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Albert Conklin

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:57 pm
Post subject: Maybe changing my video card.
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Would I see a big improvement on Tomb Raider Anniversary with a AGP
512MG DDR X1650 VIDEO CARD versus the GeForce 256 mg 6200 a-le video
card That I have now?
I only have pci and agp slots on my motherboard and no pci-e slots.
Albert

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Albert Conklin" <aconklin RemoveThis @satx.rr.com> wrote in message news:480aa31a$0$5741$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Would I see a big improvement on Tomb Raider Anniversary with a AGP > 512MG DDR X1650 VIDEO CARD versus the GeForce 256 mg 6200 a-le video > card That I have now? > I only have pci and agp slots on my motherboard and no pci-e slots. > Albert Is the ATI X1650 card for an AGP bus? Seems I recall it is PCI-e / Crossfire. It IS a newer card, and the 6200 LE is really a gamer-wannabe card. A 6800 or 6800GT would run TRA fine. McG. >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

John Whitworth

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"McG." <McGrandpaNOT.TakeThisOut@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message news:1vGdndcesM083pbVnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com... > "Albert Conklin" <aconklin.TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote in message > news:480aa31a$0$5741$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> Would I see a big improvement on Tomb Raider Anniversary with a AGP >> 512MG DDR X1650 VIDEO CARD versus the GeForce 256 mg 6200 a-le video card >> That I have now? >> I only have pci and agp slots on my motherboard and no pci-e slots. >> Albert > > > Is the ATI X1650 card for an AGP bus? Seems I recall it is PCI-e / > Crossfire. It IS a newer card, and the 6200 LE is really a gamer-wannabe > card. A 6800 or 6800GT would run TRA fine. > McG. Dabs sell X1650s for AGP. A Dabs Value and a Sapphire retail at £37.24 & £43.82 respectively. Not really too sure about the power of ATI cards, as I'm in the nVidia camp personally. If the X1650 is comparable or better than an nVidia 7600GT, then you'll have no problems (that's what I played TRA with!) JW >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

Albert Conklin

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

John Whitworth wrote: > > "McG." <McGrandpaNOT DeleteThis @NOThotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1vGdndcesM083pbVnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com... >> "Albert Conklin" <aconklin DeleteThis @satx.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:480aa31a$0$5741$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>> Would I see a big improvement on Tomb Raider Anniversary with a AGP >>> 512MG DDR X1650 VIDEO CARD versus the GeForce 256 mg 6200 a-le video >>> card That I have now? >>> I only have pci and agp slots on my motherboard and no pci-e slots. >>> Albert >> >> >> Is the ATI X1650 card for an AGP bus? Seems I recall it is PCI-e / >> Crossfire. It IS a newer card, and the 6200 LE is really a >> gamer-wannabe card. A 6800 or 6800GT would run TRA fine. >> McG. > McG, I believe it is an agp 8x card, but I was told it would work as a agp 4x card. Albert > Dabs sell X1650s for AGP. A Dabs Value and a Sapphire retail at £37.24 & > £43.82 respectively. Not really too sure about the power of ATI cards, > as I'm in the nVidia camp personally. If the X1650 is comparable or > better than an nVidia 7600GT, then you'll have no problems (that's what > I played TRA with!) > > JW JW, Not sure how to compare the two. Is there a site to compare ATI X1650 with an nVidia 7600gt? Albert >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

John Whitworth

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Albert Conklin" <aconklin RemoveThis @satx.rr.com> wrote in message news:480bd796$0$7717$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > JW, > Not sure how to compare the two. Is there a site to compare ATI X1650 > with an nVidia 7600gt? > Albert I know there is something out there, but I cannot seem to find it today. Best I found was a somewhat lacking list on Tom's Hardware, but that did seem to indicate that the 7600GT does have more power than the X1650. Have you tried eBay? You should be able to get a cracking AGP card on there. Or there's this: http://www.eurowide-pc.co.uk/peak-512mb-geforce-7600gt-tvdvi-retail-p-29420.html If you wanted to spend a little more, there's this one: http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=GC-AN78GS256&af=50 I wouldn't go any lower than the 7600GT if you're going for nVidia. So avoid the 7600GS. Not sure where that equates to on the ATI scale. Hopefully someone can assist. And just as I was about to send...I've found this: http://www.reportlabs.com/testbed/version1/grv1/grtop50.php OK...not a graphical representation of relative power, but it should help. You can see that the 7600GT has almost 10% more power than the X1650. Annoyingly, the 7800GS isn't on there, but... http://www.reportlabs.com/testbed/version1/grv1/grtop50.php seems to favour the 7600GT over the 7800GS. OK...and finally...back to ATI...how about the HD2600XT? There's a couple on eBay going for £50 + £10 P&P. But if you look on that list, it's more than a 50% performance increase over the 7600GT!! JW >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"John Whitworth" <sexyjw.RemoveThis@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message news:480d0a34$0$10645$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk... > > And just as I was about to send...I've found this: > > http://www.reportlabs.com/testbed/version1/grv1/grtop50.php OK...not a > graphical representation of relative power, but it should help. You can > see that the 7600GT has almost 10% more power than the X1650. Annoyingly, > the 7800GS isn't on there, but... > http://www.reportlabs.com/testbed/version1/grv1/grtop50.php seems to > favour the 7600GT over the 7800GS. > > OK...and finally...back to ATI...how about the HD2600XT? There's a couple > on eBay going for £50 + £10 P&P. But if you look on that list, it's more > than a 50% performance increase over the 7600GT!! > Just realised that it was the PCI-E section I was looking in for comparison...there are less cards in the AGP section, but I'd assume the chipset gains would be similar between the two interfaces? JW >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

