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Since: Jun 10, 2005 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:48 am
Post subject: Several disavantages on the DS Lite Archived from groups: rec>games>video>nintendo (more info?)
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I already own a reg. DS since the first day they came out here in the
States and I also got the Lite. I could not resist myself and I had to
have one. My gf wanted a DS for a while but I told her to hold off
since the Lite were coming soon. On the 11th I went to my local Walmart
and they had only three Lites' for sale. Nintendo just posted over
135,000 Lite's sold, and that's just in a few days. Incredible! Is
amazing this little thing sales out in Japan as soon as they hit the
stores, and what's more amazing the DS has not slowed down in sales
since its launch. Anyhow, I won't go into detail about this great
product, other posters here have mentioned its strengths. On the other
hand, I noticed a couple things right off the bat.
!)The DS Lite does not have the same speaker size as the reg DS. Hence,
the sound is smaller. I noticed this right away when I turned on my
Lite. The reg DS has more punch in sound.
2)The GBA cartridges stick out like a sore thumb. The reg. DS GBA
cartridges fits deeper in the belly and could be left inside without
looking rather awkward.
3)Sometimes size matters. If you're an individual with bigger hands,
the lite may be a little uncomfortable to play since the unit is
smaller. Games were you have to use the shoulder buttons often may give
you a crampy feel in your thumbs more so than the reg. DS.
4)Microphone placement is questionable. I like the microphone placement
in the original DS. It sat underneath the bottom screen, and I could
keep an eye-level on the bottom screen or upper-screen to keep an eye
view of my character. I could blow much easier, and it always
registered. On the other hand I noticed a glaring flaw with the Lite.
Playing one of the mini games in Princes Peach, I found myself --
whenever I blow -- I had to move the lite closer under my chin in order
to register with precision. By doing this, and because the action is on
the bottom screen, I cannot keep an eye-level, and I have to force my
eyes downward to keep my eyes on the character. The mini game simply
consists of manipulating Toad to jump up and down. The longer you blow,
the longer Toad stays in mid-air. Is a simple game were you blow and
cause the character to jump up and down to avoid objects and gaps. I
tried keeping the Lite at a distance, but it not always registered a
blow of air, and if it did, it was registered late. So I grabbed a
piece of paper, folded it to the size of my hand and fan two inches
away from the screen; result? I finished all the mini games without a
single mistep. 100% improvement. I did not had to do this with my reg.
DS.
That's all I can find for now. This of course is just nitpicking and
the only 'big' problem I have with the Lite is the microphone
placement. I personally prefer the Lite over the reg DS, even though I
think the reg DS has a couple advantages over its sibling. I love the
Lite, and I think is going to be a major saler here in the States. The
whole thing has an ipod look that's quite pleasing to the eye, can fit
in your pocket, and caters to an older player. Case in point, the box
does not look like it contains a toy, but an electronic gear for all
gear-heads. There's no game pictures, just the Lite unit. Looks like
Nintendo is cleaning up its kiddy image after all. Smart move by
Nintendo, and if they continue this trend, and at this level, I don't
see Nintendo coming in second place this next-generation in consoles.
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Since: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 152
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Several disavantages on the DS Lite [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Thank you for giving us a few of your opinions about the DS Lite.
So, what you said, the DS Lite has a few flaws, but you still consider
it a good machine.
So, a person who has large hands will find it cumberson to handle it. I
have tiny hands so it wouldn't give me a problem.
My husband thinks it's a waste of money to go buy a Lite if a person has
the original machine. I really don't know what to make of it, but watch,
Nintendo will come out with another unit which will have better features
then the Lite.
I wouldn't like to see the Game Boy Advance games to stick out like a
sore thumb, when they fit perfectly in the original.
I had wanted the Lite, but I think I'm changing my mind. I'm going to
keep what I got.
I have a question. Did they improve the touch screen to make it less
sensitive to scratches. That's what they should improve. I had to have
my original sent back to Nintendo to be fixed because I had lots of
scratches on the screen.
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Since: Jun 15, 2006 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:53 pm
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:29:34 -0700, JandC805.TakeThisOut@webtv.net (John Carmen)
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Carmen,
I had the original and sold it to Gamestop for the DS Lite. I think it
is well worth exchanging. The quality of the screens alone is worth
the price of admission. The buttons/switches while smaller feel more
responsive to me; the longer and thicker stylus make it much more
comfortable to use. The fact that the GBA carts stick out slightly I
don't see as a problem. (I did not leave a GBA cart in my DS all the
time like many other people do.)
