old sims vs. sims 2

>
> I admit though, I played with Aging off for a while to get used to it, after
> the first time a sim aged to elder and I felt so sad.
> I still do it sometimes, with a new adult created in CAS, to get their lives
> off the ground. But I can't run Sims2 on my laptop, so I still have the
> original on there. I have been back to it, but found some things so
> difficult, it seems much harder to make and keep friends for example.

Making friends isn't too hard in Sims2, I think. The University EP kind
of screwed things up when it introduced pranks. It throws off your
friend-making when some sim autonomously farts on your sim while they
are trying to chat. <g> I really like the "Hang Out" option for young
adults and teens -- it really speeds up making friends and they often do
that on their own, which is rather nice. OFB brought that option to
adults, too, and I've found it is an excellent way for parents to "get
to know" their troubled teens. It's kind of sweet seeing them hanging
out together under a tree in the yard while Dad grills ribs. Again,
hacks and mods are almost mandatory for me, to get rid of the autonomous
pranking.
>
> I don't find it difficult getting a Sim though Uni, if they were born into
> the game - they usually have a heap of skills by the time they become a
> child, read up a few more then, and once they are teens and I know what
> they want to do, I tryto make sure they have all they need for their degree,
> or even for the top of their career, if that;' their lifetime want, then
> they can either rush the course with the College Adjuster, or do the minimum
> needed, and spend time out and about.
>
>
That's true, too, but I've found that without a hack that either reduces
homework (homeworkfastersometimesfun) or allows a good student to
actually gain skill points from it (which is only logical to me), I
don't have enough time to gain skill points if the teens and kids are to
have any sort of social life at all.

Jeanie
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På Tue, 16 May 2006 23:11:24 +0200, skrev moochachanyc RemoveThis @mac.com
<moochachanyc RemoveThis @mac.com>:

> is it just me or is sims 2 (and university and nightlife) just not as
> fun as old sims? it's inexplicable, it SHOULD be more fun, but somehow
> it isn't. maybe i've outgrown it, i am a hundred and ten years old, but
> it was wldly fun before and now, i play for 5 minutes and quit. it
> incorporates things i've always wanted -- for them to learn from their
> behavior, procreation that has genetic reasoning behind it, 360°
> views, better animation, but, somehow it's just not "this graw is
> fredeshay!"
>
> is it just me?
>

I feel the same way. I don`t think we`re getting older though. Games are
supposed to be fun. I play Sims, Football Manager (Champ. Manager before
that) and other games. The games are more complex, wich takes the fun away
and add seriousness instead.

I still play Sims 1 and Championship Manager 4 instead of Sims 2 or
Football Manager 2006. I love it simple...


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moochachanyc.DeleteThis@mac.com wrote:
> What I'm looking for is something that doesn't help raise it but
> something that freezes it or removes it. I don't want to think about it
> at all as in I would prefer to not have my sim grieve inconsolably over
> a flour sack until I make her stare at a painting til it goes away. I
> want the grief or anxiety to never appear in the first place. Is this
> possible?
>
There are cheats you can type in that accomplish what you are looking
for, I think. They came with Nightlife, so you'd have to have that
expansion pack installed.

"aspirationLevel (#)" with 0 being the lowest and 5 being platinum
"lockAspiration on" freezes aspiration decay for all Sims on the lot

I don't know if those can be included in your userstartup.cheat in My
Documents/EA Games/The Sims2/Config. But I suppose you could always
give it a try. That way, you wouldn't have to keep typing it in
everytime you enter a lot.

The wants will still roll, but it won't matter if you fulfill them or
not. Also, the LotDebugger hack has an option to tick the Lifetime Want
as fulfilled for any sim who is active when you choose it. That is
permanent for that sim. I can't remember right off the top of my head
where that particular hack can be downloaded, but I'll bet Maxon knows
and will tell you. I knew it yesterday, but I've slept since then. <g>

Jeanie
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In news:59Hag.3173$RY2.1588@trnddc02,
Jeanie <taureanmoon DeleteThis @yahoo.com> said
>> I admit though, I played with Aging off for a while to get used to
>> it, after the first time a sim aged to elder and I felt so sad.
>> I still do it sometimes, with a new adult created in CAS, to get
>> their lives off the ground. But I can't run Sims2 on my laptop, so
>> I still have the original on there. I have been back to it, but
>> found some things so difficult, it seems much harder to make and
>> keep friends for example.
>
> Making friends isn't too hard in Sims2, I think.


