damaging a plane

Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?
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Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?
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bob DeleteThis @coolgroups.com wrote:

> Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?

If you mean a mounted machine gun, yes, but not much. If you mean a
rifle or submachine gun, then no.

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Erik Max Francis wrote:
> bob DeleteThis @coolgroups.com wrote:
>
> > Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?
>
> If you mean a mounted machine gun, yes, but not much. If you mean a
> rifle or submachine gun, then no.
>
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This seems to be what I've seen. However, it's weird because you can
shoot a plane to pieces with the machine gun while the plane is on the
ground.
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bob DeleteThis @coolgroups.com wrote in news:1163268827.186917.218050
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> Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?

Yes, but the damage is miniscule. Don't waste your time standing around
pea shooting planes with your rife; you just look like an idiot doing that
and you're alerting pilots to your presence if they haven't figured it out
already. So go out and fight, instead.

The mounted MG's do more damage to planes, but it's still pretty hard to
bring one down. Still, if you're a good shot, you might be able to fend a
pesky plane off... the pilot on the receiving end might feel preserving his
plane's health bar is worth more than taking you out.
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Nonymous wrote:

> Yes, but the damage is miniscule. Don't waste your time standing around
> pea shooting planes with your rife; you just look like an idiot doing that
> and you're alerting pilots to your presence if they haven't figured it out
> already.

Right -- not to mention you're declaring yourself to be an easy target.
When on a bombing run, if I saw enemies on the deck shooting at me
with rifles, I'd go out of my way to make sure the bomb landed on them.
I mean, why not damage the boat _and_ rack up an easy kill or two?

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Erik Max Francis <max RemoveThis @alcyone.com> Spoke about
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> bob RemoveThis @coolgroups.com wrote:
>
>> Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?
>
> If you mean a mounted machine gun, yes, but not much. If you mean a
> rifle or submachine gun, then no.
>

Actually, it does some damage, but not much.
I've shot a plane that was on it's way down, [engine stopped, white heavy
smoke], with the BAR and blew it up AND got the kill credit, [stupid bots
usually ride the plane down].
But against a healthy plane, in BF1942, you have no chance at bringing it
down.
Now in Forgotten Hope, that's a different matter. You can bring down a
plane with the heavy infantry MG like the MG42...

MrToad
aka [AGB]Weisess Fleisch
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MrToad wrote:

> Actually, it does some damage, but not much.
> I've shot a plane that was on it's way down, [engine stopped, white heavy
> smoke], with the BAR and blew it up AND got the kill credit, [stupid bots
> usually ride the plane down].
> But against a healthy plane, in BF1942, you have no chance at bringing it
> down.

Yes, it does a trivial amount of damage. You don't even have enough
clips to even bring down a plane that's already significantly damaged.
It has to essentially already be dead before you do enough damage to
qualify for a kill.

It's essentially never useful to shoot at planes with infantry guns.

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Erik Max Francis wrote:
> MrToad wrote:
>
>> Actually, it does some damage, but not much.
>> I've shot a plane that was on it's way down, [engine stopped, white
>> heavy smoke], with the BAR and blew it up AND got the kill credit,
>> [stupid bots usually ride the plane down].
>> But against a healthy plane, in BF1942, you have no chance at bringing
>> it down.
>
> Yes, it does a trivial amount of damage. You don't even have enough
> clips to even bring down a plane that's already significantly damaged.
> It has to essentially already be dead before you do enough damage to
> qualify for a kill.
>
> It's essentially never useful to shoot at planes with infantry guns.
>

In BF:2 the 50 Cal sniper rifle can kill a chopper pilot, shoot the
bugger right where he sits... Getting him to hover still is another
matter.

Ground fire is a major problem for chopper pilots in BF:2. A Black Hawk
full of troops is a fine target for the ground pounders. It all changed
with one of the patches, can't remember which... A PKM, full rock and
roll will make most Black Hawk pilots think twice about an LZ...
Watching the crew drop is always an impressive sight... (shoot at the
open side doors)

My guess is that the same is also true of the Jets. It's not that they
become invisible to small arms fire once they are in the air, it's just
that they are moving too damn fast...

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On the other hand if you are armed with anti-tank weapon and a heli gets
close to your position a round or two can take him/her out. I have done this
serveral times. Even as a novice [snicker] . I know you asked about planes
but that might be helpfull sometime. BTW the UAV's are rather wimpy and
slow and can be taken out w MG.
Sprink.


