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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:18 pm
Post subject: Re: buggy mage guild quest? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Merlin wrote:
> "mserley" <michaelserley.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> skrev i en
> meddelelse news:11bmusnijmurvde@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Nyctolops wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:47 -0700, mserley
> >> <michaelserley.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thank you again. I got the latest drivers for my
> video card downloaded.
> >>> I'll be trying the new drivers today, and I
> >>>downloaded the free version of moslo.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I actually used slow.com, but I think moslo works
> the same way. I
> >> just added a line to the batch file that starts
> Daggerfall that
> >> started slow.com at the same time. I added
> another line to exit
> >> slow.com when I exited Daggerfall. If you are not
> specific with the
> >> slow-down utility, it will slow down your whole
> system.
> >>
> >> Good luck with your video drivers. This has
> driven some people nuts.
> >> --
> >> Nyctolops
> >
> > Done got the drivers updated.. I had to reinstall
> DF because of that. Or
> > maybe the driver change just corrupted that set of
> saves. I didn't try
> > fixsave, I started a fresh character to see what
> other races are like.
> > And I set moslo so the game should be running at
> 315mh. I've tried it as
> > high as 450 and ranged it down to 135. I still am
> not seeing the mobs or
> > quest items. I did notice, and I'd seen it before
> in other dungeons but
> > not made the connection, that the pile does show up
> on the map view when
> > it's tilted, just like normal treasure. But I've
> been all over the spot
> > with no luck.
> >
> > Are there any other suggestions for me? I don't
> have the expertise,
> > luxury or space to put together an old computer to
> play these on. I also
> > don't have the know-how to repartition my drive, or
> the inclination to
> > go through and reinstall everything, so I can have
> a dos boot drive, as
> > was suggested to me by someone else.
> >
> > If those are the only options, I discheerfully
> accept my fate, that I'll
> > never join the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, and
> quite possibly be
> > unable to complete the main quest. But I do have
> hope that someone on
> > this group is way smarter than me, and can find a
> solution!
> >
> > Godspeed, pass the beernuts!
>
> There is a program that loads - and plays DF for XP
> the same way as Exult does for the ultima VII's
>
> merlin
>
>
>
Does it work in 98 ? Does it work properly in XP (i.e. no movement
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:42 pm
Post subject: Re: buggy mage guild quest? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Gary" <no.DeleteThis@chance.mate> skrev i en meddelelse
news:fsk4s2-5qv.ln1@mercury.tcm.vispa.net.uk...
> Merlin wrote:
>> "mserley" <michaelserley.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> skrev i en
>> meddelelse
news:11bmusnijmurvde@corp.supernews.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Nyctolops wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:47 -0700, mserley
>> >> <michaelserley.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Thank you again. I got the latest drivers for
my
>> video card downloaded.
>> >>> I'll be trying the new drivers today, and I
>> >>>downloaded the free version of moslo.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I actually used slow.com, but I think moslo
works
>> the same way. I
>> >> just added a line to the batch file that
starts
>> Daggerfall that
>> >> started slow.com at the same time. I added
>> another line to exit
>> >> slow.com when I exited Daggerfall. If you
are not
>> specific with the
>> >> slow-down utility, it will slow down your
whole
>> system.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck with your video drivers. This has
>> driven some people nuts.
>> >> --
>> >> Nyctolops
>> >
>> > Done got the drivers updated.. I had to
reinstall
>> DF because of that. Or
>> > maybe the driver change just corrupted that
set of
>> saves. I didn't try
>> > fixsave, I started a fresh character to see
what
>> other races are like.
>> > And I set moslo so the game should be running
at
>> 315mh. I've tried it as
>> > high as 450 and ranged it down to 135. I still
am
>> not seeing the mobs or
>> > quest items. I did notice, and I'd seen it
before
>> in other dungeons but
>> > not made the connection, that the pile does
show up
>> on the map view when
>> > it's tilted, just like normal treasure. But
I've
>> been all over the spot
>> > with no luck.