Just my thoughts.
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Since: May 24, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:19 am
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> Besides, it's just a friggin' fashion-type-thingy, when you're playing the
> games who gives a rat's arse what your console looks like???
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> Kev
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I have to disagree. The screen brightness alone makes all the
difference. That, and the longer battery life make the lite a clear
choice.
However, having large hands (that look like shovels on my slim 5' 7"
frame  , I get a sore thumb if playing any length of time. I even
had to ice my thumb the other day. Of course, with three girls, I
don't have much time to play for long periods.
I'd consider buying a third party item that put the hands in a more
natural, less cramped position, when playing.
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Since: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 152
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:48 am
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All these pros and cons are discouraging me. Now, I don't know what I
want.
I live in the U.S. and I don't know what the new Lite is selling for,
probabably $130 as the original. I guess it's up to the individual
whether they want to purchase a Lite when they already have the
original. What I fear most is that Nintendo will come out with a DS3. My
husband keeps telling me this and I'm starting to believe him.
First of all, the original was only out about 1 1/2 years and all of a
sudden they come out with the DS Lite. People are going crazy to buy
this unit. My husband feels that Nintendo will come out with another
unit and maybe more upgraded, but it would have the Lite's features. All
these companies want people to send their money. The same thing happened
with the Sony Playstation. The same thing happens with Computers. Now
they are going to come out with a new Windows operating system, which I
was told by a friend of mine who writes computer books.
I'm convincing myself that I should wait and not buy the DS Lite even
though it does sound nice. My only got my original for a Christmas
present, so it's brand new. Since Nintendo repaired my DS, they also
gave me an extended warranty.
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Since: Jun 28, 2005 Posts: 113
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:23 am
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:48:22 -0700, JandC805.RemoveThis@webtv.net (John Carmen)
wrote:
>All these pros and cons are discouraging me. Now, I don't know what I
>want.
>
>I live in the U.S. and I don't know what the new Lite is selling for,
>probabably $130 as the original. I guess it's up to the individual
>whether they want to purchase a Lite when they already have the
>original. What I fear most is that Nintendo will come out with a DS3. My
>husband keeps telling me this and I'm starting to believe him.
>
>First of all, the original was only out about 1 1/2 years and all of a
>sudden they come out with the DS Lite. People are going crazy to buy
>this unit. My husband feels that Nintendo will come out with another
>unit and maybe more upgraded, but it would have the Lite's features. All
>these companies want people to send their money. The same thing happened
>with the Sony Playstation. The same thing happens with Computers. Now
>they are going to come out with a new Windows operating system, which I
>was told by a friend of mine who writes computer books.
>
>I'm convincing myself that I should wait and not buy the DS Lite even
>though it does sound nice. My only got my original for a Christmas
>present, so it's brand new. Since Nintendo repaired my DS, they also
>gave me an extended warranty.
>
>Carmen
Everything get's improved. Microsoft isnt just coming out with a new
operating system next year, but they have been coming out with new
versions of Windows since it's inception in the 80's. It's a foregone
conclusion that everyone (Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo etc..) are
working on new versions and even the next generation of their product
when the current one is still new on the market.
Nintendo most definetly WILL come out with another version of the DS
before it's lifetime is over. They started redisigning the DS before
the phat DS even came out! If like me you already have a phat DS you
dont need a lite if you are happy with the one you have. I like the
idea of the brighter screen and the lite cosmetically looks nicer so
eventually I will get one (or maybe even the next version of the DS
after that) but I play my orig DS everyday and I have no complaints,
so there is no burning desire for me to run out to buy a DS LITE right
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Since: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 152
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:23 am
Post subject: Re: Several disavantages on the DS Lite Kevin [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I also play with my DS everyday. I'm loved playing video games since I
was a younger person. Even if I don't have wireless, I still love
playing with it.
I only play DS games on the DS system because I own a GBA SP. The SP is
a cute little machine.
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Since: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:35 pm
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I've never seen the appeal of the Lite, I've got a regular DS and anything
smaller would be a pain.