Pretty easy, it's was Sims 1 I meant was harder.


The University EP
> kind of screwed things up when it introduced pranks. It throws off your
> friend-making when some sim autonomously farts on your sim while they
> are trying to chat. <g> I really like the "Hang Out" option for
> young adults and teens -- it really speeds up making friends and they
> often do that on their own, which is rather nice. OFB brought that
> option to adults, too, and I've found it is an excellent way for parents
> to "get
> to know" their troubled teens. It's kind of sweet seeing them hanging
> out together under a tree in the yard while Dad grills ribs. Again,
> hacks and mods are almost mandatory for me, to get rid of the
> autonomous pranking.

Agreed, I don't mind when I choose them to do it, but not when they do it
like that.

I love the Hang out thing. I spent a long time hoping it would get
extended, just wish they could do it on the sofa!

>>
>> I don't find it difficult getting a Sim though Uni, if they were
>> born into the game - they usually have a heap of skills by the time
>> they become a child, read up a few more then, and once they are
>> teens and I know what they want to do, I tryto make sure they have
>> all they need for their degree, or even for the top of their career,
>> if that;' their lifetime want, then they can either rush the course
>> with the College Adjuster, or do the minimum needed, and spend time
>> out and about.
> That's true, too, but I've found that without a hack that either
> reduces homework (homeworkfastersometimesfun) or allows a good
> student to actually gain skill points from it (which is only logical to
> me), I
> don't have enough time to gain skill points if the teens and kids are
> to have any sort of social life at all.
>

I don't worry too much about a social life, beyond any friends they bring
home, and family. There's things like chess they can do with their friends.
And pool and dancing might not have points but they can lead to
scholarships. But my favourite little sims have had the chance as a
toddler to rack up about 15 skill points, maybe a couple less if I stick to
the bunny and get charisma high, and grow up Friday evening to child, and
spend the weekend with their head in a book. They can have all week off
after that, apart from chess and painting if they want to do it, and they
often choose to. The teens, depends on their aspirations and wants really.
I don't work them too hard, just point them in the right directions.




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Am 17 May 2006 09:50:39 -0700 schrieb moochachanyc.DeleteThis@mac.com:

> I agree with you about the hacks, I've always said that the Sims is an
> environment, like a dollhouse, rather than a game that is played to
> win. I don't consider turning aging off or adding simoleans to be
> cheating. Cheating doesn't apply to dollhouses. But this is all exactly
> why hate the aspirations, I agree that the fact they exist turns the
> Sims into more of a "game". Do you know of a hack that removes
> aspirations? That's Mac-friendly?

There are many mods that help you raise aspiration or even make it static


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On Wed, 17 May 2006 04:12:04 GMT, Jeanie <taureanmoon.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:


>
>I agree. That's why I like using hacks.


Thanks for all the great suggestions, Jeanie! I was unaware of some
of the hacks you mentioned (I am one of those people who has
absolutely NO problem with using hacks in the Sims - I used plenty of
them in Sims 1) and I had forgotten the others. I just downloaded
them and I'm going to go check out the Harry Potter stuff you
mentioned.

Thanks again!!

Viv
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Jeanie wrote:

> Well, it all boils down to how you play the game, I think. Adding the
> aspirations makes it more like a game that you have to play to "win"
> than just playing with dolls and doll houses. Winning in this game is
> raising a sim from birth to death by old age and having them go out
> platinum. That's the whole point.

For me "winning" is giving my Sim(s) truly cooking power days,
hopefully for days on end. ie hopping out of bed then teaching the
toddler to walk and talk for full aspiration points all around before
rushing out the door to catch the carpool at the last second on the way
to that final promotion to permaplat.


