fire per strike,
3000 charge, and 76 uses. I use it all the time. Oh - Umbra is always with
me.

William
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three - or four - house mods includes altars:
Volengrad
Frostcrag Spire
Lonesome Tower
Darktower
- and there is an add-on to the
player's house in Chorrol, that
include altars. There are two,
in fact

merlin

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> "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone know when and where to make enchanted weapons and spells in
>> Oblivion? One of the characters mentioned at least the spells, but I
>> cannot seem to find the location.
>>
>> I've got half a millon I've got to spend.
>>
>
> There are spell making and enchantment altars in the University. You have
> to complete the first round of mage quests to gain access.
>
> Also, many of the expansion packs provide altars you can use.
>
>
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>>>> "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Does anyone know when and where to make enchanted weapons and spells
>>>>> in Oblivion? One of the characters mentioned at least the spells, but
>>>>> I cannot seem to find the location.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got half a millon I've got to spend.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are spell making and enchantment altars in the University. You
>>>> have to complete the first round of mage quests to gain access.
>>>>
>>>> Also, many of the expansion packs provide altars you can use.
>>>
>>> O.K., I will then look for the enchantment altars.
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>
>>
>> I think they are both in the building called the "praxalogical center".
>> If you become Arch-Mage yourself, your private quarters also have one of
>> each kind of altar.
>>
>> Making spells and enchanting items is one of the best parts of the game.
>> If you have got half a million gold and haven't experimented with them,
>> you have missed out on a large part of the fun of the game. Definitely
>> worth finding.
>>
>>
> If you get the Knights of the Nine expansion pack, Frostcrag add-on gives
> you access to enhancements/spells and a few other things.
>
> I wish their was a way to use more than one stone at a time. I would love
> to use 3 or 4 stones on some weapons or equipment. I have never been able
> to enhance anything greater that the weapons/equipment I can pick up
> around Oblivion.
>
> William
>

There is a mod that lets you fuse two stones. It will be installed in the
archmages
quarter


merlin
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> "William" wrote...
>
>> When enhancing armor, every attempt to enhance for feather, or life
>> detect or fire/frost/shock protection always falls 1/3 or worse behind
>> what I can pickup around Oblivion. Enhancing weapons/armor is only a
>> short-term solution until you come across something in Oblivion that is
>> better.
>>
>> I'm at $ 29,910,000 and going for 30 million! I am also going around
>> shooting everything with arrows, sneaking up to them, blocking their
>> attacks, and jumping off of tall buildings trying to level up the last
>> things I have left to do. ( I still don't like speech craft).
>
>
>
> Speaking of speech craft, is there any way to get it to go up?
>
>
Several, in fact. Bar using a trainer, the easiest is to equip items that
fortify (raise) your speechcraft. Second, some quest encounters
raise your speechcraft by more that one point at a time.
Third to fifth: potions (commercial or user made), scrolls and
spells (bought or custom made)

For potions: better equipment increases both duration and
strength. But there is an uber-risk that the effect may be
permanent

merlin
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> "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "William" wrote...
>>
>>> When enhancing armor, every attempt to enhance for feather, or life
>>> detect or fire/frost/shock protection always falls 1/3 or worse behind
>>> what I can pickup around Oblivion. Enhancing weapons/armor is only a
>>> short-term solution until you come across something in Oblivion that is
>>> better.
>>>
>>> I'm at $ 29,910,000 and going for 30 million! I am also going around
>>> shooting everything with arrows, sneaking up to them, blocking their
>>> attacks, and jumping off of tall buildings trying to level up the last
>>> things I have left to do. ( I still don't like speech craft).
>>
>>
>>
>> Speaking of speech craft, is there any way to get it to go up?
>>
>>
>
> Use cheat codes
> Enter console mode. Type "player.advskill speechcraft 1" or 2 or
> whatever. Exit console mode.
>
> Unfortunately the cheat codes will not advance you to your next level. It
> only helps leveling your skills levels overall.
>
this is only good. since it would make it more complicated to manage levels
If you need a level rise alone, use the command <setpclevel xx> I think.
You can look up all the codes in the CS under Help->functions or function
codes

merlin
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"Greg Johnson" <greg.gsj.DeleteThis@gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:08:04 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
> <gmearnest.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I imagined that the only way to do it was to play the wedges game that
>> you
>>get when you try to get someone to like you.
>
> Yes, that is the way it works. Speechcraft is totally broken and
> useless in Oblivion, which is a pity, because it was a good and useful
> skill in Morrowind.
>
>>But by the time you can do anything with the wedges, your personality is
>>so
>>great that you get "disposition maxed out" and can't do anything, or so it
>>seems.
>
> The way to raise speechcraft is to repeatedly play the wedges game
> over and over, just clicking on the largest wedge, _before_ you have a
> good enough reputation and personality that the game becomes
> unavailable. This won't actually be helpful to you in making people
> like you better, but it will increase the skill, and is, apart from
> training, the only practical way to do so. Once you have a good
> disposition, you can basically never raise speechcraft again. As I
> said, totally broken.

Not so, not so. Every npc has a speechcraft threshhold. Once this is
reached, there is nothing gained by raising it any higher. If you fancy
the game, just drink one or more potiions that drains your personality.

There is a limited range of relationships between the wedges (two)
The good or the bad are either juxtaposed or on the same half of
the circle

But you shouldn't ignore the fame - infamy count either. If you complete
the main quest in the start of the game, you won't need speechcraft
at all, unless you need it to boost your personality. I usually concentrate
on mercantile instead plus illusion

merlin
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> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:34:18 -0500, aoa rrock <invalid.TakeThisOut@address.here>
> wrote:
>
>>In Oblivion, do enchanted weapons charge naturally given time as in
>>Morrowind?
>
> No. They must be recharged by an enchanter or you, but as well as soul
> gems, there are also Varla stones, which recharge all items in your
> inventory at once. They're fairly rare, though. See
> http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Varla_Stone for details.

Not that rare. There are minimum one in most ayleid ruins but they are hard
to find,
and there are pussles to solve (finding how to open the container)

merlin
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