Besides, it's just a friggin' fashion-type-thingy, when you're playing the
games who gives a rat's arse what your console looks like???
Kev
"Leo" <leogamer DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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>I already own a reg. DS since the first day they came out here in the
> States and I also got the Lite. I could not resist myself and I had to
> have one. My gf wanted a DS for a while but I told her to hold off
> since the Lite were coming soon. On the 11th I went to my local Walmart
> and they had only three Lites' for sale. Nintendo just posted over
> 135,000 Lite's sold, and that's just in a few days. Incredible! Is
> amazing this little thing sales out in Japan as soon as they hit the
> stores, and what's more amazing the DS has not slowed down in sales
> since its launch. Anyhow, I won't go into detail about this great
> product, other posters here have mentioned its strengths. On the other
> hand, I noticed a couple things right off the bat.
>
> !)The DS Lite does not have the same speaker size as the reg DS. Hence,
> the sound is smaller. I noticed this right away when I turned on my
> Lite. The reg DS has more punch in sound.
>
> 2)The GBA cartridges stick out like a sore thumb. The reg. DS GBA
> cartridges fits deeper in the belly and could be left inside without
> looking rather awkward.
>
> 3)Sometimes size matters. If you're an individual with bigger hands,
> the lite may be a little uncomfortable to play since the unit is
> smaller. Games were you have to use the shoulder buttons often may give
> you a crampy feel in your thumbs more so than the reg. DS.
>
> 4)Microphone placement is questionable. I like the microphone placement
> in the original DS. It sat underneath the bottom screen, and I could
> keep an eye-level on the bottom screen or upper-screen to keep an eye
> view of my character. I could blow much easier, and it always
> registered. On the other hand I noticed a glaring flaw with the Lite.
> Playing one of the mini games in Princes Peach, I found myself --
> whenever I blow -- I had to move the lite closer under my chin in order
> to register with precision. By doing this, and because the action is on
> the bottom screen, I cannot keep an eye-level, and I have to force my
> eyes downward to keep my eyes on the character. The mini game simply
> consists of manipulating Toad to jump up and down. The longer you blow,
> the longer Toad stays in mid-air. Is a simple game were you blow and
> cause the character to jump up and down to avoid objects and gaps. I
> tried keeping the Lite at a distance, but it not always registered a
> blow of air, and if it did, it was registered late. So I grabbed a
> piece of paper, folded it to the size of my hand and fan two inches
> away from the screen; result? I finished all the mini games without a
> single mistep. 100% improvement. I did not had to do this with my reg.
> DS.
>
> That's all I can find for now. This of course is just nitpicking and
> the only 'big' problem I have with the Lite is the microphone
> placement. I personally prefer the Lite over the reg DS, even though I
> think the reg DS has a couple advantages over its sibling. I love the
> Lite, and I think is going to be a major saler here in the States. The
> whole thing has an ipod look that's quite pleasing to the eye, can fit
> in your pocket, and caters to an older player. Case in point, the box
> does not look like it contains a toy, but an electronic gear for all
> gear-heads. There's no game pictures, just the Lite unit. Looks like
> Nintendo is cleaning up its kiddy image after all. Smart move by
> Nintendo, and if they continue this trend, and at this level, I don't
> see Nintendo coming in second place this next-generation in consoles.
> Looking forward to buying the Wii.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:01 pm
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The screens aren't just brighter, colors are much more vibrant & sharp.
Playing some of my old games again, I notice stuff that wasn't even there on
the old screen(s). Don't know about now, but Gamestop was giving $70 for
the original DS, I wholeheartedly think trading up is worth every penny!
-Bruce
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>> Besides, it's just a friggin' fashion-type-thingy, when you're playing
>> the
>> games who gives a rat's arse what your console looks like???
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>> Kev
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> I have to disagree. The screen brightness alone makes all the
> difference. That, and the longer battery life make the lite a clear
> choice.
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> However, having large hands (that look like shovels on my slim 5' 7"
> frame , I get a sore thumb if playing any length of time. I even
> had to ice my thumb the other day. Of course, with three girls, I
> don't have much time to play for long periods.
>
> I'd consider buying a third party item that put the hands in a more
> natural, less cramped position, when playing.