John Whitworth wrote: > > "John Whitworth" <sexyjw DeleteThis @g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message > news:480d0a34$0$10645$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk... >> >> And just as I was about to send...I've found this: >> >> http://www.reportlabs.com/testbed/version1/grv1/grtop50.php OK...not a >> graphical representation of relative power, but it should help. You >> can see that the 7600GT has almost 10% more power than the X1650. >> Annoyingly, the 7800GS isn't on there, but... >> http://www.reportlabs.com/testbed/version1/grv1/grtop50.php seems to >> favour the 7600GT over the 7800GS. >> >> OK...and finally...back to ATI...how about the HD2600XT? There's a >> couple on eBay going for £50 + £10 P&P. But if you look on that list, >> it's more than a 50% performance increase over the 7600GT!! >> > Just realised that it was the PCI-E section I was looking in for > comparison...there are less cards in the AGP section, but I'd assume the > chipset gains would be similar between the two interfaces? > > JW Thanks JW! Hmmm....ebay has one of the hd2600xt and it sounds good. http://cgi.ebay.com/VisionTek-HD2600XT-AGP-512MB-GDDR3-for-HDTV-AVIVO-..._W0QQit Current bid is $37 + $15 shipping and handling. Might consider bidding on that one. Albert >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Albert Conklin" <aconklin.TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote in message news:480d2cef$0$3393$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Thanks JW! > Hmmm....ebay has one of the hd2600xt and it sounds good. > http://cgi.ebay.com/VisionTek-HD2600XT-AGP-512MB-GDDR3-for-HDTV-AVIVO-..._W0QQit > Current bid is $37 + $15 shipping and handling. Might consider bidding on > that one. > Albert Most definitely worth bidding - though if you check "Completed listings", you'll see that most of the AGP ones have recently gone for about $100, as opposed to about $50 for the PCI-E ones. I'm afraid that's an increase you may have to put up with, as AGP is on the wane. I bought an old Socket 939 processor for my dad's PC recently. It cost almost twice the price of an equivalent AM2 processor. And again, when I replaced the RAM in my laptop, it, being DDR RAM, cost almost twice as much as my fiancee's DDR2 RAM! >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

The bid on the x1650 card is up to $76 with shipping and handling. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120250235115&ssPage...e=ADME: It ends in about 3 hours and not sure how high of a bid to put on it. Albert >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"bnorth" <bernardnorth RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:98f7228f-7796-41cf-8629-0db1fcda732f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > >> http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=GC-AN78GS256&af=50 > > if you don't mind my saying JW, when buying from Eclipse its worth > knowing that > for the most part the feedback on numerous boards re product > reliability and customer service is frighteningly negative. I don't mind you saying at all, and it's good to share advice. All I can really say is that I've ordered significant components from Eclipse on two or three occasions. Not had a problem yet. I currently have a pre-order for a Core 2 Quad Q9450 with them. It was a good price, and it was paid for with credit card, so no risk to me. Cheers JW >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Albert Conklin" <aconklin.TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote in message news:480f530a$0$7065$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > The bid on the x1650 card is up to $76 with shipping and handling. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120250235115&ssPage...e=ADME: > It ends in about 3 hours and not sure how high of a bid to put on it. > Albert From what I saw on the completed listings, I'd probably have gone up to about $100. JW >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Maybe changing my video card. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Albert Conklin wrote: > Would I see a big improvement on Tomb Raider Anniversary with a AGP > 512MG DDR X1650 VIDEO CARD versus the GeForce 256 mg 6200 a-le video > card That I have now? > I only have pci and agp slots on my motherboard and no pci-e slots. > Albert Albert I've got a AGP 512mg X1650 in my rig and it plays a dream. I decided to go back to ATI after having a real bad time with an NVIDIA card, and I haven't regretted it for a second TC Posting through OE again. Yay >> Stay informed about: Maybe changing my video card.

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