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emmel wrote:
> And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
> <RYGdnZ0TB7_LZjzfRVn-tA RemoveThis @rogers.com> was created,
> stating that Jim Eha <spikeaceon RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>
>
>>>>>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too
>>
>>much
>>
>>>>>>>AGC or something!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who knows?
>>>>>
>>>>>Seems like a likely eventuality..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
>>>
>>>You should visit the toilet from time to time. And maybe eat a bit more
>>>that virtual cheese now that I am at it.. You look a bit pale..
>>
>>Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
>>boring;
>>i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
>>magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more physics,
>>some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
>
>
> Huh? What pattern?
>
>
>>*looks down searching for the cheese....*
>>That's funny...
>>
>>*there is no cheese* heh
>
>
> I've eaten *all* of it?

No, the cheese is real because your mind makes it real. I think that is
what Jim is trying to say here.

"There is no spoon", remember?
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote in message
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> emmel wrote:
> > And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
> > <RYGdnZ0TB7_LZjzfRVn-tA RemoveThis @rogers.com> was created,
> > stating that Jim Eha <spikeaceon RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
> > uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too
> >>
> >>much
> >>
> >>>>>>>AGC or something!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Who knows?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seems like a likely eventuality..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
> >>>
> >>>You should visit the toilet from time to time. And maybe eat a bit more
> >>>that virtual cheese now that I am at it.. You look a bit pale..
> >>
> >>Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
> >>boring;
> >>i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
> >>magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more
physics,
> >>some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
> >
> >
> > Huh? What pattern?
> >
> >
> >>*looks down searching for the cheese....*
> >>That's funny...
> >>
> >>*there is no cheese* heh
> >
> >
> > I've eaten *all* of it?
>
> No, the cheese is real because your mind makes it real. I think that is
> what Jim is trying to say here.
>
> "There is no spoon", remember?

Heh Matrix rip off, yes that's exactly it.
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"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote in message
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> emmel wrote:
> > And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
> > <42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> > stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
> > uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> >
> >
> >>emmel wrote:
> >>
> >>>And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
> >>><42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> >>>stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
> >>>uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> <snip>
> >>>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
> >>>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in
libdvdcss)
> >>>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
> >>>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
> >>>anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
> >>>know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
> >>>everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
> >>>stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
> >>
> >>It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
> >>EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
> >>few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
> >
> >
> > Not really. And I think copyright policies are still subject to the
> > countries jurisdiction. EU guidelines are no laws.
>
> He was a researcher at Elcomsoft <http://www.elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html>
> that broke the protection in the DRM format of Adobe Acrobat Reader. He
> went to the US for a speech the security of this on Defcon and got
> arrested by the FBI because of this. I think he got off free, but I have
> the feeling that things will only get worse in the near future
>
> I used to be a software cracker in the MS-Dos days you know, I
> sympathize with people who 'improve' software by removing annoying
> protections (mainly manual protections and floppy protections in those
> days).
>

heh the protections of a floppy disk <flashback> always easily fixed with a
well-placed piece of masking tape
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Jim Eha wrote:
<snip>

> Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
> boring;

Good point..

> i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
> magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more physics,
> some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
>
> *looks down searching for the cheese....*
> That's funny...
>
> *there is no cheese* heh

I do not fear the carpet. The carpet is my friend now.. We've both
showed our teeth and know what to expect of each other

Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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On 2005-06-05, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> emmel wrote:
>> And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
>> <42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>> stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
>> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>>
>>
>>>emmel wrote:
>>>
>>>>And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
>>>><42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>>>>stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
>>>>uttered in alt.games.creatures:
><snip>
>>>>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
>>>>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in libdvdcss)
>>>>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
>>>>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
>>>>anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
>>>>know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
>>>>everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
>>>>stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
>>>
>>>It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
>>>EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
>>>few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
>>
>>
>> Not really. And I think copyright policies are still subject to the
>> countries jurisdiction. EU guidelines are no laws.
>
> He was a researcher at Elcomsoft <http://www.elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html>
> that broke the protection in the DRM format of Adobe Acrobat Reader. He
> went to the US for a speech the security of this on Defcon and got
> arrested by the FBI because of this. I think he got off free, but I have
> the feeling that things will only get worse in the near future

::nods::
Especially in the US they are... a bit extreme...

> I used to be a software cracker in the MS-Dos days you know, I
> sympathize with people who 'improve' software by removing annoying
> protections (mainly manual protections and floppy protections in those
> days).