>
> Troy
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:11 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:15 am
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Since: Mar 28, 2005 Posts: 1872
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:23 pm
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Leo wrote:
> !)The DS Lite does not have the same speaker size as the reg DS. Hence,
> the sound is smaller. I noticed this right away when I turned on my
> Lite. The reg DS has more punch in sound.
First off, we aren't talking quality sound, we're talking the little
bleeps and bloops that Nintendo is fond of. It doesn't really matter
what size speaker they come from. If you really want to hear them then
hook up headphones.
> 2)The GBA cartridges stick out like a sore thumb. The reg. DS GBA
> cartridges fits deeper in the belly and could be left inside without
> looking rather awkward.
Agreed.
> 3)Sometimes size matters. If you're an individual with bigger hands,
> the lite may be a little uncomfortable to play since the unit is
> smaller. Games were you have to use the shoulder buttons often may give
> you a crampy feel in your thumbs more so than the reg. DS.
Might be a problem for me later on, I'm one of the people that the Xbox
"Duke" controller fit just fine. But so far I'm not having any trouble
with the Lite.
> 4)Microphone placement is questionable. I like the microphone placement
> in the original DS.
I haven't seen a game worth playing that uses the microphone to any
degree so it's not an issue.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:24 pm
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Leo wrote:
> !)The DS Lite does not have the same speaker size as the reg DS. Hence,
> the sound is smaller. I noticed this right away when I turned on my
> Lite. The reg DS has more punch in sound.
First off, we aren't talking quality sound, we're talking the little
bleeps and bloops that Nintendo is fond of. It doesn't really matter
what size speaker they come from. If you really want to hear them then
hook up headphones.
> 2)The GBA cartridges stick out like a sore thumb. The reg. DS GBA
> cartridges fits deeper in the belly and could be left inside without
> looking rather awkward.
Agreed.
> 3)Sometimes size matters. If you're an individual with bigger hands,
> the lite may be a little uncomfortable to play since the unit is
> smaller. Games were you have to use the shoulder buttons often may give
> you a crampy feel in your thumbs more so than the reg. DS.
Might be a problem for me later on, I'm one of the people that the Xbox
"Duke" controller fit just fine. But so far I'm not having any trouble
with the Lite.
> 4)Microphone placement is questionable. I like the microphone placement
> in the original DS.
I haven't seen a game worth playing that uses the microphone to any
degree so it's not an issue.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:54 pm
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On 17 Jun 2006 22:24:56 -0700, "Jordan" <lundj RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 4)Microphone placement is questionable. I like the microphone placement
>> in the original DS.
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>I haven't seen a game worth playing that uses the microphone to any
>degree so it's not an issue.
The only game I have that uses the microphone for anything interesting
is Warioware. It works well for that game and blowing on the DS sure
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:22 pm
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Jordan wrote:
> Leo wrote:
>
> > !)The DS Lite does not have the same speaker size as the reg DS. Hence,
> > the sound is smaller. I noticed this right away when I turned on my
> > Lite. The reg DS has more punch in sound.
>
> First off, we aren't talking quality sound, we're talking the little
> bleeps and bloops that Nintendo is fond of. It doesn't really matter
> what size speaker they come from. If you really want to hear them then
> hook up headphones.
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> >
>
> I haven't seen a game worth playing that uses the microphone to any
> degree so it's not an issue.
>
> - Jordan
To me it does matter what size the speakers my portable player has
installed. The reg. DS has more kick/base to the sound, (the sound is a
little phat) while the Lite the sound is thin, and it sounds as though
is pumping through a straw. I rarely use the headphones, but I'm almost
forced to whenever I play the DS Lite now. Is funny, 'cause the Reg. DS
had some good stereo sound coming from those little speakers, but
lacked a sharp LCD screen. Now the Lite has a sharp screen, with strong
solid colors but its sound is reversed, smaller and dim as the Reg. DS
screen.
I think we'll continue to see games implementing the microphone feature
as an extra bonus for mini-games and the likes. Conventional games, or
a full-fledge game using only the microphone for control is a little
far-fetch, at least to me. I loved Warioware(Touched), but even that
game I think did not exploit the DS to its fullest. I think Nintendo
was forced to move the microphone due to the DS slim size, and to me, I
think placing it in the center was a mistake. My two cents...
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