bunny-hopping in TF2 ?

"Beladi Nasralla" <nasra11a DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194097729.720587.30480@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I hate bunny-hopping in HL2DM. I think in most cases it does not have
> anything to do with skill; it is just a script. The players get the
> unfair advantage.
>
> I heard that the multiplayer game Team Fortress 2 from the Orange Box
> (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ?
> (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...)
>

I don't recall seeing it. I think the gameplay is a bit too frantic for
bunny hopping to give an advantage.
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Schrodinger wrote:
> "Beladi Nasralla" <nasra11a.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1194097729.720587.30480@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hate bunny-hopping in HL2DM. I think in most cases it does not have
>> anything to do with skill; it is just a script. The players get the
>> unfair advantage.
>>
>> I heard that the multiplayer game Team Fortress 2 from the Orange Box
>> (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ?
>> (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...)
>>
>
> I don't recall seeing it. I think the gameplay is a bit too frantic for
> bunny hopping to give an advantage.
>
>
Only soldiers jump around alot, but that's to get a better angle when
shooting at the enemies feet.
--
Les

Chuck Norris' hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.
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On Nov 3, 3:48 pm, Beladi Nasralla <nasra....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I hate bunny-hopping in HL2DM. I think in most cases it does not have
> anything to do with skill; it is just a script. The players get the
> unfair advantage.
>
> I heard that the multiplayer game Team Fortress 2 from the Orange Box
> (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ?
> (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...)

The scouts hop around alot but that is part of the tactics of using
them. they are fast runners and get a double hop but are easy to
kill. So the way you survive and kill with them is double hop around
your target for the height so you can fire at your target while avoid
them. Works good unless another enemy is at a distance then they can
just aim where you will be hopping and get a quick kill.
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:48:03 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no.TakeThisOut@way.com> wrote:

>
>"Beladi Nasralla" <nasra11a.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1194097729.720587.30480@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hate bunny-hopping in HL2DM. I think in most cases it does not have
>> anything to do with skill; it is just a script. The players get the
>> unfair advantage.
>>
>> I heard that the multiplayer game Team Fortress 2 from the Orange Box
>> (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ?
>> (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...)
>>
>
>I don't recall seeing it. I think the gameplay is a bit too frantic for
>bunny hopping to give an advantage.

I think the very nature of it being frantic means bunny hopping is a definite
advantage. I play it a lot and and you most often see Scouts bunny hoping and
the occasional soldier but that's it.
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On Nov 4, 4:07 am, william.dieter... DeleteThis @googlemail.com wrote:
> On Nov 3, 3:48 pm, Beladi Nasralla <nasra... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > I hate bunny-hopping in HL2DM. I think in most cases it does not have
> > anything to do with skill; it is just a script. The players get the
> > unfair advantage.
>
> > I heard that the multiplayer game Team Fortress 2 from the Orange Box
> > (which I have not got yet) is good. Is it prone to similar exploits ?
> > (Othervise, I would reconsider my intention to get Orange Box...)
>
> The scouts hop around alot but that is part of the tactics of using
> them. they are fast runners and get a double hop but are easy to
> kill. So the way you survive and kill with them is double hop around
> your target for the height so you can fire at your target while avoid
> them. Works good unless another enemy is at a distance then they can
> just aim where you will be hopping and get a quick kill.

The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the
art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player. This
has to do with the pecularity of the gaming engine: when the player
turns, he gets a burst of speed. So that the bunny-hopping is the
succession of turnings. The higher speed and the longer jumps is what
gives such a player an unfair advantage.

So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny-
hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the
people who could use it to their advantage.)
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> So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny-
> hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the
> people who could use it to their advantage.)

You occasionally meet a 'bouncy' solider but, to be honest, they're not
really any more difficult to kill.
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:02:44 GMT, Memnoch
<memnoch.RemoveThis@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:

>I think the very nature of it being frantic means bunny hopping is a definite
>advantage. I play it a lot and and you most often see Scouts bunny hoping and
>the occasional soldier but that's it.

For the scout, that's by design though.

Cheers,
Rod.
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Beladi Nasralla wrote:
> The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the
> art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player.

