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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:50 pm
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Hi all,
My name is Ming Liu. I am a doctoral student at Michigan State
University, USA. I am conducting a survey research on online gaming as
part of the requirements for my Ph.D. candidacy. I would like to
invite you to participate and your responses would be greatly
appreciated! Specifically, I am studying players' experiences with
online games and how online gaming impacts their lives.
This is an anonymous survey, meaning that you will never be asked for
your name. You will be assured of complete confidentiality and
privacy. You need to be at least 18 years old to take part in this
study.
If you are willing to help me do this study, please use the link below
to start the online survey. The survey will take you only about 10-15
minutes to complete.
Survey Link - http://www.msu.edu/~liuming/onlinegames.html
With kind regards,
Ming Liu
409 CAS Building, MSU
East Lansing, MI, 48824
USA
liuming DeleteThis @msu.edu
To the moderator: This invitation is for academic research instead of
any commercial purpose. Please allow the message to be distributed to
group members who can choose to participate or ignore the message.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:49 am
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<5af6cdfe-b0d6-4f9f-9b87-18a4d9655f7c.DeleteThis@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Ming <liuming223.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
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> My name is Ming Liu. I am a doctoral student at Michigan State
> University, USA. I am conducting a survey research on online gaming as
> part of the requirements for my Ph.D. candidacy. I would like to
> invite you to participate and your responses would be greatly
> appreciated! Specifically, I am studying players' experiences with
> online games and how online gaming impacts their lives.
ugh, I just took your survey and now I'm very depressed.
I need to take a gaming break (I say that a lot). |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:46 am
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tommy <myway RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> ugh, I just took your survey and now I'm very depressed.
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> I need to take a gaming break (I say that a lot).
Another poorly designed survey. The wording is so highly charged that it
will cause:
1) People to deny they do what is described
2) Claim it is true merely to distort the results
If the purpose is to learn statistics, then fine. If it is to really
learn about online gaming players, then it is badly flawed.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:46 am
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"Burt Johnson" <burt DeleteThis @mindstorm-inc.com> wrote in message
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> tommy <myway DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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>> ugh, I just took your survey and now I'm very depressed.
>>
>> I need to take a gaming break (I say that a lot).
>
> Another poorly designed survey. The wording is so highly charged that it
> will cause:
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> 1) People to deny they do what is described
> 2) Claim it is true merely to distort the results
>
> If the purpose is to learn statistics, then fine. If it is to really
> learn about online gaming players, then it is badly flawed.
As I was answering, I thought "Oh, this is going to look like I'm often
alone irl because of online gaming", when my answers to those "social"
questions would have been the same 10-15-20 years ago. But then, maybe
that's why I'm attracted to WoW. I've never enjoyed crowds/parties, and I
much prefer being home to being "out".
Oh, well.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:49 am
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Burt Johnson <burt.RemoveThis@mindstorm-inc.com> wrote:
Just tested and there is no way to skip a page without filling out every
question. With 6 dense pages, this survey also fails on another level --
most people will not spend that much time on a single survey, and those
that do are not representative of the population at large.
Survey creation is a specialized skill. I am surprised either of the
professors for these two surveys (another just as bad showed up
yesterday) allowed these to proceed. If they had been my students, I
would have sent them back to reread the chapter on survey creation or to
strongly defend the inherent biases their surveys included.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:01 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:27 am
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Shammy <none.DeleteThis@nothing.com> wrote:
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> t> ugh, I just took your survey and now I'm very depressed.
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> lol that survey is a bit depressing :p
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Gah! All those "How often do you feel totally alone" type of
questions...
Now I need a spot of online gaming to cheer myself up! 
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:13 pm
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:54:35 -0600, "Xymmie" <xymmie.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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>"Burt Johnson" <burt.RemoveThis@mindstorm-inc.com> wrote in message
>news:1i85u1k.1izoxj71tsn6o2N%burt@mindstorm-inc.com...
>> tommy <myway.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> ugh, I just took your survey and now I'm very depressed.