>> >
>> > Are there any other suggestions for me? I
don't
>> have the expertise,
>> > luxury or space to put together an old
computer to
>> play these on. I also
>> > don't have the know-how to repartition my
drive, or
>> the inclination to
>> > go through and reinstall everything, so I can
have
>> a dos boot drive, as
>> > was suggested to me by someone else.
>> >
>> > If those are the only options, I discheerfully
>> accept my fate, that I'll
>> > never join the thieves guild, dark
brotherhood, and
>> quite possibly be
>> > unable to complete the main quest. But I do
have
>> hope that someone on
>> > this group is way smarter than me, and can
find a
>> solution!
>> >
>> > Godspeed, pass the beernuts!
>>
>> There is a program that loads - and plays DF for
XP
>> the same way as Exult does for the ultima VII's
>>
>> merlin
>>
>>
>>
>
> Does it work in 98 ? Does it work properly in XP
(i.e. no movement
> problems).
It is designed to make the game playable in DF. You
do not need it in 98. The problem with XP is, that it
handles
memory radically different from 98 ( a whole new
concept)
The program, - I think - , emulates a win95/98
environment.
It is not like moslo or the other speed-modifying
utilities.
It simply installs DF from scratch. As far as
movements they
are perhaps slightly faster than you are used to and
it takes
some time to get used to it. Everything else seems
normal
One other thing. The intro only plays when you
starts. If you
have a character already, you will not get the intro
when
you start the next ones
The city and dungeon maps can be a bit tricky too
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:42 pm
Post subject: Re: buggy mage guild quest? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:42:25 +0200, "Merlin" <bech_dokNOSPAM.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> "Gary" <no.DeleteThis@chance.mate> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:fsk4s2-5qv.ln1@mercury.tcm.vispa.net.uk...
> > Merlin wrote:
> >> "mserley" <michaelserley.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> skrev i en
> >> meddelelse
>news:11bmusnijmurvde@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Nyctolops wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:47 -0700, mserley
> >> >> <michaelserley.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Thank you again. I got the latest drivers for
>my
> >> video card downloaded.
> >> >>> I'll be trying the new drivers today, and I
> >> >>>downloaded the free version of moslo.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> I actually used slow.com, but I think moslo
>works
> >> the same way. I
> >> >> just added a line to the batch file that
>starts
> >> Daggerfall that
> >> >> started slow.com at the same time. I added
> >> another line to exit
> >> >> slow.com when I exited Daggerfall. If you
>are not
> >> specific with the
> >> >> slow-down utility, it will slow down your
>whole
> >> system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck with your video drivers. This has
> >> driven some people nuts.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Nyctolops
> >> >
> >> > Done got the drivers updated.. I had to
>reinstall
> >> DF because of that. Or
> >> > maybe the driver change just corrupted that
>set of
> >> saves. I didn't try
> >> > fixsave, I started a fresh character to see
>what
> >> other races are like.
> >> > And I set moslo so the game should be running
>at
> >> 315mh. I've tried it as
> >> > high as 450 and ranged it down to 135. I still
>am
> >> not seeing the mobs or
> >> > quest items. I did notice, and I'd seen it
>before
> >> in other dungeons but
> >> > not made the connection, that the pile does
>show up
> >> on the map view when
> >> > it's tilted, just like normal treasure. But
>I've
> >> been all over the spot
> >> > with no luck.
> >> >
> >> > Are there any other suggestions for me? I
>don't
> >> have the expertise,
> >> > luxury or space to put together an old
>computer to
> >> play these on. I also
> >> > don't have the know-how to repartition my
>drive, or
> >> the inclination to
> >> > go through and reinstall everything, so I can
>have
> >> a dos boot drive, as
> >> > was suggested to me by someone else.
> >> >
> >> > If those are the only options, I discheerfully
> >> accept my fate, that I'll
> >> > never join the thieves guild, dark
>brotherhood, and
> >> quite possibly be
> >> > unable to complete the main quest. But I do
>have
> >> hope that someone on
> >> > this group is way smarter than me, and can
>find a
> >> solution!
