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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:14 am
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On 2005-05-15, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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Looks like you posted it in AGC after all. I'll have to go and decrypt
that later... But you are right - encrypted posts are kinda defying the
idea behin usenet.
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
Official AGC feedback maniac
"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:36 pm
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emmel wrote:
> On 2005-05-15, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam DeleteThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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> Looks like you posted it in AGC after all. I'll have to go and decrypt
> that later... But you are right - encrypted posts are kinda defying the
> idea behin usenet.
Seems my newsserver drops it though..
Still, the encrypted contents would have been OT in AGC but I didn't
want take our e-mail discussion into this group without first asking
you.. I come from APA-S where the newsgroup is often the only way to
reach some pseudonym! We had e.g. Stray Cat who had a sig stating that
his nym could not be replied to directly.. (but you could use his PGP
key to send encrypted messages to AAM with Attn: Stray Cat in the Subject)..
Thomas
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Attn: emmel [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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And when it was 2005-05-20, illusion
<428e04bb$0$771$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid>
uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2005-05-15, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>
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>> Looks like you posted it in AGC after all. I'll have to go and decrypt
>> that later... But you are right - encrypted posts are kinda defying the
>> idea behin usenet.
>
> Seems my newsserver drops it though..
> Still, the encrypted contents would have been OT in AGC but I didn't
Not really. No more than the others.
> want take our e-mail discussion into this group without first asking
> you.. I come from APA-S where the newsgroup is often the only way to
APA-S?
> reach some pseudonym! We had e.g. Stray Cat who had a sig stating that
> his nym could not be replied to directly.. (but you could use his PGP
> key to send encrypted messages to AAM with Attn: Stray Cat in the Subject)..
>
> Thomas
AAM?
Anyway, theres a good reason for the existence of mail addys. Oh, BTW
the PGP key of 'Stray Cat' should actually feature a valid e-mail
address.
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emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
Official AGC feedback maniac
"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."
"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 4:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Attn: emmel [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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emmel wrote:
> And when it was 2005-05-20, illusion
> <428e04bb$0$771$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
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>>emmel wrote:
>>
>>>On 2005-05-15, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>Looks like you posted it in AGC after all. I'll have to go and decrypt
>>>that later... But you are right - encrypted posts are kinda defying the
>>>idea behin usenet.
>>
>>Seems my newsserver drops it though..
>>Still, the encrypted contents would have been OT in AGC but I didn't
>
>
> Not really. No more than the others.
>
>
>>want take our e-mail discussion into this group without first asking
>>you.. I come from APA-S where the newsgroup is often the only way to
>
>
> APA-S?
alt.privacy.anon-server, it's mainly about anonymous remailers
<http://mixmaster.sourceforge.net>/<http://tor.freehaven.net>
>>reach some pseudonym! We had e.g. Stray Cat who had a sig stating that
>>his nym could not be replied to directly.. (but you could use his PGP
>>key to send encrypted messages to AAM with Attn: Stray Cat in the Subject)..
>>
>>Thomas
>
>
> AAM?
> Anyway, theres a good reason for the existence of mail addys. Oh, BTW
> the PGP key of 'Stray Cat' should actually feature a valid e-mail
> address.
alt.anonymous.messages, nym reply blocks may end there (pgp encrypted to
your nyms pgp key).
Stray Cat had a nym at nym.alias.net but he had to disable it because of
abuse to it.
Regs,
Thomas (sorry about the page numbers)
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 12:48 pm
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And when it was 2005-05-21, illusion
<428f45ed$0$778$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>
> emmel wrote:
>> And when it was 2005-05-20, illusion
>> <428e04bb$0$771$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>> stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid>
>> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>>
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>>>emmel wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2005-05-15, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
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>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Looks like you posted it in AGC after all. I'll have to go and decrypt
>>>>that later... But you are right - encrypted posts are kinda defying the
>>>>idea behin usenet.
>>>
>>>Seems my newsserver drops it though..
>>>Still, the encrypted contents would have been OT in AGC but I didn't
>>
>>
>> Not really. No more than the others.
>>
>>
>>>want take our e-mail discussion into this group without first asking
>>>you.. I come from APA-S where the newsgroup is often the only way to
>>
>>
>> APA-S?