>>>
>>> I need to take a gaming break (I say that a lot).
>>
>> Another poorly designed survey. The wording is so highly charged that it
>> will cause:
>>
>> 1) People to deny they do what is described
>> 2) Claim it is true merely to distort the results
>>
>> If the purpose is to learn statistics, then fine. If it is to really
>> learn about online gaming players, then it is badly flawed.
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>
>As I was answering, I thought "Oh, this is going to look like I'm often
>alone irl because of online gaming", when my answers to those "social"
>questions would have been the same 10-15-20 years ago. But then, maybe
>that's why I'm attracted to WoW. I've never enjoyed crowds/parties, and I
>much prefer being home to being "out".
>
>Oh, well.
Hehe same, I'm not a social person in RL, being social in WoW etc just
means I have a social life at all rather than none, which was the case
before I got online... still isn't gonna look good though!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:56 pm
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:54:35 -0600, "Xymmie" <xymmie.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>As I was answering, I thought "Oh, this is going to look like I'm often
>alone irl because of online gaming", when my answers to those "social"
>questions would have been the same 10-15-20 years ago. But then, maybe
>that's why I'm attracted to WoW. I've never enjoyed crowds/parties, and I
>much prefer being home to being "out".
Good lord - a kindred spirit!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:56 pm
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"Palindrome" <damon-nomad DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:54:35 -0600, "Xymmie" <xymmie DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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>>As I was answering, I thought "Oh, this is going to look like I'm often
>>alone irl because of online gaming", when my answers to those "social"
>>questions would have been the same 10-15-20 years ago. But then, maybe
>>that's why I'm attracted to WoW. I've never enjoyed crowds/parties, and I
>>much prefer being home to being "out".
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> Good lord - a kindred spirit!
There aren't many of us, are there? Or are there more, but they're afraid
to admit it?? Not that I care. (The only thing that bugs me about being
rather solitary is that there will always be those people who try to "fix"
me. I'm not broken. Well, at least I'm not broken ~that~ way.)
Xymmie
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:58 pm
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:13:40 +0000, Catriona R
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>Hehe same, I'm not a social person in RL, being social in WoW etc just
>means I have a social life at all rather than none, which was the case
>before I got online... still isn't gonna look good though!
Well, I love chatting to people in RL (I do volunteer work and always
enjoy it) but going out doesn't appeal to me as much as staying in -
preferably with a good book or some good company.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:58 pm
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"Palindrome" <damon-nomad.DeleteThis@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:13:40 +0000, Catriona R
> <catrionarNOSPAM.DeleteThis@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
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>>Hehe same, I'm not a social person in RL, being social in WoW etc just
>>means I have a social life at all rather than none, which was the case
>>before I got online... still isn't gonna look good though!
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> Well, I love chatting to people in RL (I do volunteer work and always
> enjoy it) but going out doesn't appeal to me as much as staying in -
> preferably with a good book or some good company.
I work in an insurance agency, so I have ***plenty*** of contact with
others. When I get home I just want [nearly] everyone to leave me alone.
Xymmie
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:47 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:07 am
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Xymmie <xymmie.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good lord - a kindred spirit!
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> There aren't many of us, are there? Or are there more, but they're afraid
> to admit it?? Not that I care. (The only thing that bugs me about being
> rather solitary is that there will always be those people who try to "fix"
> me. I'm not broken. Well, at least I'm not broken ~that~ way.)
I've always been a loner. Several friends have commented over the
decades that being a loner is partly what makes me a good programmer --
I prefer being alone with my computer over going out to parties.
The problem with this survey is the wording, which demonstrates a
pre-ordained conclusion of "if you play WoW, you must be a social
misfit."
All surveys have built in biases, but when they are this blatant, the
survey loses all semblance of viability. It causes most people to lie,
because they don't want too appear to be misfits. Change the wording,
and the repetition back-to-back of insulting questions and the results
would likely be very different.
Basically, this survey is not graduate level work. It might be OK for a
freshman, but I'd flunk any student that presented it to me as an upper
classman, let alone in a gradutate program.
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