> >> >
> >> > Godspeed, pass the beernuts!
> >>
> >> There is a program that loads - and plays DF for
>XP
> >> the same way as Exult does for the ultima VII's
> >>
> >> merlin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Does it work in 98 ? Does it work properly in XP
>(i.e. no movement
> > problems).
>
> It is designed to make the game playable in DF. You
>do not need it in 98. The problem with XP is, that it
>handles
> memory radically different from 98 ( a whole new
>concept)
>
> The program, - I think - , emulates a win95/98
>environment.
> It is not like moslo or the other speed-modifying
>utilities.
>
> It simply installs DF from scratch. As far as
>movements they
> are perhaps slightly faster than you are used to and
>it takes
> some time to get used to it. Everything else seems
>normal
>
> One other thing. The intro only plays when you
>starts. If you
> have a character already, you will not get the intro
>when
> you start the next ones
>
> The city and dungeon maps can be a bit tricky too
>
> merlin
>
>
>
Duh what is the name of the program, just in case I am going to get
another copy of Daggerfall; my CD bit the dust and I have to get a new
one, the back up didn't work.
I have the VDMS installed and am hoping that when I install the new
Daggerfall it kicks in.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:47 am
Post subject: Re: buggy mage guild quest? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Kathy" <kasia DeleteThis @netsync.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:42:25 +0200, "Merlin"
<bech_dokNOSPAM DeleteThis @yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gary" <no DeleteThis @chance.mate> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:fsk4s2-5qv.ln1@mercury.tcm.vispa.net.uk...
>> > Merlin wrote:
>> >> "mserley" <michaelserley DeleteThis @hotmail.com> skrev
i en
>> >> meddelelse
>>news:11bmusnijmurvde@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Nyctolops wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:47 -0700,
mserley
>> >> >> <michaelserley DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Thank you again. I got the latest drivers
for
>>my
>> >> video card downloaded.
>> >> >>> I'll be trying the new drivers today,
and I
>> >> >>>downloaded the free version of moslo.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I actually used slow.com, but I think
moslo
>>works
>> >> the same way. I
>> >> >> just added a line to the batch file that
>>starts
>> >> Daggerfall that
>> >> >> started slow.com at the same time. I
added
>> >> another line to exit
>> >> >> slow.com when I exited Daggerfall. If
you
>>are not
>> >> specific with the
>> >> >> slow-down utility, it will slow down your
>>whole
>> >> system.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good luck with your video drivers. This
has
>> >> driven some people nuts.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Nyctolops
>> >> >
>> >> > Done got the drivers updated.. I had to
>>reinstall
>> >> DF because of that. Or
>> >> > maybe the driver change just corrupted
that
>>set of
>> >> saves. I didn't try
>> >> > fixsave, I started a fresh character to
see
>>what
>> >> other races are like.
>> >> > And I set moslo so the game should be
running
>>at
>> >> 315mh. I've tried it as
>> >> > high as 450 and ranged it down to 135. I
still
>>am
>> >> not seeing the mobs or
>> >> > quest items. I did notice, and I'd seen it
>>before
>> >> in other dungeons but
>> >> > not made the connection, that the pile
does
>>show up
>> >> on the map view when
>> >> > it's tilted, just like normal treasure.
But
>>I've
>> >> been all over the spot
>> >> > with no luck.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there any other suggestions for me? I
>>don't
>> >> have the expertise,
>> >> > luxury or space to put together an old
>>computer to
>> >> play these on. I also
>> >> > don't have the know-how to repartition my
>>drive, or
>> >> the inclination to
>> >> > go through and reinstall everything, so I
can
>>have
>> >> a dos boot drive, as
>> >> > was suggested to me by someone else.
