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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:11 am
Post subject: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair?
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In today's episode, which featured a Battle Factory battle between
Ash's Charizard and the factory leader's Articuno, Charizard did a
seismic toss, which the Articuno survived, but Charizard didn't. The
Articuno was left standing, but Charizard was left collapsed on the
factory floor.
The official was in the middle of declaring Charizard unable to battle
and Articuno the winner, but the factory leader interrupted him and
told him to hold off until the battle is "over beyond a shadow of a
doubt" (or something like that).
Shortly thereafter, Articuno collapsed. Shortly after that, Charizard
opened its eyes and stood up.
The official declared Articuno unable to battle and Charizard the
winner.
To me, this doesn't seem fair at all. Ash would have lost if the
factory leader hadn't interrupted the official's judgment.
Thoughts?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<spiritofsupergirl.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> To me, this doesn't seem fair at all. Ash would have lost if the
> factory leader hadn't interrupted the official's judgment.
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> Thoughts?
Stop overanalysing Pokemon.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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spiritofsupergirl.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Shortly thereafter, Articuno collapsed. Shortly after that, Charizard
> opened its eyes and stood up.
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> The official declared Articuno unable to battle and Charizard the
> winner.
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> To me, this doesn't seem fair at all. Ash would have lost if the
> factory leader hadn't interrupted the official's judgment.
>
It does strike me a bit contrived, and I think under normal
circumstances the match would've gone to Articuno. However, it was the
Factory Brain's discision to allow Ash extra time to win. No sense
calling foul when your opponent voluntarily surrenders. "Weak," maybe,
but not "foul."
But this brings up an interesting question: How does a referee judge
whether or not a Pokemon is knocked out enough to lose? In boxing and
pro wrestling, the referee starts counting to ten once the fighter hits
the floor and they must get to their feet before he finishes. But on
Pokemon, the referee is expected to make the call on-sight the moment
the dust clears. While this makes for a quicker show, it is rather
lame in terms of fairness.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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spiritofsupergirl.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com Wrote:
>The official was in the middle of
> declaring Charizard unable to battle and
> Articuno the winner, but the factory
> leader interrupted him and told him to
> hold off until the battle is "over beyond a
> shadow of a doubt" (or something like
> that).
>Shortly thereafter, Articuno collapsed.
> Shortly after that, Charizard opened its
> eyes and stood up.
>The official declared Articuno unable to
> battle and Charizard the winner.
>To me, this doesn't seem fair at all. Ash
> would have lost if the factory leader
> hadn't interrupted the official's
> judgment.
>Thoughts?
>Mark Moore
Here's what really happened; The factory leader still remembers how bad
and unreliable official's can be after he watched the last superbowl.
So he wasn't trusting the official's call on such an important battle.
And the official was proven wrong, that he made a snap judgment. >> Stay informed about: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Chet Weaver, Live Via Google" <devolutionnine.DeleteThis@cs.com> wrote in message
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> But this brings up an interesting question: How does a referee judge
> whether or not a Pokemon is knocked out enough to lose?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:55 am
Post subject: Re: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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spiritofsupergirl.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> The official was in the middle of declaring Charizard unable to battle
> and Articuno the winner, but the factory leader interrupted him and
> told him to hold off until the battle is "over beyond a shadow of a
> doubt" (or something like that).
>
> Shortly thereafter, Articuno collapsed. Shortly after that, Charizard
> opened its eyes and stood up.
>
> The official declared Articuno unable to battle and Charizard the
> winner.
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> To me, this doesn't seem fair at all. Ash would have lost if the
> factory leader hadn't interrupted the official's judgment.
Finally got around to seeing the ep. IMO - it wasn't about fairness.
Both sides wanted a spectacular battle more than they cared about
winning or losing.
(Besides, as has been pointed out, it's almost always "fair" to
deliberately give your opponent an advantage: you're not complaining,
and few opponents would complain unless they were trying to lose.) >> Stay informed about: Pokemon battle question - Is this fair? |
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