::nods::
--
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Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

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"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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On 2005-06-05, Jim Eha <spikeaceon.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote in message
> news:42a31476$0$781$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl...
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>>
>> emmel wrote:
>> > And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
>> > <42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>> > stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid>
>> > uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>> >
>> >
>> >>emmel wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
>> >>><42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>> >>>stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid>
>> >>>uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>> <snip>
>> >>>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
>> >>>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in
> libdvdcss)
>> >>>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
>> >>>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
>> >>>anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
>> >>>know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
>> >>>everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
>> >>>stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
>> >>
>> >>It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
>> >>EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
>> >>few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
>> >
>> >
>> > Not really. And I think copyright policies are still subject to the
>> > countries jurisdiction. EU guidelines are no laws.
>>
>> He was a researcher at Elcomsoft <http://www.elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html>
>> that broke the protection in the DRM format of Adobe Acrobat Reader. He
>> went to the US for a speech the security of this on Defcon and got
>> arrested by the FBI because of this. I think he got off free, but I have
>> the feeling that things will only get worse in the near future
>>
>> I used to be a software cracker in the MS-Dos days you know, I
>> sympathize with people who 'improve' software by removing annoying
>> protections (mainly manual protections and floppy protections in those
>> days).
>>
>
> heh the protections of a floppy disk <flashback> always easily fixed with a
> well-placed piece of masking tape

That's only works for writing protection, I think...
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnda8app.5k9.the_emmel*whatever*@btcipinf22.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-06-05, Jim Eha <spikeaceon.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:42a31476$0$781$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl...
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> >>
> >> emmel wrote:
> >> > And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
> >> > <42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> >> > stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
> >> > uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>emmel wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
> >> >>><42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> >> >>>stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
> >> >>>uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> >> <snip>
> >> >>>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also
be
> >> >>>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in
> > libdvdcss)
> >> >>>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way
for
> >> >>>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of
trail..
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for.
And
> >> >>>anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I
don't
> >> >>>know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
> >> >>>everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
> >> >>>stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
> >> >>
> >> >>It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and
it's
> >> >>EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America
a
> >> >>few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not really. And I think copyright policies are still subject to the
> >> > countries jurisdiction. EU guidelines are no laws.
> >>
> >> He was a researcher at Elcomsoft <http://www.elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html>
> >> that broke the protection in the DRM format of Adobe Acrobat Reader. He
> >> went to the US for a speech the security of this on Defcon and got
> >> arrested by the FBI because of this. I think he got off free, but I
have
> >> the feeling that things will only get worse in the near future
> >>
> >> I used to be a software cracker in the MS-Dos days you know, I
> >> sympathize with people who 'improve' software by removing annoying
> >> protections (mainly manual protections and floppy protections in those
> >> days).
> >>
> >
> > heh the protections of a floppy disk <flashback> always easily fixed
with a
> > well-placed piece of masking tape
>
> That's only works for writing protection, I think...

Yes,does.
Though any other form of floppy protection is a sin I think..... <checks>

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Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
boring...

"How do I create a coloured Norn instead of one of those 'brownish or gold'
ones?"
Ah the good old Days of C1!
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On 2005-06-05, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> Jim Eha wrote:
><snip>
>
>> Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
>> boring;
>
> Good point..
>
>> i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
>> magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more physics,
>> some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
>>
>> *looks down searching for the cheese....*
>> That's funny...
>>
>> *there is no cheese* heh
>
> I do not fear the carpet. The carpet is my friend now.. We've both
> showed our teeth and know what to expect of each other

<g> If want to call it like that...
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

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On 2005-06-05, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> emmel wrote:
>> And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
>> <RYGdnZ0TB7_LZjzfRVn-tA.RemoveThis@rogers.com> was created,
>> stating that Jim Eha <spikeaceon.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
>> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too
>>>
>>>much
>>>
>>>>>>>>AGC or something!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Who knows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seems like a likely eventuality..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
>>>>
>>>>You should visit the toilet from time to time. And maybe eat a bit more
>>>>that virtual cheese now that I am at it.. You look a bit pale..
>>>
>>>Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
>>>boring;
>>>i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
>>>magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more physics,
>>>some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
>>
>>
>> Huh? What pattern?
>>
>>
>>>*looks down searching for the cheese....*
>>>That's funny...
>>>
>>>*there is no cheese* heh
>>
>>
>> I've eaten *all* of it?
>
> No, the cheese is real because your mind makes it real. I think that is
> what Jim is trying to say here.