>> >> >
>> >> > If those are the only options, I
discheerfully
>> >> accept my fate, that I'll
>> >> > never join the thieves guild, dark
>>brotherhood, and
>> >> quite possibly be
>> >> > unable to complete the main quest. But I
do
>>have
>> >> hope that someone on
>> >> > this group is way smarter than me, and can
>>find a
>> >> solution!
>> >> >
>> >> > Godspeed, pass the beernuts!
>> >>
>> >> There is a program that loads - and plays DF
for
>>XP
>> >> the same way as Exult does for the ultima
VII's
>> >>
>> >> merlin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Does it work in 98 ? Does it work properly in
XP
>>(i.e. no movement
>> > problems).
>>
>> It is designed to make the game playable in DF.
You
>>do not need it in 98. The problem with XP is, that
it
>>handles
>> memory radically different from 98 ( a whole new
>>concept)
>>
>> The program, - I think - , emulates a win95/98
>>environment.
>> It is not like moslo or the other speed-modifying
>>utilities.
>>
>> It simply installs DF from scratch. As far as
>>movements they
>> are perhaps slightly faster than you are used to
and
>>it takes
>> some time to get used to it. Everything else
seems
>>normal
>>
>> One other thing. The intro only plays when you
>>starts. If you
>> have a character already, you will not get the
intro
>>when
>> you start the next ones
>>
>> The city and dungeon maps can be a bit tricky too
>>
>> merlin
>>
>>
>>
> Duh what is the name of the program, just in case I
am going to get
> another copy of Daggerfall; my CD bit the dust and
I have to get a new
> one, the back up didn't work.
>
> I have the VDMS installed and am hoping that when I
install the new
> Daggerfall it kicks in.
>
> Kathy G.
The program is dagnt5x.exe. You can download it as
dagnt5x.zip here: (41 MB)
files.filefront.com/dagnt5x/;900719;3;/fileinfo.html
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:16 pm
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:08 pm
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Merlin wrote:
> >
> > Does it work in 98 ? Does it work properly in XP
> (i.e. no movement
> > problems).
>
> It is designed to make the game playable in DF. You
> do not need it in 98.
I've run DF in 98, yes it runs (technically) but there were various
problems with movement, particularly climbing and (moving backwards I
think) that made it unplayable.
I found it ran nicely on a P100 with 64M, so now I'm using a 166
(actually an underclocked 400) with 256M, and it's much smoother than
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:08 pm
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:08:19 +0100, Gary <no.RemoveThis@chance.mate> wrote:
>Merlin wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Does it work in 98 ? Does it work properly in XP
>> (i.e. no movement
>> > problems).
>>
>> It is designed to make the game playable in DF. You
>> do not need it in 98.
>
>I've run DF in 98, yes it runs (technically) but there were various
>problems with movement, particularly climbing and (moving backwards I
>think) that made it unplayable.
The problems with climbing and moving backwards (particularly when in
Sneak mode) are not due to Windows 98, but to a too-fast processor.
If you use a slow-down utility with 98, the game will run quite well.
On the other hand, if the processor isn't too much too fast, pressing
the Run key while climbing or backing up will allow you to climb or
back up. The problem is that you increase your Run skill instead of
your Climb skill.
>I found it ran nicely on a P100 with 64M, so now I'm using a 166
>(actually an underclocked 400) with 256M, and it's much smoother than
>the 133 with 16M that I was previously using.
I run Daggerfall on a 133 with 33M and it runs pretty very, but
crashes occasionally.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:48 pm
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Nyctolops wrote:
>
> The problems with climbing and moving backwards (particularly when in
> Sneak mode) are not due to Windows 98, but to a too-fast processor.
> If you use a slow-down utility with 98, the game will run quite well.
I've never been able to get a slowdown program to run without crashing
my machine. I suppose I should have another go sometime. I think I've
discovered that DosBox only crashes when in full screen mode, of course
running DF in a small window is not REALLY what I want to do, so I
suspect that it might be a problem with the graphics driver. But since
I've had the problem with at least three versions of the drivers I don't
have much hope of another version solving things. And at least one
other program that I use regularly started crashing last time I upgraded
them, and I had to use a version in between the one I was using and the
latest.