>
> alt.privacy.anon-server, it's mainly about anonymous remailers
><http://mixmaster.sourceforge.net>/<http://tor.freehaven.net>
Private remailers are *bad*.
>>>reach some pseudonym! We had e.g. Stray Cat who had a sig stating that
>>>his nym could not be replied to directly.. (but you could use his PGP
>>>key to send encrypted messages to AAM with Attn: Stray Cat in the Subject)..
>>>
>>>Thomas
>>
>>
>> AAM?
>> Anyway, theres a good reason for the existence of mail addys. Oh, BTW
>> the PGP key of 'Stray Cat' should actually feature a valid e-mail
>> address.
>
> alt.anonymous.messages, nym reply blocks may end there (pgp encrypted to
> your nyms pgp key).
>
> Stray Cat had a nym at nym.alias.net but he had to disable it because of
> abuse to it.
I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
different thing.
> Regs,
> Thomas (sorry about the page numbers)
Never mind. I just though I should let you know.
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emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
Official AGC feedback maniac
"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."
"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:52 pm
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emmel wrote:
<snip>
> I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
> different thing.
How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:39 am
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On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam DeleteThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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> emmel wrote:
><snip>
>> I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>> different thing.
>
> How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
What's DeCSS?
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emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
Official AGC feedback maniac
"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."
"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:13 pm
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emmel wrote:
> On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
>>emmel wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>>>different thing.
>>
>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
>
>
> What's DeCSS?
What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
<http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too much
AGC or something!
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:58 am
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On 2005-05-27, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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> emmel wrote:
>> On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>emmel wrote:
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>>>>different thing.
>>>
>>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
>>
>>
>> What's DeCSS?
>
> What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
> you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
><http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
You know, I use *libdvdcss* and that for years.
And I still don't get your point.
> Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too much
> AGC or something!
Who knows?
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
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"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
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Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:52 pm
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emmel wrote:
> On 2005-05-27, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
>>emmel wrote:
>>
>>>On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>>>>>different thing.
>>>>
>>>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
>>>
>>>
>>>What's DeCSS?
>>
>>What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
>>you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
>><http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
>
>
> You know, I use *libdvdcss* and that for years.
> And I still don't get your point.
It is illegal in the US and Europe to reverse engineer copy protections.
That is why www.elby.de stopped supplying CloneCD from Germany..
Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in libdvdcss)
might get the author in legal difficulties.
Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too much
>>AGC or something!
>
>
> Who knows?
Seems like a likely eventuality..
Thomas
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palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:16 am
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And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
<42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2005-05-27, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>emmel wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>>>>>>different thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What's DeCSS?
>>>
>>>What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
>>>you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
>>><http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
>>
>>
>> You know, I use *libdvdcss* and that for years.
>> And I still don't get your point.
>
> It is illegal in the US and Europe to reverse engineer copy protections.
> That is why www.elby.de stopped supplying CloneCD from Germany..
Thye did? Are you sure?
> Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
> deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in libdvdcss)
> might get the author in legal difficulties.
>
> Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
> the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too much
>>>AGC or something!
>>
>>
>> Who knows?
>
> Seems like a likely eventuality..
Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
Official AGC feedback maniac
"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."
"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:08 pm
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emmel wrote:
> And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
> <42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>>emmel wrote:
>>>On 2005-05-27, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>>On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>>>>>>>different thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What's DeCSS?
>>>>
>>>>What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
>>>>you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
>>>><http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
>>>
>>>
>>>You know, I use *libdvdcss* and that for years.
>>>And I still don't get your point.
>>
>>It is illegal in the US and Europe to reverse engineer copy protections.
>>That is why www.elby.de stopped supplying CloneCD from Germany..
>
>
> Thye did? Are you sure?
Check out <http://elby.de/products/clone_cd/index.html>:
"New copyright law drives out CloneCD sheep
Due to the new legal situation we will stop the sales of CloneCD
We would like to take the opportunity to thank our customers for the
long loyalty to CloneCD!