Oh, in that case...
::grabs some more cheese and eats it::

> "There is no spoon", remember?

Sorry, I seem to have a black out...
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

Hi, I'm a .sig virus. Just copy me to your .signature. And don't worry.
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On 2005-06-06, Jim Eha <spikeaceon DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> "emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnda8app.5k9.the_emmel*whatever*@btcipinf22.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
>> On 2005-06-05, Jim Eha <spikeaceon DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I used to be a software cracker in the MS-Dos days you know, I
>> >> sympathize with people who 'improve' software by removing annoying
>> >> protections (mainly manual protections and floppy protections in those
>> >> days).
>> >>
>> >
>> > heh the protections of a floppy disk <flashback> always easily fixed
> with a
>> > well-placed piece of masking tape
>>
>> That's only works for writing protection, I think...
>
> Yes,does.
> Though any other form of floppy protection is a sin I think..... <checks>
>
> --------------
> Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
> boring...
>
> "How do I create a coloured Norn instead of one of those 'brownish or gold'
> ones?"
> Ah the good old Days of C1!
>
>


--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

Official AGC feedback maniac

"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."

"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."

"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."

Hi, I'm a .sig virus. Just copy me to your .signature. And don't worry.
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"emmel" <the_emmel*whatever*@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:slrnda8ao5.5k9.the_emmel*whatever*@btcipinf22.cip.uni-bayreuth.de...
> On 2005-06-05, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam DeleteThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> emmel wrote:
>>> And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
>>> <42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>>> stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam DeleteThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
>>> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>>>
>>>
>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
>>>>><42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>>>>>stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam DeleteThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
>>>>>uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>><snip>
>>>>>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
>>>>>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in
>>>>>>libdvdcss)
>>>>>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
>>>>>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
>>>>>anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
>>>>>know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
>>>>>everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
>>>>>stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
>>>>
>>>>It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
>>>>EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
>>>>few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not really. And I think copyright policies are still subject to the
>>> countries jurisdiction. EU guidelines are no laws.
>>
>> He was a researcher at Elcomsoft <http://www.elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html>
>> that broke the protection in the DRM format of Adobe Acrobat Reader. He
>> went to the US for a speech the security of this on Defcon and got
>> arrested by the FBI because of this. I think he got off free, but I have
>> the feeling that things will only get worse in the near future
>
> ::nods::
> Especially in the US they are... a bit extreme...
<snip>

Semi-related Slashdot article:

http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/09/0051206&tid=158&tid=219

The comments are worth at least skimming, as well.

--
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emmel wrote:
> On 2005-06-05, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Jim Eha wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
>>>boring;
>>
>>Good point..
>>
>>
>>>i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
>>>magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more physics,
>>>some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
>>>
>>>*looks down searching for the cheese....*
>>>That's funny...
>>>
>>>*there is no cheese* heh
>>
>>I do not fear the carpet. The carpet is my friend now.. We've both
>>showed our teeth and know what to expect of each other
>
>
> <g> If want to call it like that...

Well, if it bites, I has got to have teeth? Doesn't it? <looks closer at
carpet> <ducks>

Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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Jim Eha wrote:
> "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote in message
> news:42a31476$0$781$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl...
<snip>
>>I used to be a software cracker in the MS-Dos days you know, I
>>sympathize with people who 'improve' software by removing annoying
>>protections (mainly manual protections and floppy protections in those
>>days).
>>
>
>
> heh the protections of a floppy disk <flashback> always easily fixed with a
> well-placed piece of masking tape

There was CopyIIPC of course, which meant you didn't have to crack it
(until you only had 3 1/2" drives). But mainly these protections would
work with weird settings for floppy parameters and e.g. alternatingly
formatting with 7 and 9 sectors per track.

All in all, the game would boot from the boot record of your floppy,
then alter the drive parameters and load some more. Then do a check on
another track that diskcopy wouldn't copy to see if the floppy was still
there.

The floppies made funny noises too! like <tactactactac grrr grrr
tactactactac>.

I managed to get e.g. J-Bird from 5 1/4 to a zip file and it would work!
Even with highscores (very tricky) and monochrome screens.. I'll post it
as an attachment <looks evily at emmel>.

Ah the good old Days
Thomas
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"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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