> On the other hand, if the processor isn't too much too fast, pressing
> the Run key while climbing or backing up will allow you to climb or
> back up. The problem is that you increase your Run skill instead of
> your Climb skill.
>
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:48 pm
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:48:47 +0100, Gary <no.RemoveThis@chance.mate> wrote:
>Nyctolops wrote:
>
>>
>> The problems with climbing and moving backwards (particularly when in
>> Sneak mode) are not due to Windows 98, but to a too-fast processor.
>> If you use a slow-down utility with 98, the game will run quite well.
>
>I've never been able to get a slowdown program to run without crashing
>my machine. I suppose I should have another go sometime. I think I've
>discovered that DosBox only crashes when in full screen mode, of course
>running DF in a small window is not REALLY what I want to do, so I
>suspect that it might be a problem with the graphics driver. But since
>I've had the problem with at least three versions of the drivers I don't
> have much hope of another version solving things. And at least one
>other program that I use regularly started crashing last time I upgraded
>them, and I had to use a version in between the one I was using and the
>latest.
When I played Daggerfall on my Windows 98 machine (and it was 98, not
98SE), I installed Daggerfall while in Windows, then set up a small
batch file that started both slow.com and Daggerfall. I don't know if
that would help you, but it made Daggerfall more stable than it had
been on my old machine. The reason I quit playing Daggerfall on that
machine was that I discovered a small memory problem that made one
task in the final dungeon of the Main Quest almost impossible to
complete. I went back to the old AMD 5x86 and save early, save often.
>> On the other hand, if the processor isn't too much too fast, pressing
>> the Run key while climbing or backing up will allow you to climb or
>> back up. The problem is that you increase your Run skill instead of
>> your Climb skill.
>>
>Does it then USE the run skill to work out how/whether you climb?
I really couldn't tell. All I noticed was the next time I rested
after climbing a high wall, the message I got was "Your Running has
improved", or something like that. Funny, as many times as I have
seen that message over the years, I can't remember the exact wording.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:51 pm
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Nyctolops wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:48:47 +0100, Gary <no.DeleteThis@chance.mate> wrote:
>
>
>>Nyctolops wrote:
>>
>>I've never been able to get a slowdown program to run without crashing
>>my machine.
>>
>
>
> When I played Daggerfall on my Windows 98 machine (and it was 98, not
> 98SE), I installed Daggerfall while in Windows, then set up a small
> batch file that started both slow.com and Daggerfall. I don't know if
> that would help you, but it made Daggerfall more stable than it had
> been on my old machine. The reason I quit playing Daggerfall on that
> machine was that I discovered a small memory problem that made one
> task in the final dungeon of the Main Quest almost impossible to
> complete. I went back to the old AMD 5x86 and save early, save often.
>
>
> Nyctolops
I'll give it another go. Where can I get slow.com (a web search can't
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:51 pm
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:51:48 +0100, Gary <no DeleteThis @chance.mate> wrote:
>I'll give it another go. Where can I get slow.com (a web search can't
>find it).
Sorry about slow.com, but I can't find it again, either. I know it
was on a Daggerfall site, but it may not be available any more.
Anyway, I couldn't find the site again. However, I found links to two
other slow-down utilities here:
http://www.uesp.net/general/gen95.shtml#slowdown and I would think
that they would all work pretty much the same way.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: buggy mage guild quest? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:51:48 +0100, Gary <no DeleteThis @chance.mate> wrote:
> I'll give it another go. Where can I get slow.com (a web search can't
> find it).
I have a copy lying around on my web area. There is no link to it
currently, but you might be able to fetch it by addressing it directly:
http://home.online.no/~itlandm/slow.com
If that doesn't work, I can mail it to you. It is not big.
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"When someone starts bragging about how much debt they have, it's not a
good sign." -G >> Stay informed about: buggy mage guild quest? |
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