We hope that you will also be excited about our future products and
remain with the most cordial greetings
Your elby team"
It is now <http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html>: (whois)
domain:slysoft.com
owner-address:Giancarlo Bettini
owner-address:SlySoft Inc.
owner-address:Dickenson Bay Street, 3rd Floor, John Henry Bldg.
owner-address:noZIP
owner-address:St. John's
owner-address:Antigua and Barbuda
owner-phone:+1.2684814000
owner-fax:+1.2684814100
owner-e-mail:nospam05113dc606f17b06e49409adbec416b5-596682@owner.gandi.net
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"Antigua (pronounced An-tee'ga) and Barbuda are located in the middle of
the Leeward Islands in the Eastern Caribbean, roughly 17 degrees north
of the equator. To the south are the islands of Montserrat and
Guadaloupe, and to the north and west are Nevis, St. Kitts, St. Barts,
and St. Martin."
>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in libdvdcss)
>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
>>
>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
>
>
> That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
> anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
> know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
> everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
> stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
>>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too much
>>>>AGC or something!
>>>
>>>
>>>Who knows?
>>
>>Seems like a likely eventuality..
>
>
> Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
You should visit the toilet from time to time. And maybe eat a bit more
that virtual cheese now that I am at it.. You look a bit pale..
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:08 pm
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"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote in message
news:42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> emmel wrote:
> > And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
> > <42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
> > stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
> > uttered in alt.games.creatures:
> >>emmel wrote:
> >>>On 2005-05-27, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>emmel wrote:
> >>>>>On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>emmel wrote:
> >>>>>><snip>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a
completely
> >>>>>>>different thing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What's DeCSS?
> >>>>
> >>>>What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
> >>>>you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
> >>>><http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You know, I use *libdvdcss* and that for years.
> >>>And I still don't get your point.
> >>
> >>It is illegal in the US and Europe to reverse engineer copy protections.
> >>That is why www.elby.de stopped supplying CloneCD from Germany..
> >
> >
> > Thye did? Are you sure?
>
> Check out <http://elby.de/products/clone_cd/index.html>:
> "New copyright law drives out CloneCD sheep
>
> Due to the new legal situation we will stop the sales of CloneCD
>
> We would like to take the opportunity to thank our customers for the
> long loyalty to CloneCD!
> We hope that you will also be excited about our future products and
> remain with the most cordial greetings
>
> Your elby team"
>
>
> It is now <http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html>: (whois)
>
> domain:slysoft.com
> owner-address:Giancarlo Bettini
> owner-address:SlySoft Inc.
> owner-address:Dickenson Bay Street, 3rd Floor, John Henry Bldg.
> owner-address:noZIP
> owner-address:St. John's
> owner-address:Antigua and Barbuda
> owner-phone:+1.2684814000
> owner-fax:+1.2684814100
> owner-e-mail:nospam05113dc606f17b06e49409adbec416b5-596682@owner.gandi.net
> admin-c:GB623-GANDI
> tech-c:MH778-GANDI
> bill-c:GB623-GANDI
> nserver:dns.mti.ag 208.0.227.114
> nserver:ns6.gandi.net 217.70.177.40
> reg_created:2003-05-12 11:20:36
> expires:2007-05-12 11:20:36
> created:2003-05-12 17:20:37
> changed:2004-05-08 03:35:45
>
> "Antigua (pronounced An-tee'ga) and Barbuda are located in the middle of
> the Leeward Islands in the Eastern Caribbean, roughly 17 degrees north
> of the equator. To the south are the islands of Montserrat and
> Guadaloupe, and to the north and west are Nevis, St. Kitts, St. Barts,
> and St. Martin."
>
> >>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
> >>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in libdvdcss)
> >>might get the author in legal difficulties.
> >>
> >>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
> >>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
> >
> >
> > That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
> > anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
> > know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
> > everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
> > stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
>
> It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
> EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
> few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
>
> >>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too
much
> >>>>AGC or something!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Who knows?
> >>
> >>Seems like a likely eventuality..
> >
> >
> > Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
>
> You should visit the toilet from time to time. And maybe eat a bit more
> that virtual cheese now that I am at it.. You look a bit pale..
Those who do not read AGC are those that perish because their life is
boring;
i.e. not constantly filled with fear of 'the carpet' and discussions of
magic and bending the laws of nature (physics, magic,....hm more physics,
some JNCOBOY content about... physics..... *begins to sense a pattern*)
*looks down searching for the cheese....*
That's funny...