Again, the modders in the sims
> community are such a bright bunch that there are literally hundreds of
> hacks and mods out there that will tweak your game and allow you to play
> it the way you want to play it. I really do not understand those who
> think it's some kind of moral victory to play the game without hacks,

Less challenge, less satisfaction. Also, the game is buggier than the
Everglades without importing new conflicting permutations. A largish
part of the posts here relate to problems caused by hacks. Thanks, but
no thanks.


> and then sit back and complain about the way the game is coded and how
> it plays.

I never complain. When they act idiotically I just yell then assign
them toilet cleaning for a week or so.

If you don't like it, change it. If there is something that
> particularly irks you about the game, mention it in here or at one of
> the dozens of sims forums at websites around the Internet and someone
> will be kind enough to point you towards a hack or mod that will change
> that and make your game enjoyable to YOU. That's what it's all about,
> isn't it? Very few people hesitate to download new objects or clothing,
> yet some people seem very afraid of downloading hacks.

I'm not afraid. I'm terrified.

Just be aware of
> what hacks you have in your game and keep them separate from the rest of
> your downloads (in a subfolder if you have any of the EPs) so that they
> are easy to remove should you decide to install a new EP.

Bother.

Those hacks
> will be updated very quickly and tweaked to work with the new coding, so
> you can go back where you got it and get it again if need be. There's
> really not a lot of risk involved with 99% of the hacks out there.
>
> That's my viewpoint. Your mileage may vary.
>
> Jeanie
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"kat" <kat DeleteThis @ntalk.org> wrote:

>I don't find it difficult getting a Sim though Uni, if they were born into
>the game - they usually have a heap of skills by the time they become a
>child, read up a few more then, and once they are teens and I know what
>they want to do, I tryto make sure they have all they need for their degree,
>or even for the top of their career, if that;' their lifetime want, then
>they can either rush the course with the College Adjuster, or do the minimum
>needed, and spend time out and about.

I think that's the big difference between TS1 and TS2 - you can't
simply plan short term and muddle about greening whichever bar is
lowest, but have to plan long term and have goals.

D.
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"Davybear" <Davybear DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote:
>Everything form "The Sims" should have been included in "The Sims2."
>The whole thing is a rip-off.

And they'd have sold almost no copies - because the game would have
cost hundreds of dollars per copy.

>It was just easer to copy the ex-packs that come up with new stuff.

Three expansions to date for TS2 and one planned - two unique to TS2,
and two recreating some of the best parts of TS1. Not a bad track
record.

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Jeanie wrote:

> The good news is that having it installed doesn't mean my gameplay has
> to change unless I just want it to. I mean, it didn't change anything
> for non-business owning sims, like Nightlife and University did. (Both
> added wants and Nightlife added the chemistry thing.)

I have decided I'm going to buy all EPs with S2. Otherwise you get into
the frustrating position where you want a hack or some recolored object,
but you must have a certain EP to make it work and you don't. So
rather than worry about what I have and don't have, I decided I'll just
take everything.

Still, the way this game is becoming overly complicated is starting to
annoy me. I'm too busy looking at the enormous control panel of wants,
needs and aspirations to enjoy just playing the game. I feel like I'm
minding the autopilot of a 747 jumbo jet sometimes.

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moochachanyc.RemoveThis@mac.com wrote:

> And I really miss the Simlish language. It was a huge part of the fun
> for me.

What's all this talk about really missing the Simlish language? What
are they speaking now, Pig Latin?

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"kat" <kat.DeleteThis@ntalk.org> wrote in message
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> I don't worry too much about a social life, beyond any friends they bring
> home, and family. There's things like chess they can do with their
friends.
> And pool and dancing might not have points but they can lead to
> scholarships.

Actually, there are points for pool and dancing, you just can't see them in
the game.

Best wishes
maxon
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there were specific phrases used in sims one that aren't used now (dis
graw is fredeshay). i have affection for them. you obviously don't.
it's not the same (in TS2) in as much as italian isn't spanish, i don't
speak either but i know enough to know the difference. are you cranky
or am i?
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