"Erik Max Francis" <max RemoveThis @alcyone.com> wrote in message
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> MrToad wrote:
>
>> Actually, it does some damage, but not much.
>> I've shot a plane that was on it's way down, [engine stopped, white heavy
>> smoke], with the BAR and blew it up AND got the kill credit, [stupid bots
>> usually ride the plane down].
>> But against a healthy plane, in BF1942, you have no chance at bringing it
>> down.
>
> Yes, it does a trivial amount of damage. You don't even have enough clips
> to even bring down a plane that's already significantly damaged. It has to
> essentially already be dead before you do enough damage to qualify for a
> kill.
>
> It's essentially never useful to shoot at planes with infantry guns.
>
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>On the other hand if you are armed with anti-tank weapon and a heli gets
>close to your position a round or two can take him/her out. I have done this
>serveral times. Even as a novice [snicker] . I know you asked about planes
>but that might be helpfull sometime. BTW the UAV's are rather wimpy and
>slow and can be taken out w MG.
> Sprink.
>
>
>"Erik Max Francis" <max RemoveThis @alcyone.com> wrote in message
>news:auydnRKIv72g1svYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> MrToad wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, it does some damage, but not much.
>>> I've shot a plane that was on it's way down, [engine stopped, white heavy
>>> smoke], with the BAR and blew it up AND got the kill credit, [stupid bots
>>> usually ride the plane down].
>>> But against a healthy plane, in BF1942, you have no chance at bringing it
>>> down.
>>
>> Yes, it does a trivial amount of damage. You don't even have enough clips
>> to even bring down a plane that's already significantly damaged. It has to
>> essentially already be dead before you do enough damage to qualify for a
>> kill.
>>
>> It's essentially never useful to shoot at planes with infantry guns.


Some pilots are idiots, not talking inf weapons here. Several times
while driving a tank I have shot at a jet with the tanks MG. Pissing
of the pilot enough so that he basically flew right down the main guns
barrel. Waited till he was close and blammo, dead jet and pilot. In BF
42 it's even easier to shoot down planes with tank main guns. I must
have killed at least 20 planes in BF 42 with main gun shots.









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those causing it and kick their ass



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also a tank main gun will take out a heli with one shot if they hover or
traveling slow = you just got to lead them a bit. You know like Duck
hunting. Side shot works good, tail shot fair. shoot headon at your own
risk. ;[ I have hit heli's with anti-tank 2 times and not downed them,
"Completly unrealistic" I might add Other times from directly below 1
shot does it. In real life - Several Russian AND US heli's have been shot
down in Afganastan by RPG's in the past years and lately too. Lucky shots?
mabey so but it seems to work sometimes.

"Alleged Accomplice" <myass@mychair> wrote in message
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> >On the other hand if you are armed with anti-tank weapon and a heli gets
>>close to your position a round or two can take him/her out. I have done
>>this
>>serveral times. Even as a novice [snicker] . I know you asked about
>>planes
>>but that might be helpfull sometime. BTW the UAV's are rather wimpy and
>>slow and can be taken out w MG.
>> Sprink.
>>
>>
>>"Erik Max Francis" <max RemoveThis @alcyone.com> wrote in message
>>news:auydnRKIv72g1svYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> MrToad wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, it does some damage, but not much.
>>>> I've shot a plane that was on it's way down, [engine stopped, white
>>>> heavy
>>>> smoke], with the BAR and blew it up AND got the kill credit, [stupid
>>>> bots
>>>> usually ride the plane down].
>>>> But against a healthy plane, in BF1942, you have no chance at bringing
>>>> it
>>>> down.
>>>
>>> Yes, it does a trivial amount of damage. You don't even have enough
>>> clips
>>> to even bring down a plane that's already significantly damaged. It has
>>> to
>>> essentially already be dead before you do enough damage to qualify for a
>>> kill.
>>>
>>> It's essentially never useful to shoot at planes with infantry guns.
>
>
> Some pilots are idiots, not talking inf weapons here. Several times
> while driving a tank I have shot at a jet with the tanks MG. Pissing
> of the pilot enough so that he basically flew right down the main guns
> barrel. Waited till he was close and blammo, dead jet and pilot. In BF
> 42 it's even easier to shoot down planes with tank main guns. I must
> have killed at least 20 planes in BF 42 with main gun shots.
>
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>
> When the going gets tough the tough find
> those causing it and kick their ass
>
>
>
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> bob DeleteThis @coolgroups.com wrote in news:1163268827.186917.218050
> @m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Can you do any damage to a flying plane using a standard machine gun?
>
> Yes, but the damage is miniscule. Don't waste your time standing around
> pea shooting planes with your rife; you just look like an idiot doing
> that
> and you're alerting pilots to your presence if they haven't figured it out
> already. So go out and fight, instead.
>
> The mounted MG's do more damage to planes, but it's still pretty hard to
> bring one down. Still, if you're a good shot, you might be able to fend a
> pesky plane off... the pilot on the receiving end might feel preserving
> his
> plane's health bar is worth more than taking you out.

It's worth noting, that if you do damage to a vehicle which subsiquently
burns completely (was on fire, boom timer going) you sometimes get the kill
for it.

Just plink each one once if it is easy. (Not when you might attract unwanted
attention.)

Doing this sets the "last damaged by" on the server as you, so sometimes if
the pilot augers in due to whatever, you get the kill. You can shoot down a
plane or helo with a pistol that way.

Also, plinking a helo causes the red damage meter to go off, and may
distract the pilot and make him leave. All worthwhile things to do.

I got kicked and banned from a server once for jumping out of a Blackhawk,
hitting the tail, dying, but damaging the helo. The pilot proceeded to
crash (I knew he sucked, and we were landing in an area with not enough
room, so I jumped out.) and I got 5 kills registered for it. Since most of
the tards nowdays punish for all TKs no matter the situation, out I go!

You cant seriously damage an aircraft with anything other than a PKM or AT
rocket, but it's worth trying in some situations.

(Anybody else think the AT rockets should take down a helo in a single shot?
(maybe not the transports))
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