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:35 am
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And when it was 2005-06-04, illusion
<42a1e035$0$769$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>
> emmel wrote:
>> And when it was 2005-06-03, illusion
>> <42a0cb47$0$151$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl> was created,
>> stating that Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid>
>> uttered in alt.games.creatures:
>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>On 2005-05-27, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>>>On 2005-05-22, Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>emmel wrote:
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't believe in anonymous messages. Privacy - now that's a completely
>>>>>>>>different thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would you feel if DeCSS was posted through the remailer network?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What's DeCSS?
>>>>>
>>>>>What's DeCSS? Who is Jon Johansen? You're on *nix right? DeCSS allows
>>>>>you to see DVD movies on your laptop in *nix. That is what DeCSS is
>>>>><http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=733>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You know, I use *libdvdcss* and that for years.
>>>>And I still don't get your point.
>>>
>>>It is illegal in the US and Europe to reverse engineer copy protections.
>>>That is why www.elby.de stopped supplying CloneCD from Germany..
>>
>>
>> Thye did? Are you sure?
>
> Check out <http://elby.de/products/clone_cd/index.html>:
> "New copyright law drives out CloneCD sheep
>
> Due to the new legal situation we will stop the sales of CloneCD
>
> We would like to take the opportunity to thank our customers for the
> long loyalty to CloneCD!
> We hope that you will also be excited about our future products and
> remain with the most cordial greetings
>
> Your elby team"
>
>
> It is now <http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html>: (whois)
>
> domain:slysoft.com
> owner-address:Giancarlo Bettini
> owner-address:SlySoft Inc.
> owner-address:Dickenson Bay Street, 3rd Floor, John Henry Bldg.
> owner-address:noZIP
> owner-address:St. John's
> owner-address:Antigua and Barbuda
> owner-phone:+1.2684814000
> owner-fax:+1.2684814100
> owner-e-mail:nospam05113dc606f17b06e49409adbec416b5-596682@owner.gandi.net
> admin-c:GB623-GANDI
> tech-c:MH778-GANDI
> bill-c:GB623-GANDI
> nserver:dns.mti.ag 208.0.227.114
> nserver:ns6.gandi.net 217.70.177.40
> reg_created:2003-05-12 11:20:36
> expires:2007-05-12 11:20:36
> created:2003-05-12 17:20:37
> changed:2004-05-08 03:35:45
>
> "Antigua (pronounced An-tee'ga) and Barbuda are located in the middle of
> the Leeward Islands in the Eastern Caribbean, roughly 17 degrees north
> of the equator. To the south are the islands of Montserrat and
> Guadaloupe, and to the north and west are Nevis, St. Kitts, St. Barts,
> and St. Martin."
::nods::
I know these, well, by name that is. I'd just have said "somewhere in
the Carribean".
>>>Since there are no (official) DVD players for *nix, they could also be
>>>deemed illegal. So posting DeCSS (which probably resulted in libdvdcss)
>>>might get the author in legal difficulties.
>>>
>>>Anonymity allows you to 'share' programs like DeCSS in a safe way for
>>>the authors. It would have saved Jon Johansen three years of trail..
>>
>>
>> That's not the point. I mean, it's something *worth* fighting for. And
>> anyway, building software anonymously is pretty much pointless. I don't
>> know if you realize that, but in Open Source feedback is just about
>> everything. The only software distributed anonymously is the kind of
>> stuff script kiddies use. Keep that in mind.
>
> It is illegal now due to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and it's
> EU counterpart. Remember that Adobe guy that got arrested in America a
> few years ago?! <http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0108.html#6>
Not really. And I think copyright policies are still subject to the
countries jurisdiction. EU guidelines are no laws.
>>>>>Where have you been all these years? You must have been reading too much
>>>>>AGC or something!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who knows?
>>>
>>>Seems like a likely eventuality..
>>
>>
>> Reading too much AGC is technically not possible.
>
> You should visit the toilet from time to time.
A good advice, although it's a long time since I had to be reminded of
*that*, you know.
> And maybe eat a bit more
> that virtual cheese now that I am at it.. You look a bit pale..
Actually, I'm slightly tanned. Not as much as if I'd been sunbathing,
but it's a far from pale...
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)
Official AGC feedback maniac
"God is playing creatures - and we're the norns."
"A hundred dead are a tragedy - a hundred thousand are statistics."
"I guess you can call yourself lucky." -
"I could, but Linda suits me a little better...
Things called lucky tend to get hit by trucks."
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