All classes in TF have different movement speeds - the scout is the
'flag runner' class, therefore his natural run speed is twice as fast as
any other class. To counter that, he has low armour & weak weaponry
(Well, the shotgun is fairly powerful, but no match to the
HWG/Soldier/Pyro/etc). The scout also has a unique ability which
allows him to double-jump. This is similar to a bunnyhop in that it
works by jumping in mid-air, although there's no speed increase, it
merely increases the distance which the scout can jump, and is a
deliberate scout ability, rather than an exploit (No other class can do it).

> So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny-
> hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the
> people who could use it to their advantage.)

Not that I've seen. The style of teamplay that TF employs makes such
exploits rather useless anyway - a lone gunner who runs past the
entrance to the enemy base will find himself blown up by grenades, or
burned to a crisp by a pyro, or turned to swiss cheese by a a sentry
gun, or..

--
Ben Cottrell AKA Bench
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Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller wrote:
> You occasionally meet a 'bouncy' solider but, to be honest, they're not
> really any more difficult to kill.

probably easier to kill, since they lose a quarter of their health when
they rocket-jump


--
Ben Cottrell AKA Bench
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Ben Cottrell wrote:
> Beladi Nasralla wrote:
>> The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the
>> art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player.
>
> All classes in TF have different movement speeds - the scout is the
> 'flag runner' class, therefore his natural run speed is twice as fast as
> any other class. To counter that, he has low armour & weak weaponry
> (Well, the shotgun is fairly powerful, but no match to the
> HWG/Soldier/Pyro/etc). The scout also has a unique ability which
> allows him to double-jump. This is similar to a bunnyhop in that it
> works by jumping in mid-air, although there's no speed increase, it
> merely increases the distance which the scout can jump, and is a
> deliberate scout ability, rather than an exploit (No other class can do
> it).
>

The scout can also change direction in mid-air which makes he even more
difficult to hit. Still one of my favourite kills though was when I hit
one in mid-air with the RPG - that made a mess!

>> So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny-
>> hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the
>> people who could use it to their advantage.)
>
> Not that I've seen. The style of teamplay that TF employs makes such
> exploits rather useless anyway - a lone gunner who runs past the
> entrance to the enemy base will find himself blown up by grenades, or
> burned to a crisp by a pyro, or turned to swiss cheese by a a sentry
> gun, or..
>

I've played about 20 hours so far and can't say I've seen this at all.
In fact I haven't heard of any 'gamemanship flaws' that have been
exposed in TF2 as yet. So far it seems to be a well balanced and fun
game and to make it even better it's surprising free of the idiots that
can spoil other online games.
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:20:01 GMT, "Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller"
<thisisf.DeleteThis@lse.co.ck> wrote:

>> So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny-
>> hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the
>> people who could use it to their advantage.)
>
>You occasionally meet a 'bouncy' solider but, to be honest, they're not
>really any more difficult to kill.

No, they just die tired.
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:51:22 GMT, JAB <nochance DeleteThis @nohope.com> wrote:

>Ben Cottrell wrote:
>> Beladi Nasralla wrote:
>>> The nature of bunny-hopping in HL2DM is that the practitioner of the
>>> art can move faster (twice as fast ?) than an ordinary player.
>>
>> All classes in TF have different movement speeds - the scout is the
>> 'flag runner' class, therefore his natural run speed is twice as fast as
>> any other class. To counter that, he has low armour & weak weaponry
>> (Well, the shotgun is fairly powerful, but no match to the
>> HWG/Soldier/Pyro/etc). The scout also has a unique ability which
>> allows him to double-jump. This is similar to a bunnyhop in that it
>> works by jumping in mid-air, although there's no speed increase, it
>> merely increases the distance which the scout can jump, and is a
>> deliberate scout ability, rather than an exploit (No other class can do
>> it).
>>
>
>The scout can also change direction in mid-air which makes he even more
>difficult to hit. Still one of my favourite kills though was when I hit
>one in mid-air with the RPG - that made a mess!

Yeah, I like to doing that. It's like skeet shooting. I try that on the 2Fort
level waiting below the bridge where they try to leap across.
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:35:23 -0700, Beladi Nasralla
<nasra11a.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

>So my question is: is it possible in principle to do such a bunny-
>hopping in TF2 ? (If it's possible, then I am sure there will be the
>people who could use it to their advantage.)

Not in my experience.

Cheers,
Rod.
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